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Most kids have this same access and most aren't trooning out. The people that troon out are already disturbed.
I don't know about that. There was a legitimate research report from a while ago that found that the sudden spike in this kind of behavior seemed to come from peer groups in teen girls. I think that the underlying behavior to step outside of societal norms or bounds exists, but the way in which in manifests changes over time. I recall when I was younger there was a similar degree of worry over teenage girls getting involved in witchcraft because that had reached some level of cultural awareness and popularity.

The main difference is that teenage girls playing with Ouija boards or doing stiff as a feather light as a board in their rooms at sleepovers were far less likely to inflict longterm damage as the people toying around with this shit. I think that eventually this will die down, because the next generation will embrace something else instead of this idiocy, but there's going to be a lot of longterm suffering and remorse over this shit. As the saying goes, if you can't be a good example, you can always serve as a horrible warning.
 

Wallace

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I do agree on that. But for those who are already predisposed to transgenderism for whatever reason, porn can be the tipping point. But there's other tipping points also, like social contagion.
Social contagion, definitely. The other reason is mostly pre-existing social anxiety and poor self-esteem coming from gender nonconforming behavior, thoughts, or interests.
 

Evian Les Rutabaga

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Social contagion, definitely. The other reason is mostly pre-existing social anxiety and poor self-esteem coming from gender nonconforming behavior, thoughts, or interests.
What keeps confusing me is that the people screeching the loudest against a Gender Binary (a thing that only they are sensitive enough to perceive) are also largely the ones being emotionally supported by social media propagating their arbitrary checklists for "gender conformance" from one self-isolated hugbox to another. The larger picture may well match models of social hysteria, maybe even some of the more cult-like religious movements. But the more I see of transtrenderism, the more it reminds me of delusional ideation and the less I see of gender dysphoria.


tl,dr: If the gender of your self-image isn't the same two days running, and that causes problems in your life, that isn't "gender-fluidity"; that's mental instability. I don't care if BuzzFeed or Vox says otherwise.
 

Mr. A. L. Mao

Has the inclinations to...mount women
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What’s the best way i can help a trans kid who isn’t mine?
https://archive.fo/CzHCT

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u/flower8330

14 hours ago

My child is non-binary. We are a super supportive home and we love them very much. They’ve made friends with a transgender boy whose family is quite religious and does not support at all. Mom takes him to extra church when “gay” things come up. She insists on pink and girlie things. She is anti. Dad would probably be supportive if she wasn’t there, but mom rules the roost. I really don’t know the parents well. She comes off as icy and i have troubles making conversation with her when she picks her kid up from our house.

The boy has slept over our house a few times. My child gave me a heads up of the unsupportive environment that he lives in. In our house we call him by preferred pronouns and his chosen name. With his parents, i have to switch to she/deadname to make sure they don’t suspect anything so they won’t cut us off. I have told him that we are a safe place and if anything happens he can always come to our home. I made sure he has 2nd floor and Trevor project programmed into his phone. We have a pool, i offered to take him to target to get a boys bathing suit (or whatever would make him feel ok) that we could keep at our house for him; i don’t think he was ready for this and i think he was very embarrassed.

The kids are 13 and in 8th grade.

What else can i do to support this kid? I went through so much with my own child, and I’ve seen their pain with dysphoria and just living even though we are supportive.
Letting a teenage girl walk around topless to own the bigots :cryblood:

ItsYaBoyTrimmerFit

79 points·13 hours ago

Trans man here. Good on you! We need more parents who are willing to take more kids under their wings.

My suggestion would be to offer him a binder if he's gone through puberty and have started to develop. (I personally started in 5th grade and a binder would have been amazing had I known they even existed) they range in price and quality just like every other garment out there. If he spends the night often and do family things with you all, maybe being able to present as male in public with supportive adults could do a world of good for his mental health.

Keep doing what you're doing and he'll see that there are people out there who know transgender people deserve the respect of being called what they want and to be gendered correctly. You're doing a great job!

My final suggestion is to ask him what being supportive looks like to him, and maybe tell him what that looks like to you so he understands he doesn't need to be embarrassed about you offering him stuff.
flower8330

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My child has many binders. If i bought him a binder, there’s no way it could ever come home with him. He would be in a lot of trouble.

I love the idea of asking him! Thank you.

We were in the store looking for bathing suit alternatives this weekend, and i could tell he was done. I said to him, “ i just want you to feel ok.” I thought he was going to cry right there. I hugged him, and we left. But i was of course worried bc he’s not my kid and i don’t know his limits as well as my own kid.
Just facilitating the trooning of a teenage girl against the wishes of her parents, nbd
Seems to be a woman poster so it's slightly less creepy than I first thought, but there's a lot of boundaries that are being pushed here. This lady is nuts :cryblood:
 

GoutCrystals

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What’s the best way i can help a trans kid who isn’t mine?
https://archive.fo/CzHCT

Letting a teenage girl walk around topless to own the bigots :cryblood:

Just facilitating the trooning of a teenage girl against the wishes of her parents, nbd
Seems to be a woman poster so it's slightly less creepy than I first thought, but there's a lot of boundaries that are being pushed here. This lady is nuts :cryblood:
That parent needs to be reported to the police. You can't decide to purchase restraints for another person's child and binders cause costochondritis and damage to the ribs. What in the actual fuck? This woman doesn't know this kids medical history at all but is so sure she's on "the right side of history" she'll completely override parental boundaries.

Also allowing a female teen you are not related to walk around your house topless is sketchy as all fuck.
 
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NerdShamer

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That parent needs to be reported to the police. You can't decide to purchase restraints for another person's child and binders cause costochondritis and damage to the ribs. What in the actual fuck? This woman doesn't know this kids medical history at all but is so sure she's on "the right side of history" she'll completely override parental boundaries.

Also allowing a female teen you are not related to walk around your house topless is sketchy as all fuck.
I thought it was already established that they've thrown the possibility of any and all medical side effects under the bus when the skin-graft surgery was invented?

Besides, they think that it's important to convert normal people into troons while their young. Otherwise dysphoria-induced suicide wil probably (not) happen.
 

NoFeline

im intersex i have both uwu
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You can't decide to purchase restraints for another person's child and binders cause costochondritis and damage to the ribs.
You especially should not be wearing binders while you're still growing. In addition to rib damage, it can also seriously fuck up your spine. You should not be suggesting binders to randos who have no clue about any of this shit. Without proper information this kid is probably going overbind and develop chest infections, going to put the thing on wrong and damage the breasts and skin, fucking up their future surgical results assuming they ever have a mastectomy, and increasing the risk of cancer if they don't.

You can't just throw these things at a kid and say "yeah, go wild".
 

wabbits

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A couple of months ago, the Brit tabs set fire to a charity - MORF - for deliberately distributing binders to minors without their parents knowing. (Daily Mail, the Sun)

In the U.S., the In a Bind program had done the same thing specifically targeting girls 18 and under, though at the moment they say lack money for shipping binders, though local girls can come to their office to pick one up.

Yes, the office is in Portland, Oregon, because woke.

There was a lot of buzz at one point that the U.S. sneak-it-past-the-parents effort was financed by James/Jennifer Pritzker, but I haven't found receipts for that this morning. Maybe I saw it on GenderTrender before Wordpress nuked the site. In any event, funding seems to have dried up.
 

OttoWest

1988 Miss Black Awareness Pageant finalist
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There was a lot of buzz at one point that the U.S. sneak-it-past-the-parents effort was financed by James/Jennifer Pritzker, but I haven't found receipts for that this morning. Maybe I saw it on GenderTrender before Wordpress nuked the site. In any event, funding seems to have dried up.
It was either Gendertrender or 4thWaveNow that had the details on the troon (yes, it was an adult male contacting teenage girls) running one of the binder companies in Portland. I’ll do some digging later.
 

Your Weird Fetish

Intersectional fetishist
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I don't know about that. There was a legitimate research report from a while ago that found that the sudden spike in this kind of behavior seemed to come from peer groups in teen girls. I think that the underlying behavior to step outside of societal norms or bounds exists, but the way in which in manifests changes over time. I recall when I was younger there was a similar degree of worry over teenage girls getting involved in witchcraft because that had reached some level of cultural awareness and popularity.

The main difference is that teenage girls playing with Ouija boards or doing stiff as a feather light as a board in their rooms at sleepovers were far less likely to inflict longterm damage as the people toying around with this shit. I think that eventually this will die down, because the next generation will embrace something else instead of this idiocy, but there's going to be a lot of longterm suffering and remorse over this shit. As the saying goes, if you can't be a good example, you can always serve as a horrible warning.
Oh yeah it's a whole different thing with the sudden spike in teen girls, I agree. I was thinking of the mtf route.
 
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I don't know about that. There was a legitimate research report from a while ago that found that the sudden spike in this kind of behavior seemed to come from peer groups in teen girls. I think that the underlying behavior to step outside of societal norms or bounds exists, but the way in which in manifests changes over time. I recall when I was younger there was a similar degree of worry over teenage girls getting involved in witchcraft because that had reached some level of cultural awareness and popularity.
The best comparison is probably how social contagion can lead to an entire group of young women to become anorexic. And that's some serious shit. A peer group will reinforce anorexic behavior by reinforcing delusions and congratulating one another for weight loss or extreme exercise routines.

Social contagion is fairly well understood in the context of anorexia, but, thanks to politics, researchers have to tiptoe around examining it in gender dysphoria even though an incredibly similar thing is going on.
 

Sinners Sandwich

I'm watching you
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The best comparison is probably how social contagion can lead to an entire group of young women to become anorexic. And that's some serious shit. A peer group will reinforce anorexic behavior by reinforcing delusions and congratulating one another for weight loss or extreme exercise routines.

Social contagion is fairly well understood in the context of anorexia, but, thanks to politics, researchers have to tiptoe around examining it in gender dysphoria even though an incredibly similar thing is going on.
At least anorexia doesn't mean pumping girls full of steroids so that they masculinize to the point of no return and cut off healthy body parts.

Both troonery and anorexia are bad but I think troonery is way worse.
 

Cryin RN

True & Honest Fan
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Both troonery and anorexia are bad but I think troonery is way worse.
Anorexia has one of, if not THE, highest mortality rates of all of the psychiatric disorders. Because the mechanism of transitioning is less fatal, except to your genitals and/or boobs, I don't think it will ever snatch anorexia's crown. We actually don't have data on trans mortality. The "40% suicide rate" is for ATTEMPTS, not completions.
 

eternal dog mongler

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Anorexia has one of, if not THE, highest mortality rates of all of the psychiatric disorders. Because the mechanism of transitioning is less fatal, except to your genitals and/or boobs, I don't think it will ever snatch anorexia's crown. We actually don't have data on trans mortality. The "40% suicide rate" is for ATTEMPTS, not completions.
Yeah, I really don't want people to think that anorexia is no big deal. It's horrifying and it does have the highest mortality rate of any sort of mental health diagnosis you can have.

While we don't have any studies on the long-term effects of HRT (the cohort is just not there yet for people who started transitioning while they're teens) I don't really think the effects would be that bad for transmen. Yeah, your hair falls out and you grow a beard and both of those never go away even if you stop taking testosterone, but the highest risk of HRT would be DHT production which spikes prostate cancer risk and thankfully transmen don't have them. As far as SRS goes, mastectomy is relatively safe but I don't know about the weird dicks they get installed. Seems like a probable infection risk.

Transwomen, on the other hand, well...estrogen could basically be classified as a fucking poison considering its biochemical effects. They're much worse off. There's a reason why HRT prescriptions to delay menopause got axed.
 

illhavetwo

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A massive chunk of failed attempts are determined attention-seeking, as well, and we all know how much troons love attention.
Troonery has high incidence of cluster B personality disorders.
"Cluster B personality disorders are characterized by dramatic, overly emotional or unpredictable thinking or behavior and interactions with others. They include antisocial personality disorder, borderline personality disorder, histrionic personality disorder and narcissistic personality disorder."
 

AnOminous

do you see what happens
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Troonery has high incidence of cluster B personality disorders.
"Cluster B personality disorders are characterized by dramatic, overly emotional or unpredictable thinking or behavior and interactions with others. They include antisocial personality disorder, borderline personality disorder, histrionic personality disorder and narcissistic personality disorder."
Cluster Bs are also often gigantic liars in addition to being completely intolerable freaks who should be discarded from society.
 

Cryin RN

True & Honest Fan
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Cluster Bs are also often gigantic liars in addition to being completely intolerable freaks who should be discarded from society.
Yep. God bless 'em. These forums will have endless content. Check out this future serial killer on r/mypartneristrans:
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Did you catch that? He's wearing his DEAD WIFE'S PANTIES. Like any good troon he's got an actual woman busting her ass so he can buy hair extensions or else his "temper" will flare up.

Wonder how the first wife died.
 

Casta Spersions

Who's the fairest of them all?
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It was either Gendertrender or 4thWaveNow that had the details on the troon (yes, it was an adult male contacting teenage girls) running one of the binder companies in Portland. I’ll do some digging later.
I think they both did posts on this person, I have the link for all the 4thwavenow posts tagged with his name:

4thwavenow.com/tag/jenn-burleton/

Troon in question is Jenn Burlyman Burleton, of Trans Active in Portland, which seems to focus on girls under 18 and how to supply them with breast crushers. I'm sure it would make Jenn happy if all females had breasts that looked like this:
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Note the actual place of the nipples; I think I originally thought they were at the very bottom the first time I saw this pic.
ETA: which, thinking about it, means they were probably magnificent. Not that it matters.
 
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