Careercow Randy Pitchford / DuvalMagic - Gearbox's magical fuck-up of a CEO, lost a USB drive full of porn.

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Damn, Randy. You've already reached China by losing that USB full of questionable content at Medieval Times, but now you're tunneling back to America by crying about getting caught in that lie about microtransactions and the accusations of abuse from a former VO actor on Borderlands.

A smarter man would have stayed off Twitter, kept their mouth shut, and not continued to lie his ass off, but then you wouldn't be the Randy Bitchford we all know and loathe.
Randy should've acted like James Gunn but instead, he acted like most of these LoLcows and kept talking when he should've


 

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So to explain, Eddings voiced Claptrap for free because he was VP of Marketing at Gearbox at the time and figured Claptrap would just be a fun side gig. He's since left Gearbox and wanted a fair wage for it, and was offered something like twice the rate given to the VAs who are listed under the "numerous" listings in the credits- roughly 1600 dollars a day.
 

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So to explain, Eddings voiced Claptrap for free because he was VP of Marketing at Gearbox at the time and figured Claptrap would just be a fun side gig. He's since left Gearbox and wanted a fair wage for it, and was offered something like twice the rate given to the VAs who are listed under the "numerous" listings in the credits- roughly 1600 dollars a day.
So... He got greedy?
 

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So... He got greedy?
No, he didn't get greedy.

Firstly, he said that Gearbox still owes him cash which is a huge red flag in itself, but that's part of what he was asking for.

Secondly, being paid "2x rate" means he would be paid basically twice as much as an extra - nothing even close to inline to what would be paid to someone who would largely be considered to be the "main voice of the franchise that's a decade old" and it also doesn't even approach how much Gearbox owes him for bringing that character to life, for free, for nearly a decade. Even if he isn't a "voice actor" by trade, considering how famous he is because of it he would likely be one of the highest paid/best VAs in the country.

His "rate" if you weren't trying to insultingly low ball him would be more in line with David Hayter (Solid Snake, except MGS5) or Christopher Judge (Kratos, God of War). This also is allegedly not the first VA they've tried to low ball (Troy Baker won't be revoicing his character from Tales of the Borderlands who is now a major character) for likely the same reason.

It would be like if you asked Kit Harrington (main character in "Game of Thrones") to come work on your TV show and instead of paying him $500,000 an episode (what he makes on GoT) you offered him twice what an extra makes, or $320 dollars a day. When he tells you to fuck off, you remind him that he used to do it for free (even though he doesn't now). When he tells you to fuck off again, you go on twitter and call him greedy.

EDIT - You call him greedy after you're accused of stealing $12,000,000 out of the company till for personal use, after stealing money from SEGA to produce your own game. All while making CEO dollars and then you make your game an Epic Game Store exclusive and (ALLEGEDLY) taking a bonus under the table for it. Randy Pitchford calling someone else greedy is just the absolute best.
 
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No, he didn't get greedy.

Firstly, he said that Gearbox still owes him cash which is a huge red flag in itself, but that's part of what he was asking for.

Secondly, being paid "2x rate" means he would be paid basically twice as much as an extra - nothing even close to inline to what would be paid to someone who would largely be considered to be the "main voice of the franchise that's a decade old" and it also doesn't even approach how much Gearbox owes him for bringing that character to life, for free, for nearly a decade. Even if he isn't a "voice actor" by trade, considering how famous he is because of it he would likely be one of the highest paid/best VAs in the country.

His "rate" if you weren't trying to insultingly low ball him would be more in line with David Hayter (Solid Snake, except MGS5) or Christopher Judge (Kratos, God of War). This also is allegedly not the first VA they've tried to low ball (Troy Baker won't be revoicing his character from Tales of the Borderlands who is now a major character) for likely the same reason.

It would be like if you asked Kit Harrington (main character in "Game of Thrones") to come work on your TV show and instead of paying him $500,000 an episode (what he makes on GoT) you offered him twice what an extra makes, or $320 dollars a day. When he tells you to fuck off, you remind him that he used to do it for free (even though he doesn't now). When he tells you to fuck off again, you go on twitter and call him greedy.

EDIT - You call him greedy after you're accused of stealing $12,000,000 out of the company till for personal use, after stealing money from SEGA to produce your own game. All while making CEO dollars and then you make your game an Epic Game Store exclusive and (ALLEGEDLY) taking a bonus under the table for it. Randy Pitchford calling someone else greedy is just the absolute best.
Thanks m8, I really had no clue about all this. I'm just learning to love randy & he's never been more to me than the guy who finally killed Duke.
There's an amazing undercurrent of degeneracy in certain parts of the dev scene, it's like these guys think they're rock stars or something.
 
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Randy Pitchford clearly, undisputably, has the biggest balls ever seen on a lolcow.

You can't fire someone for firing an HR complaint and you almost certainly should NEVER directly fire someone and instead have your HR department do it. You need to make sure as CEO when you terminate someone (as a company, not directly) despite being in an "at will" state that you don't open yourselves up for a wrongful termination lawsuit by doing shit like this.

You need to have them document infractions, warnings, correction plans - otherwise it looks like you have a long term employee in great standing in the company getting punched in the face by the CEO on a Sunday, them HR reporting on Monday, and then having that same CEO terminate the employee on Tuesday. It's a really bad look to have and if there's any truth to it I sure hope Randy has some saved communication with the Board or the HR Department that makes it look less like the colossal fuck up it already looks like.
 

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Randy Pitchford clearly, undisputably, has the biggest balls ever seen on a lolcow.
To be honest, I'd say it's less he has balls but rather he's a fucking idiot who can't keep his mouth shut. He should realize that being a CEO doesn't make you immune to claims like this. Did he think HR would delete the record after David got fired? (Assuming there is one)
 

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To be honest, I'd say it's less he has balls but rather he's a fucking idiot who can't keep his mouth shut. He should realize that being a CEO doesn't make you immune to claims like this. Did he think HR would delete the record after David got fired? (Assuming there is one)
I agree, being a CEO actually makes you more susceptible to these claims (as you have power over the person you had an altercation with) but Randy Pitchford has just been living like a magician/rockstar his whole life apparently. He's been stealing money for years, allegedly (from SEGA, from VAs, from the bonus fund, from EGS), fist fighting people on his executive team, just walks around his company with a USB drive full of jailbait porn, does magic shows at his house, etc.

The man is fucking crazy and he gives very few fucks about it.

It's fucking nuts that an old marketing VP literally said on twitter "I used to work there until the CEO punched me in the face and fired me. I was sick of his magic tricks anyway".
 
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I agree, being a CEO actually makes you more susceptible to these claims (as you have power over the person you had an altercation with) but Randy Pitchford has just been living like a magician/rockstar his whole life apparently. He's been stealing money for years, allegedly (from SEGA, from VAs, from the bonus fund, from EGS), fist fighting people on his executive team, just walks around his company with a USB drive full of jailbait porn, does magic shows at his house, etc.
You gotta give it to Randy, he's living the fucking dream and I kinda can't help but grow a kernal of respect for how unabashed he is about himself. It doesn't excuse anything he's done, but at least Randy is memorable, moreso than a lot of folks this site covers.
 

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No, he didn't get greedy.

Firstly, he said that Gearbox still owes him cash which is a huge red flag in itself, but that's part of what he was asking for.

Secondly, being paid "2x rate" means he would be paid basically twice as much as an extra - nothing even close to inline to what would be paid to someone who would largely be considered to be the "main voice of the franchise that's a decade old" and it also doesn't even approach how much Gearbox owes him for bringing that character to life, for free, for nearly a decade. Even if he isn't a "voice actor" by trade, considering how famous he is because of it he would likely be one of the highest paid/best VAs in the country.

His "rate" if you weren't trying to insultingly low ball him would be more in line with David Hayter (Solid Snake, except MGS5) or Christopher Judge (Kratos, God of War). This also is allegedly not the first VA they've tried to low ball (Troy Baker won't be revoicing his character from Tales of the Borderlands who is now a major character) for likely the same reason.

It would be like if you asked Kit Harrington (main character in "Game of Thrones") to come work on your TV show and instead of paying him $500,000 an episode (what he makes on GoT) you offered him twice what an extra makes, or $320 dollars a day. When he tells you to fuck off, you remind him that he used to do it for free (even though he doesn't now). When he tells you to fuck off again, you go on twitter and call him greedy.

EDIT - You call him greedy after you're accused of stealing $12,000,000 out of the company till for personal use, after stealing money from SEGA to produce your own game. All while making CEO dollars and then you make your game an Epic Game Store exclusive and (ALLEGEDLY) taking a bonus under the table for it. Randy Pitchford calling someone else greedy is just the absolute best.
To be fair, Claptrap as a voice is 90% effects put on afterwards, he says his lines and they put it through filters and programs to make it sound like Claptrap. He doesn't provide the "main voice of the franchise", he provides the base voice that they put tons of filters over to get the wacky comic relief character's voice. Anyone could provide that voice, and sure people might be able to tell it's a different voice under all those filters, but in the end it's a robotic comic relief character where they just throw in a line about the character's voice modulator taking damage in the big timeskip between Borderlands 2 and 3.

I'm not saying Eddings is "wrong" here, but he's wasn't a voice actor to begin with, he started his "voice work" with Borderlands without actually being on the voicework payroll because he was already an employee of the company being paid for his work. If he doesn't want to take the job they can't force him, but Claptrap was never a character that was really worth spending big bucks to get someone to voice, outside of paying the original person just to avoid controversy.
 

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To be fair, Claptrap as a voice is 90% effects put on afterwards, he says his lines and they put it through filters and programs to make it sound like Claptrap. He doesn't provide the "main voice of the franchise", he provides the base voice that they put tons of filters over to get the wacky comic relief character's voice. Anyone could provide that voice, and sure people might be able to tell it's a different voice under all those filters, but in the end it's a robotic comic relief character where they just throw in a line about the character's voice modulator taking damage in the big timeskip between Borderlands 2 and 3.

I'm not saying Eddings is "wrong" here, but he's wasn't a voice actor to begin with, he started his "voice work" with Borderlands without actually being on the voicework payroll because he was already an employee of the company being paid for his work. If he doesn't want to take the job they can't force him, but Claptrap was never a character that was really worth spending big bucks to get someone to voice, outside of paying the original person just to avoid controversy.
I wasn't suggesting he was irreplaceable, but his character is essential to the series. We also don't know the extent of influence that Eddings had on the character as he was likely around from its inception (as opposed to having a character designed already) and in true Gearbox (TM) fashion, the character was alleged to not be designed with the series in mind. Even if he isn't a "voice actor" by trade, I would consider him one considering he's had a huge role for nearly a decade.

You can replace Eddings, but you could also replace literally anyone. You could have Keifer Sutherland voice Snake in MGS instead of David Hayter, You can replace Troy Baker with someone else for Rhys, and it doesn't really matter who voices Master Chief between games, and so on but it's really just a small thing that's worth getting right that fans appreciate.

I don't even like Borderlands that much but I think cutting corners on VAs is a shit move; doubly so when you've got Epic Games bascially footing the bill. It triply doesn't look good on a game that looks bland and mediocre as shit and instead of looking like it was in development for 5+ years it looks like a UI mod for Borderlands 2.
 

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Eddings voice and performance was pretty unique probably because he isn't a regular voice actor. So in a way it's pretty iconic. And you can really tell someone else is doing the voice, even if you don't have an ear for that sort of thing.
 

Mr Snek

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Just the fact that they're replacing Eddings is going to effect how fans see the new game, regardless of how it effects the game objectively. Fans don't like to see the thing they like being changed drastically, and they'll definitely see one of the main VAs being changed as drastic. Not to mention how bad it makes Gearbox look.
 

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To be honest, I'd say it's less he has balls but rather he's a fucking idiot who can't keep his mouth shut. He should realize that being a CEO doesn't make you immune to claims like this. Did he think HR would delete the record after David got fired? (Assuming there is one)
The line between Balls of Steel and Mental Reprobate is thin and easily distorted. Randy does what he wants, when he wants, because he wants, and doesn't fucking apologize for it. It really is admirable the confidence he shows while doing shit that would give most pause and refuses to shut his mouth. One of the first things legal council try to tell you is "Don't open your mouth and make yourself look bad." And that's where Randy crosses the line from balls the size of grapefruits to mentally incompetent; there's a charge of stealing $12,000,000 dollars from your company. The money that should've gone to employees for their work, not money the company had in the bank. There's also plenty of other allegations against you Randy. As much as I enjoy laughing at him, I wouldn't be mad if he learned how to fucking chill, at least until the trial is over.
 

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It also comes across as petty. Because they didn't want to pay him a VA rate they hired a VA.
That makes sense to me though. You don't hire a handy friend who can reset pipes through youtube tutorials to redo your plumbing for the same price you could hire professional plumbers. They didn't give him the premium VA rate because he wasn't a premium VA. You can say it's quirky or a good thing that they went with nonstandard actors for some characters, but in the end hiring people has more to do with industry standards than what people feel like they are worth, the huge names make more than all the little names combined and that's just how it is.

It's not like they were on good terms anyway, I think it's fair to say that there's a sort of conflict of interest involved because Randy assaulted him, in the end they probably wouldn't have any of this controversy if he wasn't fired by Randy.
 

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