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entropyseekswork

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Wife cheated on him, reddit said divorce her he filed the papers and she then proceeded to murder their children and attempted to kill herself. The OPs have been deleted but probably exist somewhere else.

https://m.reddit.com/r/relationship_advice/comments/5eez5c/update_lessons_and_how_you_can_help_re_the_case/?st=IVXVVA0A&sh=7b041fee

Archive.

All,

This is a mod-authored update on the request for advice titled "I'm [30/m] having a hard time coping with my wife [29/f] having cheated on me with our neighbor [51/m]""

It came to us via /u/mistermorteau that the request for advice by /u/jasoninhell has taken the worst possible turn. For jasoninhell's sake, we won't repost the details here, though the news update can be found linked here.

We're using this post to draw attention to two things:

  • jasoninhell came to us seeking support, so we encourage anyone who can offer him support (especially local to him!) to reach out. Alternatively, there's also a gofundme page in memory of his children.

  • The intent behind much of the tough-love advice in the original thread was obvious to all of us reading the thread and upvoting comments as well as to jasoninhell himself. However, the tone used for quite a number of comments was unnecessarily harsh and may have failed to consider the reality of the situation (as best as we could've known—hindsight is 20/20). Ultimately, this speaks to the fact that everyone participating here is doing so with limited information and should be open to the possibility that there's more than meets the eye whenever providing guidance and advice. Going forward, all we ask is to please observe tone when providing advice and realize the potential for complications which might make any advice difficult to follow. Something which seems obvious to any one of us is rarely ever obvious to someone in the weeds of the relationship itself.
That said, thank you for supporting jasoninhell the way all of you did, especially in following up after his first update. Let's see if we can extend that support further.

-/r/relationship_advice

Previous three updates by jasoninhell:

  1. I'm [30/m] having a hard time coping with my wife [29/f] having cheated on me with our neighbor [51/m]

  2. [Update] I'm taking your advice

  3. [Update] Thank you
Edit: Actual news article. Archive.

A heartbroken dad says he 'failed' to protect his two young children after his wife allegedly stabbedthem to death at their home.

Brandi Worley killed her seven-year-old son, Tyler, and three-year-old daughter, Charlee, just a day after her spouse, Jason, filed for divorce, police say.

The 30-year-old, who had feared losing her children to her husband, also stabbed herself before calling the emergency services, it is claimed.

She allegedly told the dispatcher: "I just stabbed myself and killed my two children."

Jason was asleep in the basement of the house in Indiana, US, at the time of the alleged double murder in the early hours of November 17, it is reported.

He has since taken to social media to express his grief at his children's deaths, which occurred just hours after he filed for divorce from Brandi.


Jason and his two children, who were already dead when police arrived at the family home in Indiana, US (Photo: GoFundme/Tyler & Charlee Worley Fund)

The youngsters' mum, Brandi, has since been charged with two counts of murder, it is reported (Photo: Facebook/Brandi Worley)
In a series of Reddit posts , a man purporting to be Jason reveals how he feels he has 'failed' in his 'job' as a father to protect Tyler and Charlee.

He also describes his heart-wrenching return to the home in Darlington earlier this week, during which he believes he smelled 'blood' in his daughter's bedroom.

In a post on Thursday, he writes: "Today has been hard, I went back to the house for the first time. The cleaning company has already come and gone.

"I don't know if it is all in my head or not but I swear I could smell blood when I went in Charlee's room. It was heart wrenching to be hastily grabbing the remnants of my life and throwing them in the back of a van. I just couldn't be in the house any longer."

In a post a day earlier, he had claimed that his wife had suggested that he sleep on the sofa instead of an air mattress in the basement.

Video: Sheriff speaks at press conference shortly after 'double homicide'



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MONTGOMERY COUNTY SHERIFF DISCUSSES DOUBLE HOMICIDE


Tyler and Charlee died just a day after Jason filed for divorce from Brandi, police say (Photo: Gofundme/Tyler & Charlee Worley Fund)
He wrote: "I just can't help but wonder that if I had slept on the couch like she had suggested instead of an air mattress in the basement then maybe I could have saved my children or at the very least died with them.

"A father has one job in this world, to protect his children, and I failed to do that."

Jason, 30, who apparently uses the Reddit handle 'JasonInHell', had taken to the social network last month to ask for relationship advice.

He had claimed that he had caught Brandi cheating on him more than a year earlier, but had stayed with her 'for the sake of the children'.

The dad-of-two had told users: "I haven't been able to get it off of my mind since."

Mirror Online is unable to independently verify the cheating claims, nor 'JasonInHell's' identity.


Jason was asleep in the basement of the property at the time of the alleged double murder (Photo: 13WTHR)
Following the post, Jason had received an array of responses from users, with some advising him to contact a counsellor or a divorce lawyer.

A couple of weeks later, he filed for divorce. In the early hours of the next morning, Brandi allegedly killed Tyler and Charlee and injured herself.

She then called 9.11 at 4.35am and confessed to the crime, said Montgomery County Sheriff Mark Casteel, according to the Lafayette Journal & Courier .

"I can't imagine the pain or the grief that these families are feeling," Sheriff Casteel told reporters. "Please keep these families in your thoughts and prayers."

Tyler and Charlee were already dead when deputies arrived at the house in South Madison Street, while Brandi had suffered injuries to her neck.

The mum-of-two, who was apparently found sitting on her sofa by officers, was treated at an Indianapolis hospital for her wounds.

She has since been charged with two counts of murder, RTV6 reports.


Brandi reportedly told officers that her husband had filed for divorce and she 'did not want him taking' the kids (Photo: Facebook/Brandi Worley)
It is understood that her two children were stabbed in the neck.

Following the alleged double killing, Brandi told officers that her husband had filed for divorce and she 'did not want him taking' the kids, court documents state.

She allegedly said: "I just wanted to die with them," according to the documents.

Jason, who had been married to his wife since August 2009, took to Reddit earlier this week to thank other users for their advice and support.

A post by the user purporting to be him read: "I would like to give a heartfelt and sincere thank you for the advice and support I have received here.

"No one could have foreseen the tragedy that resulted from me filing for divorce."

A GoFundMe page has been set up to support Jason and cover his children's funeral expenses. More than $14,000 has so far been raised of the $20,000 goal.

Brandi remains in police custody.
 
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entropyseekswork

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Was the advice to get a divorce?
Yes, the OPs have been deleted but might have been saved by archive, the "tough love" advice reddit gave with very limited information was to divorce her. He filed for divorce and it was followed by her stabbing their kids to death and trying to kill herself with the same knife.

edit: uuuggghhhhh i should have named the thread "Reddit literally murders man's family with shitty relationship advice" and this is my punishment for drinking beer.
 
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Are there any screencaps or archives of the original posts? I'm interested in seeing what all he wrote and what was said to him, if he indicated his wife was a psycho bitch that endangered her entire family.

Fuck, man. 3 and 7 years old, stabbed to death by their own mother.
 

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Yes, the OPs have been deleted but might have been saved by archive, the "tough love" advice reddit gave with very limited information was to divorce her. He filed for divorce and it was followed by her stabbing their kids to death and trying to kill herself with the same knife.

edit: uuuggghhhhh i should have named the thread "Reddit literally murders man's family with shitty relationship advice" and this is my punishment for drinking beer.
tbh this isn't convincing me it was bad advice.

How do you find this funny?
Start with a near total lack of humanity and it's easy.
 

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Original OP.
TL;DR: I caught my wife cheating on me over a year ago. I stayed with her for the sake of our children, but I haven't been able to get it off of my mind since.

It has been 476 days since I confronted her about it, how do I know? Because every time I catch myself thinking about it I tell myself, "It's only been X days, maybe you won't think about it tomorrow".

So to go back to the beginning I had just taken on a new project and new responsibilities at work. I was working a lot of hours (60+ per week) and was noticeably stressed. It was in May of 2015 that I noticed that she had added a password to her phone. When confronted about it she told me it was because she was planning my Father's Day present and didn't want me to ruin the surprise. About a week later she came to me and told me that she felt guilty keeping a big secret from me and told me that she was having our neighbor, a contractor, build a home office for me as my present. It struck me as odd as in our 6 years together she has never said she felt guilty about anything and always insists that she never regrets anything in her life.

Time goes on, her phone is still password protected, and things don't feel right. I see her using her phone and smiling to herself more and more often. But when I ask her what she is doing she says nothing and puts her phone away. So one morning I wait for her to get in the shower and I grab her phone before it requires the password. I go through her messages and find that she is texting the neighbor, "I am all covered in frosting, you wanna lick it off?". There were no other messages to the neighbor but I found out later that was because she had setup her phone to delete messages after a certain amount of time. I felt uncomfortable with it but I knew she had a perverted sense of humor and I thought she would never do anything to hurt me.

More time goes by and the neighbor is spending more and more time at our house but the office is being completed slower and slower. I can't help but worry that something isn't right so I start checking her location using Google Timeline. It was at this point that I realize that there are large gaps in her GPS history because she was turning off her phone's GPS. Fast forward to July and at this point the paranoia is driving me nuts so I tell her that I need to install new anti-virus on her phone. While she has it unlocked for me I install Anti-theft software so I can remotely turn the GPS back on and set up At&t Message Backup and Restore so I can read all of her text messages from that point on my computer.

The next day my mother asks to spend time with my two kids so my wife drops them off with her and has the day to herself. I watch my wife's activity from work as she spends the day trying to meet up with the neighbor but is unsuccessful because he is busy with another job site. That night we get the kids back from my mom's house and we go out to dinner with the neighbor, his girlfriend, and his son. My wife and his girlfriend are having a good time drinking, laughing, and just joking around. His girlfriend mentions that should would like to see Magic Mike XXL, I say it's a good idea I'll watch the kids so my wife and her can go. So my wife and her go and the neighbor and I go back to my house so the kids can play video games together.

The kids are back in my son's room playing games and the neighbor is sitting across from me on the other couch. It is at this point that my wife starts texting him. She is describing sex acts she would like to perform with him and he is reciprocating. She tells him to check his snapchat and at the same time I get a snapchat from her too and it is her fingering herself in a bathroom stall. They keep talking, trying to figure out when they can meet up and have sex. They decide on Monday morning after I go to work. So in my head I had already planned to pretend to leave and circle back to catch them. But then they tell each other that they love each other and it is all I can do to not leap off the couch and knock him out. But I contain myself and continue reading the conversation unfolding in front of me. Then he tells her, "You're my girl now", to which she replies, "Always have been", ending with him writing, "And always will be".

My wife and the neighbor's girlfriend return from the movie and I ask them, politely, to sit down. I then ask the kids to stay in my son's room and shut the door. I return to the living room and confront my wife and the neighbor. I say, "So you two love each other huh?". My wife goes in to full blown denial mode and the neighbor's girlfriend starts smacking him. I ask my wife if she has been texting him, she says no. So I show her the text messages, she admits to it but says it was the first time it had gone that far. I ask my wife if she has sent him pictures, she says no. So I show her the picture, she admits it but says it was the first time. I ask her if she is having sex with him and she says no. Because I didn't wait to catch them having sex together I didn't have evidence to prove her wrong so that one stayed unresolved.

I tell her that I am leaving her, she tells me that she will make sure I never see my kids again if I do. She planned on using the fact that I had attempted suicide in high school to prove me unfit to have the children. She continues to say that it was my fault for being so busy with work and stressed out, that she just wanted someone she could talk to. Then she gives me an ultimatum to decide what I'm going to do or she will decide for me. The neighbor's girlfriend starts defending the two of them saying that it couldn't have been serious if they weren't having sex and that my wife and I are too perfect together to let this break us up. The neighbors go home and my wife and I argue for the rest of the night about what we are going to do. We go to bed separately having not resolved anything. We keep going back and forth on the subject all weekend and finally settle on we were going to separate temporarily while we figure out what we want. I was going to stay in the house and she was going to take the kids and go to her mom's house.

That Monday I go to work and I get text from her in the middle of a meeting with my bosses stating that she had explained things to our kids, but that they were upset and I need to explain it to them also. I get home from work to find my kids crying. She had told them that mommy had to move out because dad was mad at her. When my son wanted to stay with me she told him that he can't. My son put it together that if mommy has to move out because I'm mad at her and he must move out then I must have been mad at him too. My daughter was crying because my son was, I don't think she was old enough to understand what was happening.

It was at that moment I realized she was going to drag the kids through hell if I left her so I swallowed my feelings and begged her to stay. She agreed and insisted that I apologize to our neighbor since we were still going to need to hang out with them because our sons are good friends. I hate it but I do it anyway, we still hang out with them from time to time and they come to our various birthday and holiday parties. But I'd do anything for my kids and I behave civil every time.

Things die down for awhile, I still think about it constantly. I worry how can I keep from making her so unhappy that she cheats on me again. Then almost a year from the original incident, around Father's Day again, she send him pictures again. She claims it was an accident that she meant to send them to me instead. I don't fully believe her but I move on anyway.

Things have been quiet on that front for about 4 months now but I still think about it constantly. This is going to sound stupid but I feel like I have a part of my brain that I can't shut off, that is always thinking. I used to use that to solve programming problems and it made me very good at my job. But ever since this incident, the only thing it thinks about is her and him and if I did the right thing. My job performance has suffered and I feel like I haven't gotten sleep in months. I'm afraid that after this much time, and the fact that I begged her back, that to say that I want a divorce now would only make her more vindictive towards my children and I. I just feel like I have put myself so deep in a hole that I can never get back out. I haven't really talked to anyone about this. I didn't want to talk to my mom about it because I felt she would treat my wife differently and I didn't need the two fighting anymore than they already do. I tried talking to one friend about it but his advice was to put my trust in God but that was not much solace for me as I am an atheist. So I have no clue what to do with my feelings or how to move on from this.
 

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They could have given better advice, like chop up her body with a hatchet and bury it in a shallow grave somewhere, but I'm not going to fault them for not doing that even if the results would have been better that way.
I can't find the OP's for the updates, but I'm sure someone has them somewhere, but here's the advice from Update 1 and 2. There are uneddit reddit tools, but it's not working for me for some reason, maybe someone else will have better luck?
 
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