Rationalizing the Anti-Transgender Movement -

ClownBrew

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I'm not even liberal and yet I'm actually okay with the more stable ones who just go through with it and move forward in life. I have no problem with considering them as the opposite sex of the genetic one. Those tend to be the older school ones. I've seen them around both online and irl. Usually you wouldn't even know unless they told you after getting to know them for years and years...or if they are just out but not loudmouthed about it.

Generation NB is what I can't handle. Infuriates me to no end when I hear absolutely every single person routinely referred to as "they" lest we set off some confused anorexic middle class college darling who thinks that a baggy hoodie and a plaid shirt makes her a "demiboi" and that real men breastfeed and all the urinals ought to be stocked with free tampons.

And it doesn't just piss me off-- it creeps me out on free speech grounds. People are being witchhunted for this shit.

Infuriates me far more when the confused middle class overeducated darling is actually the mother of a small child who must suffer a coerced trooning at her hands. It's basically the new Munchausen imo. Remember in Stephen King's "It" when Eddie's mother talked him into pretend asthma? Major energies of that here only with even worse effects.
 
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Its not that I hate transgendered people. This is a pretty complicated question, so I'll take it one step at a time.

Gender Identity Disorder is a real thing. It causes people distress in their lives, suicidal ideation, self-harm and suicide. It isn't fake or made up. The problem is that GID is very complex and is rooted in very deep psychological issues. It isn't simply, "Sex change and cured!".

It requires therapy just like anxiety and depression, and to investigate what help would the patient need. To get a sex change used to be an incredibly laborious process, for a reason: It was permanent. The medical community didn't want to essentially put psychiatric patients through a grueling surgical procedure unless it was deemed absolutely necessary. Then you'd get referred to highly specialized surgeons where this is basically done (John's Hopkins used to be at the forefront of transgender research).

It was like this for a very long time. Maybe until about ten years ago. John's Hopkins did close down their surgical center because they eventually discovered that SRS is not a treatment for GID and you're essentially putting patients through a permeant medical procedure that will not help them. A lot of trans people got around this by going overseas to doctors who would do whatever.

Really, the transgender movement started once gay marriage was legalized. Activists are always looking for 'What's next?' because if they don't, they're out of a job. So they decided transsexuals would be their next target. Like everything it started off slow and then rapidly sped up to "If you're a tomboy, you're trans. If you dress in women's clothes, you are trans." It escalated to the point where there was no longer any psychological investigation or treatment, it was just assumed. Even if these delusions originated from other trauma or mental illnesses and not from Gender Identity Disorder.

That's the real problem I have with the modern transgender movement. It is unquestionable, no investigation is allowed. If someone says that they're the opposite gender and wants to go on all of these drugs and get all these surgical procedures, it must be taken as gospel. You cannot doubt them. This is absolutely fucking insane. Kids are going trans for attention, since kids always want attention and they're being taken seriously. Not even their parents are allowed to question them. Professional organizations have been totally cowed and can't question it. You are not allowed to investigate the reasoning behind it, which I find insane.

You're taking these dangerous, life-altering drugs, getting surgery which is permeant and there is no going back from, and risking worsening an already mentally unwell person with a life of permanent medical visits and drugs.

The wellness of the person isn't even considered, because god forbid it might hurt their feelings. Gender fluidity is part of this absolute retarded bullshit and has gone so far beyond you can switch genders daily and no one will bat an eye.

The movement itself is pretty much corrupted by the medical industry. You have therapists, psychologists, big pharma and hospitals all fucking loving this shit, because they're getting patients for life. Taking puberty blockers and hormones are going to cause all sorts of issues, and the surgical horrors that follow, massive fucking cash. The problem its not just the activists getting rich, its the medical industry. There's no longer a singular specialized clinic, surgeons who want in on the action and are little more than butchers get in on the action. Pharmaceutical companies drool and develop even bigger and better hormones.

The person isn't considered. The person is a commodity. To the trans community, its another one of them. To the medical community, its a lifetime of big checks. To activists, its a dopamine release for a virtue signal. For parents, its a sign they're on the right side of history and so very progressive.

That individual? It doesn't matter. It doesn't matter if its done for depression. It doesn't matter if its done for some desperate bid for attention. It doesn't matter if its done due to bullying, confusion over one's sexuality (not GID) or even part of sexual abuse that makes them hate their gender. The individual's reasons don't matter and in fact we're constantly told not to question because that's transphobic.

So the person gets lost in all of this. Their welfare, their feelings. And by the time they sort it out and realized they made a mistake, its too late. And then when they go looking for help, they find none. Because there's nothing in the opposite direction. There's no support to change back. There's no money in it, there's no virtue signaling in it, there's no 'being progressive' and it goes against an activist narrative of being gender fluid. So they're essentially alone and forced into this persona they don't want to be and get to be miserable for the rest of their lives.

That's where my hatred from the movement comes from. The lack of care for this individual who will be changed for the rest of their life, not acknowledging how big a change it is, how much this will impact them and how going on all of these drugs is a monstrous nightmare as if they had no side-effects. The main trans community is pathological in its disregard for the individual and it not allowing for any choices to be questioned.

They don't care they're being used as living checks by the medical and pharmaceutical industry. They don't care that SRS at best does nothing for your mental state and at worst makes you completely suicidal. They have to be justified and constantly coddled, because of their own instability and doubts.

The transgendered community projects so much its laughable. They've built it themselves basically. There's too many transgendered people compared to historical norms. Trans people have always been a small minority, and no one questioned why there were so many now? Because their individual problems are no longer being taken care of. They're shoved into this group for monetary, ideological or prideful reasons. And then when the realization comes that it was something else, its too late.

And they have nowhere else to turn, so they stick with the only community that will now accept them. They project their own inner hatred and bitterness at everyone and everything else. That's why they focus so much on gender, on pop culture and don't just live their lives. Because they never had GID in the first place, and their bitterness and other underlying problems have fully consumed them.
 

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But living as though having a penis is a violation of your true and honest real self is gnostic and creepy--not to mention bizarre performative art to compensate for your disordered (or non-existent) interior life.

Has it ever occured that you body is fine and your inner self is what is messed up?
Jesus Christ, this. Imagine if violent schizophrenics were treated by indulging in their illness. The whole thing is backwards, purely to defend the fantasies of the legitimately mentally ill.
 

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Its not that I hate transgendered people. This is a pretty complicated question, so I'll take it one step at a time.

Gender Identity Disorder is a real thing. It causes people distress in their lives, suicidal ideation, self-harm and suicide. It isn't fake or made up. The problem is that GID is very complex and is rooted in very deep psychological issues. It isn't simply, "Sex change and cured!".

It requires therapy just like anxiety and depression, and to investigate what help would the patient need. To get a sex change used to be an incredibly laborious process, for a reason: It was permanent. The medical community didn't want to essentially put psychiatric patients through a grueling surgical procedure unless it was deemed absolutely necessary. Then you'd get referred to highly specialized surgeons where this is basically done (John's Hopkins used to be at the forefront of transgender research).

It was like this for a very long time. Maybe until about ten years ago. John's Hopkins did close down their surgical center because they eventually discovered that SRS is not a treatment for GID and you're essentially putting patients through a permeant medical procedure that will not help them. A lot of trans people got around this by going overseas to doctors who would do whatever.

Really, the transgender movement started once gay marriage was legalized. Activists are always looking for 'What's next?' because if they don't, they're out of a job. So they decided transsexuals would be their next target. Like everything it started off slow and then rapidly sped up to "If you're a tomboy, you're trans. If you dress in women's clothes, you are trans." It escalated to the point where there was no longer any psychological investigation or treatment, it was just assumed. Even if these delusions originated from other trauma or mental illnesses and not from Gender Identity Disorder.

That's the real problem I have with the modern transgender movement. It is unquestionable, no investigation is allowed. If someone says that they're the opposite gender and wants to go on all of these drugs and get all these surgical procedures, it must be taken as gospel. You cannot doubt them. This is absolutely fucking insane. Kids are going trans for attention, since kids always want attention and they're being taken seriously. Not even their parents are allowed to question them. Professional organizations have been totally cowed and can't question it. You are not allowed to investigate the reasoning behind it, which I find insane.

You're taking these dangerous, life-altering drugs, getting surgery which is permeant and there is no going back from, and risking worsening an already mentally unwell person with a life of permanent medical visits and drugs.

The wellness of the person isn't even considered, because god forbid it might hurt their feelings. Gender fluidity is part of this absolute retarded bullshit and has gone so far beyond you can switch genders daily and no one will bat an eye.

The movement itself is pretty much corrupted by the medical industry. You have therapists, psychologists, big pharma and hospitals all fucking loving this shit, because they're getting patients for life. Taking puberty blockers and hormones are going to cause all sorts of issues, and the surgical horrors that follow, massive fucking cash. The problem its not just the activists getting rich, its the medical industry. There's no longer a singular specialized clinic, surgeons who want in on the action and are little more than butchers get in on the action. Pharmaceutical companies drool and develop even bigger and better hormones.

The person isn't considered. The person is a commodity. To the trans community, its another one of them. To the medical community, its a lifetime of big checks. To activists, its a dopamine release for a virtue signal. For parents, its a sign they're on the right side of history and so very progressive.

That individual? It doesn't matter. It doesn't matter if its done for depression. It doesn't matter if its done for some desperate bid for attention. It doesn't matter if its done due to bullying, confusion over one's sexuality (not GID) or even part of sexual abuse that makes them hate their gender. The individual's reasons don't matter and in fact we're constantly told not to question because that's transphobic.

So the person gets lost in all of this. Their welfare, their feelings. And by the time they sort it out and realized they made a mistake, its too late. And then when they go looking for help, they find none. Because there's nothing in the opposite direction. There's no support to change back. There's no money in it, there's no virtue signaling in it, there's no 'being progressive' and it goes against an activist narrative of being gender fluid. So they're essentially alone and forced into this persona they don't want to be and get to be miserable for the rest of their lives.

That's where my hatred from the movement comes from. The lack of care for this individual who will be changed for the rest of their life, not acknowledging how big a change it is, how much this will impact them and how going on all of these drugs is a monstrous nightmare as if they had no side-effects. The main trans community is pathological in its disregard for the individual and it not allowing for any choices to be questioned.

They don't care they're being used as living checks by the medical and pharmaceutical industry. They don't care that SRS at best does nothing for your mental state and at worst makes you completely suicidal. They have to be justified and constantly coddled, because of their own instability and doubts.

The transgendered community projects so much its laughable. They've built it themselves basically. There's too many transgendered people compared to historical norms. Trans people have always been a small minority, and no one questioned why there were so many now? Because their individual problems are no longer being taken care of. They're shoved into this group for monetary, ideological or prideful reasons. And then when the realization comes that it was something else, its too late.

And they have nowhere else to turn, so they stick with the only community that will now accept them. They project their own inner hatred and bitterness at everyone and everything else. That's why they focus so much on gender, on pop culture and don't just live their lives. Because they never had GID in the first place, and their bitterness and other underlying problems have fully consumed them.
I was coming to throw in my two cents but this is one of the best explanations of transgenderism I've seen. I've had several friends that became trans at some point and this describes their whole shtick very well. I'd give this a winner sticker, but this subforum doesn't have one.

I'd also mention the pedophilia that arises from transgenderism since you've got troon adults grooming kids into trooning out, continuing the cycle of troonery. Transgenderism and grooming are undeniably bedfellows.
 

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Its not that I hate transgendered people. This is a pretty complicated question, so I'll take it one step at a time.

Gender Identity Disorder is a real thing. It causes people distress in their lives, suicidal ideation, self-harm and suicide. It isn't fake or made up. The problem is that GID is very complex and is rooted in very deep psychological issues. It isn't simply, "Sex change and cured!".

It requires therapy just like anxiety and depression, and to investigate what help would the patient need. To get a sex change used to be an incredibly laborious process, for a reason: It was permanent. The medical community didn't want to essentially put psychiatric patients through a grueling surgical procedure unless it was deemed absolutely necessary. Then you'd get referred to highly specialized surgeons where this is basically done (John's Hopkins used to be at the forefront of transgender research).

It was like this for a very long time. Maybe until about ten years ago. John's Hopkins did close down their surgical center because they eventually discovered that SRS is not a treatment for GID and you're essentially putting patients through a permeant medical procedure that will not help them. A lot of trans people got around this by going overseas to doctors who would do whatever.

Really, the transgender movement started once gay marriage was legalized. Activists are always looking for 'What's next?' because if they don't, they're out of a job. So they decided transsexuals would be their next target. Like everything it started off slow and then rapidly sped up to "If you're a tomboy, you're trans. If you dress in women's clothes, you are trans." It escalated to the point where there was no longer any psychological investigation or treatment, it was just assumed. Even if these delusions originated from other trauma or mental illnesses and not from Gender Identity Disorder.

That's the real problem I have with the modern transgender movement. It is unquestionable, no investigation is allowed. If someone says that they're the opposite gender and wants to go on all of these drugs and get all these surgical procedures, it must be taken as gospel. You cannot doubt them. This is absolutely fucking insane. Kids are going trans for attention, since kids always want attention and they're being taken seriously. Not even their parents are allowed to question them. Professional organizations have been totally cowed and can't question it. You are not allowed to investigate the reasoning behind it, which I find insane.

You're taking these dangerous, life-altering drugs, getting surgery which is permeant and there is no going back from, and risking worsening an already mentally unwell person with a life of permanent medical visits and drugs.

The wellness of the person isn't even considered, because god forbid it might hurt their feelings. Gender fluidity is part of this absolute retarded bullshit and has gone so far beyond you can switch genders daily and no one will bat an eye.

The movement itself is pretty much corrupted by the medical industry. You have therapists, psychologists, big pharma and hospitals all fucking loving this shit, because they're getting patients for life. Taking puberty blockers and hormones are going to cause all sorts of issues, and the surgical horrors that follow, massive fucking cash. The problem its not just the activists getting rich, its the medical industry. There's no longer a singular specialized clinic, surgeons who want in on the action and are little more than butchers get in on the action. Pharmaceutical companies drool and develop even bigger and better hormones.

The person isn't considered. The person is a commodity. To the trans community, its another one of them. To the medical community, its a lifetime of big checks. To activists, its a dopamine release for a virtue signal. For parents, its a sign they're on the right side of history and so very progressive.

That individual? It doesn't matter. It doesn't matter if its done for depression. It doesn't matter if its done for some desperate bid for attention. It doesn't matter if its done due to bullying, confusion over one's sexuality (not GID) or even part of sexual abuse that makes them hate their gender. The individual's reasons don't matter and in fact we're constantly told not to question because that's transphobic.

So the person gets lost in all of this. Their welfare, their feelings. And by the time they sort it out and realized they made a mistake, its too late. And then when they go looking for help, they find none. Because there's nothing in the opposite direction. There's no support to change back. There's no money in it, there's no virtue signaling in it, there's no 'being progressive' and it goes against an activist narrative of being gender fluid. So they're essentially alone and forced into this persona they don't want to be and get to be miserable for the rest of their lives.

That's where my hatred from the movement comes from. The lack of care for this individual who will be changed for the rest of their life, not acknowledging how big a change it is, how much this will impact them and how going on all of these drugs is a monstrous nightmare as if they had no side-effects. The main trans community is pathological in its disregard for the individual and it not allowing for any choices to be questioned.

They don't care they're being used as living checks by the medical and pharmaceutical industry. They don't care that SRS at best does nothing for your mental state and at worst makes you completely suicidal. They have to be justified and constantly coddled, because of their own instability and doubts.

The transgendered community projects so much its laughable. They've built it themselves basically. There's too many transgendered people compared to historical norms. Trans people have always been a small minority, and no one questioned why there were so many now? Because their individual problems are no longer being taken care of. They're shoved into this group for monetary, ideological or prideful reasons. And then when the realization comes that it was something else, its too late.

And they have nowhere else to turn, so they stick with the only community that will now accept them. They project their own inner hatred and bitterness at everyone and everything else. That's why they focus so much on gender, on pop culture and don't just live their lives. Because they never had GID in the first place, and their bitterness and other underlying problems have fully consumed them.
That's a lot of words to say 'I'm a sexually insecure right-wing incel'
 

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Hate is a strong word.

I hate zoophiles, pedophiles, corrupt politicians, rapists, narcissists, child abusers, etc.

I don't hate trans people just for being trans. I resent that there are certain people in power driving the trans cult forward as the new priest/eunuch class of the Left, because they are interrupting my own life with incessant gaslighting, invasion of female spaces, oppression of women via fetishization etc. But to me most trans people are unwitting puppets who bought into a grand lie that taking some hormone skittles will help them cope with the nightmare world we live in.

I pity most trans more than anything. Theirs is a wretched existence. I can't even bring myself to joke about the 41% because I've lost many friends to this cult and the last thing I want is their deaths.

I don't hate trans people, just like I don't hate the average Jehovah's Witness. I just hate the ideology they've fallen prey to.
 
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That's a lot of words to say 'I'm a sexually insecure right-wing incel'
Sexually insecure right-wing incels is exactly how I'd describe the trannies.

Having a fetish for lesbians and not being able to cope with being straight is as sexually insecure as it gets, preserving gender roles and basing an identity off of that is as conservative as it gets, telling others if they don't have sex with you then you are a bigot is as rapey and beta incel as it gets.
 
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Sexually insecure right-wing incels is exactly how I'd describe the trannies.

Having a fetish for lesbians and not being able to cope with being straight is as sexually insecure as it gets, preserving gender roles and basing an identity off of that is a conservative as it gets, telling others if they don't have sex with you then you are a bigot is as rapey and beta incel as it gets.
Based, but it just makes me wonder why they're not more popular here.
 

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It is not hate, but I keep my distance because they have become the most closed and aggressive group when they receive the least criticism, LGB handle insults a little better, but not T.
 
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