Rammstein - Deutschland (Official Video) -

Midlife Sperglord

Sperging over console gaming.
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Meh. I still think their original live version of Buch Dich is their greatest moment ever.

I fail to see what is offensive about this new video, as it is clearly not celebrating the Holocaust.
 

Monsieur Guillotine

Arrogant and standoffish
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I wasn't expecting a new video, let alone a new song. It's been 10 years since they last put out an album, so this is a nice surprise.
 

BSV

Vidar Viking Elvi
True & Honest Fan
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I think everyone with some common sense would agree Rammstein did nothing wrong. They used symbolism from all of german history. And for anyone that knows just a tiny bit about the band knows they are as far removed from Nazism as you can get. Most of them started their carrier in East Germany as punk rockers. Which at the time before the fall of the Berlin wall was probably the edgiest thing you could do. In East Germany everyone was forced to have a job. Being a punk rocker was not a valid way to make a living. And the government wouldn't give you permission to hold a konsert or record any albums. If they at all suspected a dissident they would just put you in jail.

It's a bit hard to comprehend how oppressive and challenging it must have been living in the DDR. But knowing where Rammstein is coming from it makes it even more satisfying watching their latest video. They are really smart and know exactly what they can and cannot do. This is well calculated and really deliberate. I will just say Hail rammstein. This is so fucking awesome. 11/10
 

ThatGayElfFromDragonAge

Meh
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acknowledging history is anti-semetic. depicting any minority group in any way whatsoever that doesn't portray them has bastions of perfect humanity is racist. or some other "ist."
 

Alpacasinopa

fluffy
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Some sperging why people think it's offensive (at least here in Germany):

When the teaser trailers for this song were released, people were offended because Rammstein "advertised" with the Holocaust.
To quote Josef Schuster, President of the Central Council of Jews in Germany:
„Die Instrumentalisierung und Verharmlosung des Holocaust, die sich in den Bildern zeigen, sind unverantwortlich.“
The instrumentalization and belittlement of the Holocaust, which are shown [in the video], is irresponsible
Source: RP-Online.de

As a German, after listening to the song (and lyrics) and watching the video, it should be clear that they Rammstein are not nazis. I mean the KZ-prisoners even shoot the Nazis in the face, which couldn't be a greater "Fuck you" to Nazism.
The video shows important historical moments of German history and no one can lie that the time period from 1933 until the end of WW2 isn't also important.
In the video, they show German history, starting with the Germanicus-Campaigns, the golden 20s and the hyperinflation 1923, the crusades, the GDR, monks (which probably symbolize Luther and the reformation of the church), the RAF, the Wilhelminian era (WW 1), the revolt of the 17th June 1953, burning witches, burning books, and of course Nazis and the holocaust.
The German media is torn - some think, Rammstein are idiots and nazis, others say "If you assume Rammstein are anti-semites, then you did not understand their new video".

Tl;dr: German media is torn and offended because of German history.
 

Cheeseman

Secret Agent Randy Beans
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sad that a pretty metal take on some really disturbing history gets swept away because people chimp out at mentions of the holocaust. the video was done so well

The instrumentalization and belittlement of the Holocaust, which are shown [in the video], is irresponsible
there was no belittlement in those scenes though. out of the entire video, those were the most tame moments really. germania was giving birth to wolves and chomping on a dismembered head and entrails were flying around a dinner table at one point.
 

R.A.E.L.

Sugarbaby
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The video is neat, and the music itself is great as always. Not at all surprised people find it offensive. But really, this is Rammstein we're talking about. Just look at their live performances of Bück Dich and Pussy. The guys aren't afraid to take risks and I commend them for it.
 
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Some sperging why people think it's offensive (at least here in Germany):

When the teaser trailers for this song were released, people were offended because Rammstein "advertised" with the Holocaust.
To quote Josef Schuster, President of the Central Council of Jews in Germany:


Source: RP-Online.de

As a German, after listening to the song (and lyrics) and watching the video, it should be clear that they Rammstein are not nazis. I mean the KZ-prisoners even shoot the Nazis in the face, which couldn't be a greater "Fuck you" to Nazism.
The video shows important historical moments of German history and no one can lie that the time period from 1933 until the end of WW2 isn't also important.
In the video, they show German history, starting with the Germanicus-Campaigns, the golden 20s and the hyperinflation 1923, the crusades, the GDR, monks (which probably symbolize Luther and the reformation of the church), the RAF, the Wilhelminian era (WW 1), the revolt of the 17th June 1953, burning witches, burning books, and of course Nazis and the holocaust.
The German media is torn - some think, Rammstein are idiots and nazis, others say "If you assume Rammstein are anti-semites, then you did not understand their new video".

Tl;dr: German media is torn and offended because of German history.
Don't forget the Red Army Faction reference with them taking Germany hostage in '73 down to the '70s clothing and weapons
 

ADN_VIII

Bismarck is on the horizon
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I just enjoy watching Jews kvetch about people trying to bring awareness to historical facts.

It's almost like they just want to exploit the sympathy but not deal in the messy truths of history.

Other than that, I'm blown away by the phenomenal contrast of the intense visual feed and almost spartan lyrics. That shown difference between Germany's storied history and the simple way the band puts the conflict for Germans to be both proud and ashamed of their history is masterful.

Plus Germania is an excellent foil and the scene where she's blind in one eye while going through the camp was absolute top tier.
 

Coelacanth

Your local shitposting living fossil.
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Honestly like the song. Nice to know the group is still around after all this time!

I honestly don't care about the content as long as the song is good to listen to. This is no exception to that rule for me.
 

дядя Боря

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there was no belittlement in those scenes though. out of the entire video, those were the most tame moments really. germania was giving birth to wolves and chomping on a dismembered head and entrails were flying around a dinner table at one point.
Monks eating Germania represents the turmoil prior to reformation when the church was tearing the country apart, feasting on it's resources without actual need. You can see those comrades are not hungry, they eat just because. Germany has launched the reformation movement. +1 for that country.

Germania is not giving birth to wolves, they are Leonbergers. Those dogs were used in war, set out to blow up mines, after WWII only 5 puppies survived, today there are thousands of them. This represents rebirth, renewing.

That video, you can spin it any way you like. Actually having Germania being black is probably racist as shit, because Till says that he wants to love her but he can't, she is not perfect, she has potential to be good, but she is not. If Germania was a smoking hot aryan girl, the meaning would be totally different, but whatever. This is going to be controversial no matter what. Attention whores will scream with indignation.
 

ADN_VIII

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Actually having Germania being black is probably racist as shit, because Till says that he wants to love her but he can't, she is not perfect, she has potential to be good, but she is not.
It's worth keeping in mind that he's not referring to the model who plays Germania, but the representation of the national spirit of Germany that Germania represents. I would argue that the lyrics imply that Germany's checkered past and historical failings are why he can't love Germania.
 
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It's worth keeping in mind that he's not referring to the model who plays Germania, but the representation of the national spirit of Germany that Germania represents. I would argue that the lyrics imply that Germany's checkered past and historical failings are why he can't love Germania.
That Germania reference is just strange. that name was just used for a short amount of time.
Hermann (Arminius from the battle against varus) and Siegfried ( the guy wagner loved so much) are more common as german spirit animal.
If they want to use a female, Loreley would be the first pick.
 
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