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Richard Meyer v. Mark Waid (2018)

Discussion in 'Lolcow & Lolcow LLP' started by damian, Sep 29, 2018.

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Waid Livestream - What will happen?

Poll closed Nov 7, 2018.
  1. Talks about the lawsuit.

    3 vote(s)
    8.1%
  2. Further incriminates himself.

    18 vote(s)
    48.6%
  3. Defames YaBoi again.

    5 vote(s)
    13.5%
  4. Doesn't talk about the lawsuit nor CG.

    2 vote(s)
    5.4%
  5. Host disagrees with Waid on something, chimpout insues.

    7 vote(s)
    18.9%
  6. Normal interview. (no drama)

    2 vote(s)
    5.4%
  1. Richard Meyer Sues Mark Waid Over ‘Tortious Interference With Contract and Defamation’
    Posted by Rich Johnston September 29, 2018 Comment
    The full court document runs below.
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    https://web.archive.org/web/2018093...id-tortious-interference-contract-defamation/

    Coincidentally Marvel has been taken out of his Facebook profile:
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    Mark Waid's Lawyer (What an unfortunate looking fellow):
    https://markzaid.com/
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    YaBoi's Lawyer (Reminds me of that 'Most Interesting Man in the World' guy, but older and less interesting):
    http://www.fbhg.law/daniel-h-byrne/
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    If you’re unfamiliar with Mark Waid and his antics please be sure to check his thread:
    https://kiwifarms.net/threads/mark-waid-william-mark-waid.43180/

    Nicky Racket’s Video discussing the possible lawsuit from a couple months ago:

    Recent video actually discussing the lawsuit:
     
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    #1 damian, Sep 29, 2018
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  2. So what will the defense's argument be, that Mark Waid totally didn't call Antarctic Press and intimidate them, or that he did, but it's somehow not a crime?
     
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  3. Something something he's a Nazi
    Something something moral obligation to inform AP
     
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  4. Egotistical Waid brought this on himself and deserves everything he might "get" after the case. Fuck Waid.
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    #4 GeneralFriendliness, Sep 30, 2018
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  5. We'll have to see the quality of Waid's lawyer. There is no 'witz', 'berg', or 'stein' in his name and that nose is looking pretty miniscule to expect a good legal defense.

    I imagine Waid going for a similar defense as Maddox's girlfriend. "Yes, but I was doing so to limit plaintiffs free speech." These types of think the law works like Twitter Thought Police and any action was justified if you call the person a Nazi first.
     
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  6. Nick Rekieta did a video on it. I haven't finished watching it though.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KtPEMVGUQAg

    Editing with my take on it
    Waid is a dumb fuck who bragged about breaking the law multiple times. I think it's ultimately gonna boil down to the political affiliation of the judge.
     
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    #6 Big Bad Fish, Sep 30, 2018
    Last edited: Sep 30, 2018
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  7. Some people have been arguing online that "Well, you need to prove it was Waid's call in particular that made them drop it. Waid just needs to show Meyer's YouTube to show he's an irredeemable Nazi . Hope your wallets are open as Meyer is an attention whore scam artist who sees his fans as walking ATMs".

    I don't think it works like that.
     
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  8. "Nazi" really needs to be libel per se.
     
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  9. This one is going to be fun just because comics pros love to autistically sperg on twitter. Both sides of the argument no less. Personally though I cannot wait to see SJWs realize that their Twitter mobs can have real world consequences. For them.
     
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  10. What's going to be extra interesting is how people react depending on who wins. Both outcomes would have some dreadful sperging either way but I feel Waid losing the case would be worse if only because the Pros obsession with political sperging will lead them down the road of the courts being a massive Trump conspiracy rather than any nuanced thought.
     
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  11. It's amazing to me how willfully stupid these people are. Meyer is not the defendant here, Waid is. Proving Meyer actually is an alt right Nazi bigot won't just make the lawsuit go away. The issue here is not the character of the people involved. The issue is Mark Waid calling Antarctic press and getting them to drop the contract with Meyer.
     
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  12. For the hundredth time:

    "Crime" is relevant in criminal trials. This is a civil action.
     
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  13. Yes, I know, get off my ass.
    I could say "violation of the law" or whatever, but when I say crime everyone knows what I mean, and it's a lot shorter.
    STFU, I'm SMDH Fam
     
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  14. A few more notes regarding common related errors:
    • Any reference to "innocent until proven guilty" is not relevant. That is not the standard for civil suits.
    • There is no prosector. There is a plaintiff, who has a lawyer. The state is not obliged to supply the defendant with a lawyer, although in some cases a defendant can get free representation.
    • Nobody is going to jail over this suit, nor will anyone cop a plea, nor are there "charges". The suit alleges various civil wrongs, which are provided for in law or by precedent.
    • There will be no grand jury, no indictment.
    These errors arise all the time in threads like this. Thought I'd head it off at the pass, especially since you are being so thick.

    Well, unless you're clearly a self-identified Nazi. If you call yourself one, I don't think it's defamation to take you at your word.

    These cases are of course a residue of the overall total, of course, so in general you're right.
     
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    #15 AprilRains, Sep 30, 2018
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  15. So it seems that Sherman Act violations are unlikely, but can a real lawyer tell me why respondeat superior isn't applied in Waid's case? The idea he isn't representing Marvel (and ultimately Disney) on his official Twitter is laughable.
     
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  16. Doesn't that fall under truth being a defense?
     
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  17. It certainly does.
     
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  18. If you were wondering who the legal experts Nicky Rackets mentions in his video discussing the lolsuit it this guy:
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    Nicky replies:
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  19. Not a lawyer, but from what I understand they can't use the Sherman because the lawsuit is focused primarily on Waid who is being sued in his personal capacity. Not in his capacity as an employee of Marvel. There is also some debate as to whether he even IS an employee of Marvel rather then just some dude they have a contract with. There is a legal distinction.

    Of course this is just the preliminary phase, and we have yet to reach discovery. If it turns out that Marvel execs/management knew about and/or encouraged Waids actions, then they could get sucked into the mess. From what I am seeing though Meyers lawyer wants to run a tight ship and go for what he can reasonably get, as opposed to going full Captain Ahab and hunt a white whale.
     
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