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After a thorough trouncing this past election cycle, democrats are struggling to understand where they went wrong, find new leadership and a new direction to take their party. It's likely voters will return to the party reflectively should Republican leadership fail to deliver on some overreaching campaign promises, but biding time until the rivals fail is a bit lazy. What are some realistic strategies for liberals to gain back a foothold? What ideas need to be let go, and which picked up? Is the momentum from Bernie Sanders great enough to carry the party in a new direction?
 

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Disclaimer: I'm gonna be talking about the left in general more than just US liberals.

One big thing is forgetting their 'roots'. The left should be championing the working classes (regardless of whether they're white, black, latino, male, female). They haven't even bothered to fake an interest in that recently. They thought they had the whole thing in the bag and they got arrogant. The whole identity politics thing kinda ties into that: if you're out to find the most oppressed minority, leaving everyone else who might have legit grievances with the way the country runs by the wayside, isn't going to get you votes.

Anyway, what I think the left can do now is:
  • clear plans on how to create and ensure jobs that pay a living wage
  • health care and a 'welfare' system that picks up people who are truly in need
  • sensible taxation (i.e. giving tax cuts to companies that employ local labor and are environmentally friendly)
  • a reasonable approach when it comes to immigration (who is in need of refuge? how many people can you actually provide with proper care? how much can the local population take?)
I neglected rights to an education because I think that's not under threat right now.
 

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1.) Don't field the most repellent candidate you have.
2.) Don't get caught with your thumb on the scale during the primary.
3.) Pull the analytics cock out of your mouth and go talk to real people on the ground more. (ie: stop telling people what you think they want to hear, and actually go find out what they want to hear.)
 

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The problem they have is they ran so far from the right (and it's fringe sides) to instead of having left leaning thoughts jumped as hard as they could as a party, well as far as their bankers friends let them.

The entire image needs to change, and they have a long history in the US, with tons of "name drop" power to use. Someone like JimWebb who is quite centerist over all and mostly liked by everyone (aside people in gov) is the face they need. Pull a card and go back to JFK, what can we do as a country if we work together mind set not what we will give you if you vote for us. It's insulting to those whom are left leaning and normal people with people like Sanders saying white's don't know being poor (ironic from a multi millionaire white guy himself oh but his wife hides the money so he's poor and allowed to speak for them) . It's never a smart idea to insult the same groups you are targeting.

The freak shows you let come to rallies and support on protests aren't a big group of voters. Drop them, let them throw tantrums not being welcome. My city hosted the DNC this year, I can't tell you how unsettling a lot of these people are to be around. I'm not trying to be humorous. If I leaned to the left and wanted to hear/see/interact with these people I wouldn't have went. After this election it's clear those fringe groups don't vote and don't matter, they are nothing but a black eye. Drop them.

The right may overly push it but focus on the family unit. Support and stand up for those dealing with non traditional family units but don't go so far where you shame the nuclear family. Give up on the free colleges, it ain't gonna happen or work in the US and I'll spare my economics backround sperg for it. Focus on the public school system that's grossly failing. Spin it into both fixing that and a cost thing, fixing the schools here and being #1st in the world again is going to make smarter happier wealthier people. It's an investment into the future and better suiting people for college and the real world while re doing the system will give us a new market to tap into.

I think by default because it's a "right" thing to deal with abortion and gun control they are locked into that debate just to counter point. Time and again Gun control has failed, cost elections etc. Don't give it up though. Tone back, while personally I'm in the "if you come for my guns I'll fucking kill you and your family camp" the smartest way to attack our right... I mean, deal with the issues is deal with the small stuff and don't fucking lie your face off. Aim for mild things, magazine size caps, import bans (because the faggot NRA helps these too because all their cash comes from US makers) etc, not banning a style of weapon etc.

Abortion, elect to kick the ball, let the Christian section of the right go after it, skirt the entire thing, push for state to state rulings. Depending how healthcare shapes up under trump you may want to play ball and fight to shoot planned parenthood down if it's going to all be covered under healthcare. Then you will be seen as willing to play ball, and adapt, claim you won the fight to get those services for all and now dropping dead weight.

Right now with how bad the party looks, a smart move would be clean house, not just in it's in need of a new face but dox everyone. Find the rats find the snakes and shake them out. I think both sides are seriously sick of the career gov employees on the top. A party that is willing to hang their own would be adored by all. Fresh blood will be welcomed by all.

Another thing they would need to do, is don't keep pushing for wars, seriously Obama blew up more shit than W by a long shot and somehow he gets a peace medal? I know the mil economy is granted "good" reasons in a lot of senators pockets to go but, become a party that doesn't want to nuke all the brown people. Hillary was chomping at the bit to go after Russia and that kind of conflict would be a blood bath.

Granted because the parties are so ass backwards and short sighted since they aren't held accountable for their actions, they will probably try to run a tranny or something against trump and get 34 votes.
 

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Either don't have primaries, or actually back the guy the people wanted, penis or not.
Don't give people the illusion of choice because they'll be pretty mad when they find our the truth.
 

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  • Occupy the Book Tower.
  • Buy windowless vans.
  • Abduct Howard Dean, Hillary Clinton, Debbie Wasserman Schultz, John Podesta, and Harry Reid.
  • Drive to Michigain.
  • Begin prayer.
  • Reach the summit of Book Tower
  • Enact the ISIS treatment while begging forgiveness from the vengeful ghosts of FDR, LBJ, and Christopher Hitchens.
  • Repeat the process until our ancestors spirits can find peace.
In tribute to @Oglooger, I call it "the Aztec Solution."
 
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They should do the exact same thing as they did this time, but spread their votes out in the correct states so they can win the electoral college too.
 

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Run Kamala Harris and Michelle Obama as your ticket to mobilize the base in 2020.

That's all I can come up with right now. Really though, run somebody smart enough not to break the first rule of politics and they probably flip this last result so sticking to that plan might do the trick in '20 anyway regardless who they run.
 

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