Random Movie/TV trivia and shit -

[Watcher]

As a reference to our gaming trivia thread. Let's have a movie/tv trivia thread.

Let's get an obvious one out of the way. In Back to the Future, at the start of the movie Marty goes to "Twin Pines mall" to meet with Doc Brown.

When he travels back to 1955, he drives over one of the pine trees the farmer there is growing. And when he returns back to 1985, the mall's name is "Lone Pine Mall"

I just discovered another

In Peter Jackson's King Kong, the titular character climbs the Empire State Building at the end

The CGI version of the building took approximately 18 months to make in a computer.

The actual real life Empire State Building was made in only 14 months

 

[cypocraphy]

David Lynch wanted "Song To The Siren" by This Mortal Coil in "Blue Velvet" but it turned out to be too expensive...so he and Angelo Badalamenti wrote "Mysteries Of Love" for Julee Cruise to sing as a replacement song.

 

[SpessCaptain]

In Milo and Otis, a child's live action film, a lot of the animals were subugated to what would now be considered animal abuse. A lot of puppies and kittens died during filming and there is a claim that over 20 kittens died during filming.

Some consider the nature of the death of the kittens to be natural, but several were assumed killed on set but no claim has been proven.

 

[Overcast]

In Milo and Otis, a child's live action film, a lot of the animals were subugated to what would now be considered animal abuse. A lot of puppies and kittens died during filming and there is a claim that over 20 kittens died during filming.

Some consider the nature of the death of the kittens to be natural, but several were assumed killed on set but no claim has been proven.

Welp.

There goes my childhood.

 

[ZehnBoat]

Welp.

There goes my childhood.

i knew of that a long time ago
i can't stand the movie now
i feel bad for enjoying it

 

[Watcher]

So this is an interesting theory.

You know how in Terminator it doesn't really make that much sense how they keep sending Terminators back to kill Sarah/John Conner over and over again when they could just send one back to when Sarah was an infant.

Well, apparently according to James Cameron. He was aware of this plot hole and came up with an explanation. Because Skynet caused the extinction of the human race largely due to an accident, and because it was programmed to defend itself while also serving humanity. It sent the Terminator back to create John Conner and prevent Judgement day. And that the entire future war has been manipulated by Skynet to erase it's own existence.

That... is far out.

 

[Bogs]

So this is an interesting theory.

You know how in Terminator it doesn't really make that much sense how they keep sending Terminators back to kill Sarah/John Conner over and over again when they could just send one back to when Sarah was an infant.

Well, apparently according to James Cameron. He was aware of this plot hole and came up with an explanation. Because Skynet caused the extinction of the human race largely due to an accident, and because it was programmed to defend itself while also serving humanity. It sent the Terminator back to create John Conner and prevent Judgement day. And that the entire future war has been manipulated by Skynet to erase it's own existence.

That... is far out.

If they wanted to "help" Sarah and John, why did they send back Terminators? Kyle Reese went back in time to impregnate Sarah Connor, and John Conner sent the friendly T-800 back. Skynet didn't need to send back anything. This just sounds like George Lucas trying to explain how Han Solo could make the kessell run in 12 parsecs.

 

[Watcher]

If they wanted to "help" Sarah and John, why did they send back Terminators? Kyle Reese went back in time to impregnate Sarah Connor, and John Conner sent the friendly T-800 back. Skynet didn't need to send back anything. This just sounds like George Lucas trying to explain how Han Solo could make the kessell run in 12 parsecs.

Here's the thing, John Conner and the Resistance wouldn't exist without the Terminators being sent back. Oddly enough neither would Skynet.

The T-800 being sent back in Terminator 1 is what causes Kyle Reese to go back in time. Which has him impregnate Sarah Conner and create John Conner. Then the T-1000 is sent back in Terminator 2, which prompts them to sent the other T-800 back. And (ignoring Terminator 3 here) doing this causes Judgement day to never happen since it's revealed Skynet was a thing entirely because of the first t-800's technology being salvaged, which is destroyed. It's also implied or outright stated somewhere that the humans eventually win the War against the machines. So in both timelines Skynet either ceases to exist or is destroyed largely due to it's own actions.

Bare in mind that this theory was clearly only a James Cameron thing, and it requires you to ignore all of the movies made after he jumped ship. Since every other Terminator film completely ignores this theory.

 

[Steamboat_Bill]

In Milo and Otis, a child's live action film, a lot of the animals were subugated to what would now be considered animal abuse. A lot of puppies and kittens died during filming and there is a claim that over 20 kittens died during filming.

Some consider the nature of the death of the kittens to be natural, but several were assumed killed on set but no claim has been proven.

You think that's bad? Try Heaven's Gate, the movie that indirectly gave us "No animals were harmed in the making of this film."

The ASPCA decried the film's crew for apparently killing several horses, cows and chickens during its production, most of which was denied by the director, Michael Cimino. Everybody, however, admitted that one horse got accidentally blown to bits.

The film's production itself was such a massive clusterfuck that it's become industry legend. It bombed so hard that United Artists, who distributed the film, went down with it.

 

[AnOminous]

You think that's bad? Try Heaven's Gate, the movie that indirectly gave us "No animals were harmed in the making of this film."

In Oldboy, the lead character eats a live octopus. The actor actually ate seven, because there were seven takes.

 

[Roger Rabbit]

In Who Framed Roger Rabbit, a film mostly known for its cartoon cameos, only 10 were not owned by Disney.

 

[Watcher]

In Who Framed Roger Rabbit, a film mostly known for its cartoon cameos, only 10 were not owned by Disney.

This is largely understandable given it was released through Disney's Touchstone Pictures. It seems it was largely Spielberg who got the other characters.

Roger Rabbit was finally green-lit when the budget decreased to $30 million, which at the time still made it the most expensive animated film ever green-lit.[6] Walt Disney Studios chairman Jeffrey Katzenberg argued that the hybrid of live action and animation would "save" Disney's animation department. Spielberg's contract included an extensive amount of creative control and a large percentage of the box office profits. Disney kept all merchandising rights.[6] Spielberg convinced Warner Bros., Fleischer Studios, King Features Syndicate, Felix the Cat Productions, Turner Entertainment, and Universal Pictures/Walter Lantz Productions to "lend" their characters to appear in the film with (in some cases) stipulations on how those characters were portrayed; for example, Disney's Donald Duck and Warner's Daffy Duck appear as equally-talented dueling pianists, and Mickey Mouse and Bugs Bunny also share a scene. Apart from this agreement, Warner Bros. and the various other companies were not involved in the production of Roger Rabbit. However, the producers did not have time to acquire the rights to use Popeye, Tom and Jerry, Little Lulu, Casper the Friendly Ghost or the Terrytoons for appearances from their respective owners (King Features, Turner, Western Publishing, Harvey Comics and Viacom).

Speaking about Terminator again. Terminator Salvation had an... interesting development.

In the original script John Connor had about three minutes of screen time in the entire film; most of Connor's moments were played offscreen. In the original script John Connor was the secretive leader of the Resistance. He lived on the HQ sub, and almost no one saw his face, so as to keep him hidden from the robots. Connor made radio addresses and existed as a legend for the fighting men and women of the Resistance, but in the original script Connor didn't show up onscreen until the last minutes of the movie.

This changed when Christian Bale signed on. The studio wanted him to play the film's protagonist Marcus Wright but he insisted on John Conner. Which caused them to streeeeeetch out the John Conner role to fill out the rest of the film.

The original ending was changed as well

Bale's desire to star as John Connor was probably the most fatal blow to the film; it completely distorted the shape of the story as it existed. But the other fatal blow came from the internet. When the original ending of the script leaked - John Connor is killed by a Terminator and has his skin grafted onto Marcus Wright, who takes up the shadowy leader's place as the leader of the Resistance - many people went crazy. On the surface it seemed like a major slap in the face of the franchise, and doubly so on paper: John Connor, the guy who the entire franchise is ostensibly about, shows up for two and a half pages, gets killed and has his face transplanted onto a robot (in the original script it's actually just the face that gets slapped on Marcus).

The film was also supposed to be the first in a trilogy but due to a lawsuit and it's lackluster box office nothing came of it. The second in the trilogy would have released in 2011 had the film done well.

 

[AnOminous]

This changed when Christian Bale signed on. The studio wanted him to play the film's protagonist Marcus Wright but he insisted on John Conner. Which caused them to streeeeeetch out the John Conner role to fill out the rest of the film.

They should have skipped having Bale. Great actor, but that's the ultimate in backseat driving.

 

[Bogs]

In Oldboy, the lead character eats a live octopus. The actor actually ate seven, because there were seven takes.

But that's different because live octopus is an actual dish in Korea (Not getting into a morality/ethic debate). The actor also had to pray after each take since he was a strict Buddhist.

 

[Jewelsmakerguy]

Remember that SMB movie? The one that MovieBob likes? You know those "Goombas" in it right?

Well it turns out that all of them had fully animatronic heads, even the background ones could do everything the hero heads could. Mind, that isn't saying a whole lot, but that does show the effects artists did put in some effort into their stuff, as opposed to the directors.

 

[Roger Rabbit]

The Real Ghostbusters, Animaniacs and Scooby Doo have a thing in common.

Slimer, Fred and Ralph the Guard were all voiced by Frank Welker.

 

[Watcher]

The Real Ghostbusters, Animaniacs and Scooby Doo have a thing in common.

Slimer, Fred and Ralph the Guard were all voiced by Frank Welker.

He was also in Gargoyles

 

[Steamboat_Bill]

The Real Ghostbusters, Animaniacs and Scooby Doo have a thing in common.

Slimer, Fred and Ralph the Guard were all voiced by Frank Welker.

And Frank Welker has been Fred since 1969, when the show began. Ain't that amazing?

 

[Watcher]

In the opening scene to Raiders of the Lost Ark where Indiana Jones outruns the Boulder. Harrison Ford actually outran the boulder during the first take and it looked unconvincing. During the second take he accidentally stumbled which was seen as really convincing and was left in the final movie.

The instructions for the construction of the Ark are found in Exodus 25:10. The clothing that Belloq wears while acting as a high priest during the ceremony at the end is found beginning in Exodus chapter 28.

The sound of the Ark of the Covenant's lid being opened is actually the sound designer lifting a toilet cistern's lid.

The opening scene of the film where Indiana Jones steals an idol from an ancient temple that is rigged with booby traps is actually based on a Donald Duck comic that both George Lucas and Stephen Spielberg read when they were 15 and 12 years old respectively.

Stephen Spielberg intended Indiana Jones to essentially be a B-Movie

The Well of Souls sequence was filmed on the same set of the Overlook Hotel in the Shining which released the previous year.

Indiana Jones's iconic wide brimmed fedora was made in such a way so that it would disguise his face when stunt doubles were being used.

When the movie was being filmed in Tunisia, almost all of the cast and crew got very ill. Stephen Spielberg managed to avoid this by exclusively eating cans of Spaghetti-O's he brought with him.

 

[Jewelsmakerguy]

I have another one pretaning to Raiders:
The exploding head at the end netted the movie an R rating. To work it down to a hard PG rating, the effects artists put flames over it.

That in a way helped a bit, since the head looked like this: