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NerdShamer

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I think they both did posts on this person, I have the link for all the 4thwavenow posts tagged with his name:

4thwavenow.com/tag/jenn-burleton/

Troon in question is Jenn Burlyman Burleton, of Trans Active in Portland, which seems to focus on girls under 18 and how to supply them with breast crushers. I'm sure it would make Jenn happy if all females had breasts that looked like this:

Note the actual place of the nipples; I think I originally thought they were at the very bottom the first time I saw this pic.
ETA: which, thinking about it, means they were probably magnificent. Not that it matters.
Troonery: Refusing to think about how their lifestyle will haunt them in the future.
 

Wallace

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The anorexia and gender dysphoria comparisons are interesting as autism spectrum disorder is particularly common in both girls with anorexia and girls with gender dysphoria.
I'd say both suffer from an inability to understand what will make them feel more socially accepted. There's significant overlap in symptoms between autism and social anxiety disorder, and there's a high degree of comorbidity. Social anxiety and eating disorders are also highly comorbid.
 

Cool kitties club

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I do agree on that. But for those who are already predisposed to transgenderism for whatever reason, porn can be the tipping point. But there's other tipping points also, like social contagion.
Social contagion, definitely. The other reason is mostly pre-existing social anxiety and poor self-esteem coming from gender nonconforming behavior, thoughts, or interests.
There was a study done on this it was called rapid onset gender dysphoria: https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2018/08/180822150809.htm
 

Matthew216

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You know, I was reading about George Carlin a moment ago, and they brought up one of his old bits about things people would never say. There was one particular sentence he said that people would never say, and it made me think of this thread.

"As soon as I put this red hot poker in my ass, I'm going to go chop my dick off!"

.................. oh George, if only you were still alive to see the world nowadays.
 

Gone_Fission

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The anorexia and gender dysphoria comparisons are interesting as autism spectrum disorder is particularly common in both girls with anorexia and girls with gender dysphoria.
It probably has a lot to do with autistic people being more likely to have physical discomfort with their own bodies due to sensory issues. Autistic people can be hyperaware of the way their own body feels and it can make them feel disgusted or alienated from themselves.
 

NerdShamer

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If it's the study I think it is its data mostly comes from parents of suddenly trans children posting on the internet. If it's not then I get to be embarrassed about not actually clicking the link.
It's about kids exploring social media and seeing stuff that they're too young to understand.

It probably has a lot to do with autistic people being more likely to have physical discomfort with their own bodies due to sensory issues. Autistic people can be hyperaware of the way their own body feels and it can make them feel disgusted or alienated from themselves.
I think there's an cow for this. I'm not sur who, but I remember seeing an KF thread on autistics complaining about gross shit on Tumblr.
 

CIA Nigger

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/r/traa now bans ABDL stuff, even on the NSFW spinoff.
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https://archive.fo/XZEqi

Daily Dot did a fluff piece on /r/traa as well and similar troon meme subreddits:
https://archive.fo/YLGBS

Welcome to the surreal, supportive humor of Reddit’s trans ‘sh*tposting’ subreddit

“As a little boy, bullies called me a girl. Now bullies call me a man. You can’t win,” a 2016 tweet from trans porn star Bailey Jay reads. “Only I do, because I have a killer rack and a big dick.”

Jay’s tweet is legendary with trans Twitter users; it’s the kind of snarky joke that mirrors how trans women talk about themselves IRL in queer spaces. But Jay’s tweet doesn’t just reside on Twitter. Over on Reddit, a screengrab of Jay’s tweet is the sixth-most popular post on a subreddit called r/traaaaaaannnnnnnnnns (or r/traa for short).

Submitted under the headline “MtF_IRL” (a tongue-in-cheek reference to both the subreddit r/me_irl and the antiquated term “male-to-female transsexual”), the post holds over 5,500 upvotes and 100 comments, many of which are from other trans women joining in on the fun.

“Fucking goals,” one user posts.

“Bailey and Samus are my pantheon,” quips another, referencing Metroid’s Samus Aran.

A third user points out that she’s halfway to being like Jay, but she still needs “the killer rack.”

“$5k should do ya,” another responds.

Jay’s tweet is funny, but it’s also cathartic: trans women grow up in a world that’s constantly using our transness against us. Per usual in trans spaces, dark humor is an inroad to discussing serious topics that impact trans women every day of their lives.

“If you’re [assigned male at birth], people will call you a female to insult you—as a kid in the playground and as an adult if you don’t do/believe XYZ… up until you present as female,” one user explains, earning 400 upvotes. “Then no matter what you do, you’re a man to them. It’s fascinating (misogynistic and transphobic) logic.”

On any given day, that’s r/traa in a nutshell. It’s sometimes serious, sometimes hilarious, but always relatable. It’s Reddit’s official trans shitposting subreddit, so to speak, and within the online trans community, it’s legendary.

It’s a bit of a stereotype that trans people are Extremely Online, but there’s some truth to the idea. For many of us that grew up in the ’90s and 2000s, the internet was our queer refuge. The offline world told us being trans was sick, wrong, and disgusting. So we built our sense of community on sites like DeviantART, Tumblr, Twitter, Reddit, and LiveJournal.

The more time we spent online, the more we picked up its sense of humor. Some of us started on 4chan and branched out to Tumblr or Twitter. Others got their start on Something Awful and migrated to the r/ShitRedditSays subs. Either way, we learned how humor changes from website to website and how every community has its own vibe. We figured out what is and isn’t funny in online spaces and catered our jokes to those tastes. We also learned how to express ourselves through memes, packaging our happiness, sadness, and anxieties into anime GIFs and reaction images.

That experience isn’t just in r/traa’s DNA. It’s why the subreddit works the way it does.

Subreddit co-founder E1337Kat, also known as Ellie, created the subreddit with Redditor TroubleEntendre in 2012, according to a farewell post Ellie penned last year. In an interview with the Daily Dot, Ellie explained that r/traa kicked off after users on r/transgender wanted to regularly post memes to share with other trans users. Because this would be a point of contention in the r/transgender community, trans users looked to r/gaaaaaaayyyyyyyyyyyy, a subreddit in which users post memes and shitposts about being queer, as an inspiration for a trans memes subreddit. Soon enough, r/traa was born.

“The first mod was some cis person, and then I asked to be a mod. After I was made a mod, the other mods stepped down for some reason I don’t recall and left the subreddit in my capable hands,” Ellie told the Daily Dot. “Being the owner of a fancy pants new fangled subreddit with only like five subscribers, I felt it necessary to inform the masses of the subreddit. I posted about it on r/gaaaayyy, r/transgendercirclejerk, and probably on other memes I saw including rare trans memes that made it to the front page from the defaults.”

Half a decade later, over 75,000 users subscribe to the community. For many trans people, it’s a space where they can be themselves, a point that r/traa mod AnalogFresh stressed when interviewed by the Daily Dot.

“I think r/traa’s main appeal is it is a rare place on the internet where trans folks can come laugh, vent, meet others, and share experiences without dealing with the normal bs trans people have to put up with day in and day out,” AnalogFresh, also known as Corinne, explained.

Take Redditor DigitalPolice’s submission “I feel called out.” The post shows a stack of increasingly bigger blocks lined up like dominoes, with the largest being “Overthrowing capitalism” and the smallest being “wanting to be cute in thigh highs.” Destroying late capitalism, it turns out, comes down to trans girls looking cute.

“This is me but i took the route to agorism instead,” one user replies.

Then there’s one of r/traa’s most popular posts, “Transition timelines.” That meme riffs on before-after transition timelines commonly posted by trans people on the internet. The submission’s image says “2006 vs 2019” and shows a side-by-side photo of Bobby Hill from King of the HIll crying while sloppily putting on makeup. 13 years later, Bobby has become his cousin Luanne Platter, pictured with a “VOTE COMMUNIST” sign.

“Fully automatic luxury trans propane communism,” one user writes. Another says: “God I wish that were me.”

Memes for trans women and trans femmes largely dominate r/traa, but the subreddit isn’t just built for trans girls. One of r/traa’s most popular memes, “just in case y’all wanna go on 4chan,” features a greentext story in which a trans man tells 4chan’s /pol/ that he is a trans woman so they will “aggressively gender me as male,” to his amusement.

Another post shows an age comparison between a pre-transition trans man at 10-years-old and him at 20. In that meme, he goes from “I hate boys” to “why dont i have a penis.” Like r/traa’s trans women, trans men get just as much out of the subreddit’s shitposting antics too.

Corinne believes r/traa’s laid-back attitude doesn’t just let trans folks vent, it also helps questioning trans people figure themselves out. Because transitioning and coming out is such a nervewracking process, getting the chance to joke about it and talk about it gives people in the early stages of their transitioning a support network that they may desperately need.

“The relatable trans memes are a way for people who are just beginning to explore their gender identity to see if they relate to anything while having a lightheartedness about it,” Corinne explained to the Daily Dot. “As generally exploring one’s gender identity is a really difficult path to go down, but I feel if you can laugh while you’re figuring yourself out it helps take away some of that stress.”

Many r/traa posters try to outright support pre-transition users questioning their gender, whether through memes or supportive comments. Look no further than the all-time most popular submission shared on r/traa, from a teenage trans woman who goes by the Reddit username Amekyras. That post riffs on a search phrase commonly typed into Google by closeted trans people: “am I trans quiz.”

In the post, Amekyras asks users to upvote the meme so it is “the first result on Google Images when a kid tries to figure it out.”

“Kid, I gotta hand it to you,” the meme reads, with text in the trans flag’s colors. “If you googled that, the answer is ‘probably.’ Now, sort this sub by top. See if you associate with anything. Enjoy!”

For the record, the upvote campaign was a success. After I searched the phrase “am i trans quiz” in Google Images in Google Chrome’s Incognito Mode, the search term immediately brought up the post as a first result.

Corinne calls the submission her “personal favorite.”

“Because it is a great introduction to the sub for someone beginning to explore their gender identity,” Corinne said. “Since I always look at the top posts whenever I check out a new subreddit I’m glad that this post pops up first under top of r/traa.”

This seems to be a running theme on r/traa; its memes aren’t just cathartic, they can also help people come out. Take, for example, “egg” jokes, a common topic that Corinne calls “emblematic of trans experiences.” For the uninitiated, an “egg” is a pre-transition trans person who shows signs of gender dysphoria but doesn’t consciously realize it. The phrase was originally coined by Zoey Wolfe after she would repeatedly hook up with pre-transition trans women on Grindr, leading her to call herself “the brood mother cuz I’m hatching eggs.”

These days, “egg” has a much more wholesome undertone, and the phrase lives on in part because it lets trans people own their own transition stories. For instance, many trans women believe there are noticeable patterns among other trans women in their egg years, such as growing their hair out or largely befriending women. Memes don’t just let trans folks bond over these patterns, they can lead to an egg becoming self-aware and “hatching” on r/traa.

“Fuck it. I’m calling it. This egg has shattered. I’m a girl,” one r/traa user’s post says. “Thanks to all of you for the validation and helping me realize the insecurity and denial is all part of it.”

It’s easy to boil r/traa down to merely “trans shitposting,” but there’s a much bigger appeal to the subreddit. It’s a place where trans people can take their life stories and recast them into relatable memes that make them feel seen and heard by other trans folks. Reddit’s r/traa isn’t about farming for karma, it’s about giving trans men, women, nonbinary, and questioning folks a safe place to express themselves.

“This subreddit is my new family! Thanks for being [there] when they weren’t!” one trans woman’s post says. “Love you all <3”

“I love you too, OP,” another user replies, “but most of all I love the person reading this.”
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Leibowitz

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Well it has been a horrifying hundred pages. Semper Fi to you brave kiwis who visit the cesspools of Reddit and return with info on inflatable FtM fleshcicles and rotting MtF Nurgleholes. I have learned way too much about the depraved things that mental illness and unchecked fetishism can push people to do.
 

AnOminous

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It's about kids exploring social media and seeing stuff that they're too young to understand.
It isn't just kids. Medical students, especially psychology students, are known for suddenly believing they have illnesses after reading about them. People tend to try to explain things that make them uncomfortable, so if they are uncomfortable with their bodies, a very common phenomenon during puberty, giving them a false but rational seeming explanation naturally is going to trigger a belief that that is the actual explanation in some percentage of them.

Throw in huge amounts of peer pressure and an online cult that actively recruits and "hatches eggs," their term for trooning someone out, and you have a social epidemic, much like you get with copycat suicides, crimes and other aberrant behavior.
 

NoFeline

im intersex i have both uwu
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I believe I've mentioned this before but even people within the community are starting to become agitated with the saturation of open/overt sexual deviants, complaints which almost always reference the diaper-shitters specifically, and especially MtF.

It's really not hard to see why there's so many, it's a Freudian sort of kink like any other. I've spent enough time in other communities that are oversaturated with ABDL to tell you that "adult baby" is pretty goddamn literal. They're like children. They're petty. They throw tantrums. They hate responsibility. They're getting off on pretending to be an age where they have no consequences, no responsibilities, no cares in the world. It's the same shit with troons. Either they think their discomfort with their adult life is because they're trans, or they're men trying to escape male expectations and cash in on the largely infantilized social role of women.
 

Crunchy Leaf

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I believe I've mentioned this before but even people within the community are starting to become agitated with the saturation of open/overt sexual deviants, complaints which almost always reference the diaper-shitters specifically, and especially MtF.

It's really not hard to see why there's so many, it's a Freudian sort of kink like any other. I've spent enough time in other communities that are oversaturated with ABDL to tell you that "adult baby" is pretty goddamn literal. They're like children. They're petty. They throw tantrums. They hate responsibility. They're getting off on pretending to be an age where they have no consequences, no responsibilities, no cares in the world. It's the same shit with troons. Either they think their discomfort with their adult life is because they're trans, or they're men trying to escape male expectations and cash in on the largely infantilized social role of women.
Do you think you could provide some examples of trans people getting mad at all the sex freaks? Are there autogynephiles who hate other autogynephiles that are more weird than them?

You say 'largely infantilized social role of women', and I assume you mean that it's acceptable for women to stay home and not work, but God, can you imagine a troon trying to raise a baby?
 

NoFeline

im intersex i have both uwu
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Do you think you could provide some examples of trans people getting mad at all the sex freaks? Are there autogynephiles who hate other autogynephiles that are more weird than them?
I'm trying to recall the name of the horse furry on twitter that I have in mind. If I remember, or find anything else, you can be sure I'll bring it back here.

can you imagine a troon trying to raise a baby?
I was having such a nice day not thinking about cluster-B parenting.

Troons don't usually make it that far, thank god, but the few I've seen either trooned out after their kids were well past being infants (Sometimes adults, but I keep seeing troon-dads mention at least one of their kids being 7 and the pattern is starting to unnerve me.) or were severely detached from the child and wanted nothing to do with it. I remember one in particular from reddit and I think it's been posted to this thread as well, where they said they had desperately wanted a baby and obviously could not have one, so they manipulated convinced their wife to have one for them, and when it arrived they were distressed and asking reddit for input because they felt nothing for the child.

I just realized that 7 years old is about second grade, when little girls and little boys first notice each other and tell their parents about school crushes. Oh fucking yikes.
 

Kokorengo

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You say 'largely infantilized social role of women', and I assume you mean that it's acceptable for women to stay home and not work, but God, can you imagine a troon trying to raise a baby?
Troons don't want to be an actual average woman, that is, a 5/10 (though even that would be an achievement for the majority).
They want to be the 9/10 big tittied 18 year old blonde who gets everything handed to her on a silver platter thanks to her looks.
Since they actually are 20 to 40 year old fat men, the result is very humorous, spawning many threads here.
 

Crunchy Leaf

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They think they're gonna be Gigi Gorgeous, and they're not. Although, the only real thing he has going for him is being good at makeup--without it he still looks like a man.

Here's a comment I found on r/transgendercirclejerk talking about Susan's Place, a notorious hotbed of autogynephilia:
I’m pretty sure all ages of pervy 1950’s Leave it to Beaver gender roles enforcing gatekeeping kinksters are allowed to join and help gaslight trans kids into not transitioning.
and another post:
hi, my name is poly cat ears anime kink communism thigh highs head pats computer science. welcome to my twitter account that is devoid of any personality
I also found a guy (who posts a ton in sissy subs) on r/tgcj talking about how he'd probably be trans if he were younger or naturally femmier-looking, but he knows he'd only be happy as a woman if he was hot, and he knows he wouldn't be hot, so he's not going to transition. I've yet to see anyone so self aware.
 
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