Wouldn't these being public domain make them explicitly not a franchise anymore?
And really, is it so hard to ignore the influx of shovelware movies that come with it?
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Sister services, email, and search will continue to be negatively effected by the attacks. I made a thread to talk about it, if you're into networking.
And really, is it so hard to ignore the influx of shovelware movies that come with it?
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I think his point is that the oversaturation itself, and the low quality, is what's causing them to be ignorable and forgettable in the first place versus when Oz was a juggernaut.
But trying to conflate "not giant to the public like Star Wars" and "always, unequivocally bad" is a lazy at best, dishonest at worst argument. There are still, to this day, great adaptations of books like Little Women (the 2019 version is an underrated gem btw), Pride and Prejudice, and the Dickens lineup being made. Just because they don't explode into the mainstream and take over the public conversation every time doesn't change that, and the fact that they have been in the public domain for ages doesn't diminish their quality at all.
His go-to example of Oz is also just a bad one because, for most people, the 1939 movie, Wicked to an extent, and Return to Oz for hipsters, are Oz. There's no need for another version, and those works, 1939 especially, have been cultural touchstones for so long in the same way movies like Casablanca or The Godfather are, that they don't need to take over pop culture to be known and appreciated.
And again, the presence of shovelware garbage isn't going to change or diminish that. No matter how many bad Christmas Carol adaptations there are, George C. Scott and Alastair Sim are always going to be there as beloved works that speak for themselves.
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Those are some gold-class mental gymnastics on Razor's part when it came to Bill Cosby's confession somehow not counting because reasons.
Love how Danny-boy acts like The Wiz or Wicked were somehow not also dogshit.
He also skipped a whole bunch of other pre-public domain Oz-themed garbage, like those wacky-ass cartoons, including that weird Russian one about the gender-bent princess.
Does he not realize no living family member has any god damn creative control over anything Disney related right?
Figure I may as well dump another selection of Eve's Instagram posts (listed chronologically):
The Oz example is really dumb and I don't understand why he keeps using it.
1) Both Return to Oz and Wicked were released after the Oz copyrights expired, in 1985 and 1995 respectively. Disney paid a fee to MGM to use the Ruby Slippers, but that had nothing to do with the L. Frank Baum copyrights.
2) Tin Man did get mixed reviews, but a fair amount of people like it, and most of the criticism was aimed at it's dark tone, which despite being the point of the series a lot of people didn't feel meshed well with the Oz setting. Maybe Razor didn't like it, but I hardly think it can be used as an example of why copyright upheld the integrity of the Oz franchise or whatever.
3) I'm not convinced there actually is a notable difference between pre-public domain Oz and public domain Oz. Ignoring the fact that Wicked and Return to Oz aren't pre-public domain Oz like Razor seems to think they are, that era was not limited to just the 1939 MGM production and The Wiz. There was a whole laundry list of L. Frank Baum estate-approved garbage that most people today have completely forgotten about. Whether it be the Reilly & Britton novels, the silent films, foreign adaptations, or direct-to-TV snoozathons, I honestly think you'd have an easier time arguing the quality of public domain Oz has been more consistent, not that either era has a particularly high batting average.
4) I honestly don't think Razor has ever read the original Oz novels. Is he under the impression that they were works of high literature? I mean, there's nothing really wrong with them, but they were little more than cheap fantasy novels slapped together roughly at the speed L. Frank Baum could type, and then printed up and sold to barely-literate school children. I don't really think you can honestly argue that the Oz pastiches are that much worse than Rinkitink in Oz, or Glinda of Oz, or The Woggle Bug Book, or whatever, unless you're some kind of connoisseur of books aimed at 7-year-olds.
5) Yes, of course when literally anyone can make a book or movie or whatever, a lot of people will make shit. Just because a lot of bad authors write awful mystery or romance novels doesn't mean we need to copyright those ideas and only allow approved creators to create such content. Maybe we should just "let the market decide" which works are the best in their respective categories (which Razor fails to realize we've already done with Oz pastiches like Return to Oz and Wicked).
I could never really tell if Razor was being dumb or dishonest whenever he brings up Oz in defense of eternal copyright, but in writing out this spergy post I now think it's both.
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Copyright law is a necessary evil in regards to innovation. Without it there is simply no economic benefit to research since your work would be swept right under you by a billion chinks.
Media wise it should protect the little guy, rather than mega corporations who literally own now nearly every cultural icon.
Razor's original tweet is retarded.
Media wise it should protect the little guy, rather than mega corporations who literally own now nearly every cultural icon.
Razor's original tweet is retarded.
There is a massive difference between "should" and "does".
I'm not really anti-copyright, but whatever the original intent of copyright was, that is no longer how it functions. Look at something like the patent system. While certainly flawed, it's nowhere near the trainwreck that the copyright system is. The massive flaws inherent within the copyright system, coupled with the inability of so many pro-copyright advocates to acknowledge these flaws, has led me and countless others to simply not respect the concept anymore.
Danny Boy has a bizarre fixation on copyright laws. At least once a week I'll notice a long, spergy Twitter thread from him about defending and extending existing IP laws.
This got me thinking. Now that he's in bed with Vox Day vis-a-vis having his book published with Castalia House and his exclusive content at Unauthorized TV, how does Daniel feel about that man's frequent use of the "awful Public Domain" to profit?
This example should particularly irk classic comic nerd Dan. Day has a ripoff of Webtoons called Arktoons, and they recently started showcasing Public Domain Plastic Man (Archive). Day's most egregious use of the Public Domain I've seen so far is his crowdfunded reprinting of The Junior Classics (Archive) wherein he raised well over half a million dollars to reprint Aesop's Fables and such.
I have no problem with someone making money honestly. I DO take issue with Vox Day's long history of bullshit and scams. There is also the consistent rumor that Day uses his crowdfunded projects to launder his sovereign citizen dad's stolen tax monies. I am also curious as to how far Daniel's moral consistency extends to his business partners/friends with benefits.
This got me thinking. Now that he's in bed with Vox Day vis-a-vis having his book published with Castalia House and his exclusive content at Unauthorized TV, how does Daniel feel about that man's frequent use of the "awful Public Domain" to profit?
This example should particularly irk classic comic nerd Dan. Day has a ripoff of Webtoons called Arktoons, and they recently started showcasing Public Domain Plastic Man (Archive). Day's most egregious use of the Public Domain I've seen so far is his crowdfunded reprinting of The Junior Classics (Archive) wherein he raised well over half a million dollars to reprint Aesop's Fables and such.
I have no problem with someone making money honestly. I DO take issue with Vox Day's long history of bullshit and scams. There is also the consistent rumor that Day uses his crowdfunded projects to launder his sovereign citizen dad's stolen tax monies. I am also curious as to how far Daniel's moral consistency extends to his business partners/friends with benefits.
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My guess? Probably will bury his head in the sand.
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I can’t watch atm. Is it they’re all GOMMYNIST or is it Money Talks?
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Both.....I think.
Berrakh
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There’s an argument to be made there but he didn’t make it I’d imagine.
Edit: video is fine really. Nothing mindblowing. Maybe someone who disagrees with his politics more than I do could find better faults.
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Honestly as someone who's still subscribed to Razorfist, it's fucking annoying seeing him not upload anything video game related. No real reviews or talking about what's been going on in the industry besides streams. He fell for the trap that is American politics and it's really depressing. The last video was 3 months ago for cyberpunk 2077. The guy could be a contrarian at times but he was also willing to talk shit about shady business practices and other nonsense that companies were doing. He made valid criticisms that very few people were really willing to talk about or mention like shitty story clichés or annoying game design tropes that are mindlessly included. Now it's just boring ass streams and political videos I haven't given serious attention to in months. Also he needs to stay the fuck away with twitter, that site seems to inherently melt people's brains. I swear that godforsaken platform is home to every negative stereotype on the internet rolled into one.
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Honestly not surprised that he went political with almost all of his videos. It seems like if one venture fails, he tosses it into the trash, and making nothing but political videos seems to be his most "Successful" venture yet.
Super Kami Guru
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I'm just tired of his reeing of some stupidly mundane political BS. Even if I despise Kamala and Biden I just don't really care. Hell he was doing pretty well with doing gaming shit, but I guess you gotta follow that dollar.
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It's sad. I enjoyed watching his reviews. I think he has a really good taste in games, and he's not a bad streamer. He could have had a good career. But holy fuck this dude went off the deep end in 2016. His current event rants are incredibly childish, I just can't even bare to listen to them anymore.
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It's what happened to Jim Sterling (besides trooning). Fell into a cycle of hitting negative reinforcement over and over until it burned his audience out.
For reference Moviebob had the presence of mind to know this was a bad cycle to begin with his Really That Good series.
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