Reboots -

[Meat Target]

Why is most, if not all, new entertainment in Current Year a remake or reboot of a previous franchise? Original ideas are hard to come by these days.

Is it laziness/refusal to innovate from the industry? Consoomer manchildren locked in a doom-loop of nostalgiawank? Have we reached the point in history where every story that could be told has been told, and there is no longer anything new under the sun?

 

[Foxxo]

Corporate culture is all about avoiding risk.

 

[KokoroKoroki]

Why is most, if not all, new entertainment in Current Year a remake or reboot of a previous franchise? Original ideas are hard to come by these days.

Is it laziness/refusal to innovate from the industry? Consoomer manchildren locked in a doom-loop of nostalgiawank? Have we reached the point in history where every story that could be told has been told, and there is no longer anything new under the sun?

I'd say it's a combination of numerous things, the most prominent factor being to cash in on nostalgic memories of franchises that people want to see thrive again. Often times, the reboot tends to take out everything that people loved about the original for the sake of trying to bring in new fans or a more "modern" audience because they fail to realize what made the original product so beloved to begin with, you look at products like Ghostbusters 2016 or The Amazing Spider Man and you see just how badly a lot of reboots fuck up the original franchise.

It's most definitely laziness and is usually an attempt at "fixing" problems that weren't in the original to begin with. Originality is hard but that doesn't excuse the poor execution of ideas that have already done well by many before it.

 

[Milkis]

Why is most, if not all, new entertainment in Current Year a remake or reboot of a previous franchise? Original ideas are hard to come by these days.

Is it laziness/refusal to innovate from the industry? Consoomer manchildren locked in a doom-loop of nostalgiawank? Have we reached the point in history where every story that could be told has been told, and there is no longer anything new under the sun?

I don't have a good answer, but let's look at the question from another angle.

What was it about the period, say, 1930 - 1960 (just focussing on capeshit, other genres may have different years, like 1960 - 1990 for western and Japanese space operas)? What made those years so productive? If you look at very long durations of the Western culture-form, I think the rate of new story production was very low. People told variations on the same folk tales across time and space (thus the efforts of the Grimm bros. in Germany). Of course there were new stories - Shakespeare and Rabelais - but even Shakespeare's largest themed body of work, the Henriad cycle, is just a recount of the English kings during the latter phase of the Hundred Years' War.

One notion I have is that the period 1930 - 1960 was full of breakneck advancement. People who came of age in 1930 had been born into the end of the Victorian balance of powers, where flight and radio were novelties, and then got to live through two world wars, the invention of the tank, atomic power, jet planes, TV, the destruction of all but one of the world's imperial thrones, the rise of Wilsonian self-determination... the movie X-Men First Class makes it plain in a meta way, that the X-Men were born out of the atomic era. In universe this is handwaved away by radiation causing mutations. In reality, I think the rapid development of powers beyond man's control, especially the nuclear bomb, raised the urge to embody those vast powers in human form.

You could say the same thing is happening now with computer technology, but that's a different matter. The medium of comics has been degraded for other reasons. The best shot the "creative class" took at expressing that power gave us the dude who huffed his grandpa's experimental internet gas.

I don't think other themes are as played-out. Capeshit just sells AND has run out of creative steam, so it's a perfect storm for remake hell. If audiences ever get into spycraft realism and reflecting on the Cold War, there are several good Le Carre books that have yet to be made into films. Pretty please...

 

[Meat Target]

I'd say it's a combination of numerous things, the most prominent factor being to cash in on nostalgic memories of franchises that people want to see thrive again. Often times, the reboot tends to take out everything that people loved about the original for the sake of trying to bring in new fans or a more "modern" audience because they fail to realize what made the original product so beloved to begin with, you look at products like Ghostbusters 2016 or The Amazing Spider Man and you see just how badly a lot of reboots fuck up the original franchise.

It's most definitely laziness and is usually an attempt at "fixing" problems that weren't in the original to begin with. Originality is hard but that doesn't excuse the poor execution of ideas that have already done well by many before it.

All that said, I think there is still good new entertainment out there. You just have to look deeper than the most hyped CONSOOM PRODUCT.

The newest movie I've seen was Parasite, which was the first non-English language film to win Best Picture. And I genuinely liked it; anything that makes me feel like a bad person for laughing is well-made.

It just goes to show how entrenched in mediocrity the US entertainment industry has become.

If audiences ever get into spycraft realism and reflecting on the Cold War, there are several good Le Carre books that have yet to be made into films. Pretty please...

I dread screen adaptations of books if they're not made by Peter Jackson. Even without woke propaganda, it blisters by butthole when Hollywood is unfaithful to the source material. It's an insult to the original author's work. Which is why I'm trying to get a head start on The Wheel of Time before Amazon takes a hatchet to it.

 

[Not Really Here]

Writers with good and original stories can make far more money self publishing than selling a screenplay while retaining ownership of their IP.

 

[Idiotron]

There are tons of good original content being made all the time.
It's just that most people are lazy and don't want to look for it.
It's been proven in studies after studies, the vast majority of the population will only consume what's being given to them.
Even when they're being given things, they're less likely to try new things and go for the ones they're familiar with.
Companies figured it out so now, the things that are being advertised the most are things that we already know.
Why put money into things that might not appeal to people when they have IP A and IP B that have been consistently popular for decades?

You want original things to be popular?
Vote with your wallet, stop consuming franchises.

 

[Angry Shoes]

Maybe someday someone will post an actual deep thought to this subforum.

 

[Thotalicious Chris]

I think a pretty good guess (I could also be a retard short of a few chromosomes and it only makes sense to me), is that Reboots, Reloads, Remakes, Re;’s, ReBorn’s, etc, recycled or remixed content has already a safe demographic. Business is al, about taking risks for sure, but it’s better in there eyes to have risks with such minimal downsides that it stops being identified as a risk eventually. When you already have intimate familiarity with your audience and what they want out of life, and want out of you, it’s just very easy to feed them the same thing endlessly.

It’s much harder to introduce a new show, movie, comic, book, or any entertainment franchise because you don’t know your target audience- you don’t even know if the audience ever existed, and you’re wholly unique in your desire for this new thing. It’s a heavy gamble with weighted dice, often landing for the worse rather then the better.

There is safety in consistency, even if the consistency is shit.

It’s like crackerjacks at the old ball game, everyone within that culture knows what they are, knows they’ll like it or at least indulge in it, and it’ll make money, so why ever stop producing it? It’s the same product, all you gotta do is just change the packaging, you know? It’s why you never hear Baseball Sashimi or Baseball Burritos, because why fix it if it ain’t broke?

That isn’t a great comparison but I’m hungry, man.

 

[SSF2T Old User]

Did someone say Reboot?

Imagine if someone rebooted reboot. That would be some meta shit right there.

 

[Thotalicious Chris]

Did someone say Reboot?
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Imagine if someone rebooted reboot. That would be some meta shit right there.

Funny you say that, there is one. A live action one called Reboot: Gaurdians of the Code, a Netflix Exclusive. Forgot if it was a sequel or not.
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[Deadwaste]

Did someone say Reboot?
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Imagine if someone rebooted reboot. That would be some meta shit right there.

this is the part where i tell you they did, but it isnt good

 

[Kier]

Honestly, the Amazon retelling of Man in the High Castle is one of the best examples of how our entertainment industry needs to progress. It takes an established concept with a strong reputation and runs with it in a totally different direction. It has similar characters in thematically similar situations but takes it in a very different but still strong direction. It's not a butchery adaptation because, like its fellow PKD adaptation Blade Runner, it was trying to be something else.

We really need more media that follows that example. There are fantastic concepts that do deserve more exploration, but cut and paste is just wasting that potential even more.

 

[Prophetic Spirit]

I always prefer more media created by mixing a lot of concepts rather than rebooting dead franchises.
And not in a autistic level, more like taking inspiration, reinterpret many things and so on.
At least like @Not Really Here said, self-publishing is the best way.

 

[Milkis]

Did someone say Reboot?
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Imagine if someone rebooted reboot. That would be some meta shit right there.

What if reboot in 2021

Dot gets sucked into HoneySelect 2 by the user

 

[PaleTay]

The biggest reason is a lot of new shows are animated and Western animation is too slow to be successful and there's no real source material, and live action is too expensive or difficult to do anything creative well.

Even if you have a good idea, it's too Hollywoodified if it's live action, or your audience loses interest because it takes 2 years to release the first season of your show and any time your audience might have any interest you take a 3 month hiatus.