Careercow Richard Stallman / rms - Dirty old communist hobo lookalike who eats his own footskin. HURD release: Never

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it was a vicious hate crime
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so somebody just made a half assed node.js thingy that tracks people who signed the support letter
https://github.com/sticks-stuff/highlight-RMS-supporters/
as you can see, /g/ found it and its really going down well with them:
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(original threads where they found it)
https://boards.4channel.org/g/thread/80881965
https://archive.md/4jmWt
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update: so someone found an exploit in the name listing that let him inject whatever he wanted into the entry with his name, so he included a new background image:
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the image in question:
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More drama

Leah Rowe is a pro-rms build system engineer for the libreboot project, a boot loader that helps ensures privacy, security, and openness. She's also staging a coup because her co-contributers were like nah fuck rms

An excert from a letter from libreboot developers who do real work for the project:

It is with a heavy heart that I sit here today,
March 30, 2021 to inform you that Leah Rowe has effected a
second coup on the Libreboot project (yes, a *second* one)
as of Sunday March 28, 2021.

Leah has violated our principles of democratic governance
and removed myself (Andrew Robbins aka `and_who'), swiftgeek,
and Paul Kocialkowski (aka `paulk-leonov') from maintainership
without bringing it to a vote and has revoked all access to
Libreboot infrastructure (mail server and master repository).
In addition, she has removed all reference to our former
democratic governing structure and edited past news
announcements to make it appear as if none of us were ever
maintainers. No need to take my word for it as you can see
the changes reflected in the git log found at
https://notabug.org/libreboot/libreboot/commit/27fce189cd1cd9cc93494a76af558dae47557d50

It is of my firm opinion that Leah should step down from
Libreboot and transfer all control over the Libreboot
infrastructure, including domain ownership, to either myself
or swiftgeek and that she is never trusted to be a maintainer
for another community-led project ever again. I won't hold
my breath.

I don't say this lightly as I have given her a second chance
already, something which I have come to regret.

The first coup happened a few months ago (end of December 2020,
roughly) and was quietly dealt with and reverted soon after.
Unfortunately I don't have an exact date as my IRC client is not
configured to store the date in each timestamp but Leah and I
did speak privately after reinstatement and I made it clear that
coups were not acceptable and to not engage in that behavior
ever again, which she agreed to.


...

I am deeply hurt as a result of Leah's actions considering I began
contributing to Libreboot with the understanding that it was a
democratically-governed project. I truly regret spending my time
working with Leah in any capacity and no longer trust her at all.

Leah not only burnt a bridge with me, she burnt my bridge to free
software.

So long.

So anyways expect to see a libreboot fork that continues to get commits, while the OG fades away. BTW, Leah did a rage fork a few years ago and it, predictably, went nowhere.

https://archive.md/HZpKN
https://archive.md/lt4nw


real stable brain energy here

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Stallman's been removed from the GCC Steering Committees page:
GCC was the single most important contribution Stallman ever made to free software. Releasing a true free compiler at a time when compilers cost thousands of dollars was revolutionary and there wouldn't be a XNU or Linux without it.

You either die a hero, or you live long enough to see yourself be made the villain so that some tranny can steal the credit.
 

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GCC was the single most important contribution Stallman ever made to free software. Releasing a true free compiler at a time when compilers cost thousands of dollars was revolutionary and there wouldn't be a XNU or Linux without it.
gcc is over 30 years old. talk about coasting on your legacy
 
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SassyThursday

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gcc is over 30 years old. talk about coasting on your legacy
Its rare for someone to contribute to science/technology in a technical way after 30 or 40 and stallman is way past that.

This whole thing is a question of legacy, and how far stallman can coast on his legacy.
Its a shame hes a autist seperated by only sheer intelligence from uli, perhaps the whole free software movement wouldn't have happened if stallman got laid.
 

Norman B. Normal

I probably shouldn't be here.
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More drama

Leah Rowe is a pro-rms build system engineer for the libreboot project, a boot loader that helps ensures privacy, security, and openness. She's also staging a coup because her co-contributers were like nah fuck rms

An excert from a letter from libreboot developers who do real work for the project:



So anyways expect to see a libreboot fork that continues to get commits, while the OG fades away. BTW, Leah did a rage fork a few years ago and it, predictably, went nowhere.



real stable brain energy here

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I assume "Leah" is a tranny? This isn't the kind of autism you expect to see from a real woman.
 

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I assume "Leah" is a tranny? This isn't the kind of autism you expect to see from a real woman.
Unfortunately yes. For anyone else wondering, Francis Rowe transitioned to Leah Rowe sometime in 2016 (April the earliest).
It's kind of annoying that even DuckDuckGo scrubs pre-troon results but that's off topic autism. I had to dig in mailing lists that had the name hidden but the DDG result showed his name anyway...
EDIT: Ok I wasted several minutes of my day because we already had a thread on him here anyway kek
 
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Nathan Higgers

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Its rare for someone to contribute to science/technology in a technical way after 30 or 40 and stallman is way past that.

This whole thing is a question of legacy, and how far stallman can coast on his legacy.
Its a shame hes a autist seperated by only sheer intelligence from uli, perhaps the whole free software movement wouldn't have happened if stallman got laid.
Not only is Stallman past that, the GNU project itself hasn't made any worthwhile software in the past 20 years. Both the FSF and GNU are way too invested in activism (i.e. bitching about people not calling their OS GANOO SLASH LINUCKS) that they have forgotten the initial reason for their existence. One would think they would hold contests etc. to get people to write new free software, but nah, better spend all the money on sending Stallman to more autistic conferences so he can go on autistic tirades about how it should be called GANOO SLASH LINUCKS.
 

GreeneCoDeputy

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He didn't defend Epstein, he condemned Epstein. He did defend his (dead, by then) friend Minksy, by saying that 'assault' was possibly an incorrect verb to use, if the (17? 19? year old) female presented as willing and Minsky had no reason to think otherwise. If that even happened, given Minsky's wife said she was with him the whole time. He does seem to be guilty of wrongthink regarding whether consensual sex with someone that (because of their age, in some jurisdictions) is statutory rape should be called rape, given how loaded that word is.

I think he wrote an essay objecting to the use of the pronoun 'they' with non-binaries due to the ambiguity in some sentences with multiple subjects, and that it's already used in English as a plural, and suggested his own pronoun instead?

My takeaway is that he seems very particular about accurate use of English and will correct people in situations where non-autistic people would have massive mental alarm bells screaming not to get involved or say anything. Same with his sense of humour. Probably made a joke about pollen being plant spunk and getting some up his nose, which makes him guilty of some kind of nasal sex with plants fetish.
It's such peak 2020s "acceptable target" aggression when people decide that RMS is "problematic" or whatever because he didn't immediately start screeching like a pod person when someone made a serious accusation against a longtime friend and probably someone Stallman respected.

The notion that Stallman was somehow accusing Epstein victims of partial responsibility is completely off base from his actual words and magically no one produces these alleged comments when they are slandering the man.

I could be guilty as Stallman here because I knew of Minsky only from his work in the CS/AI field before any of this came out and wasn't going to come out swinging based on some vague accusation.

Of course the "whistleblower" (archive) had no such affiliation with Minsky and she's entitled to her opinion but all the people slandering Stallman should at least have the decency to include what he actually said instead of relying on innuendo and outrage to cancel the man.

Stallman isn't an attorney, he's an autistic person so he conflates the crime of "sexual assault" with the idea of a violent attack, a flawed premise that he then comments on. He was out of his depth and shouldn't have said it but he was trying to be charitable to the memory of a friend.

The announcement of the Friday event does an injustice to Marvin
Minsky:
“deceased AI ‘pioneer’ Marvin Minsky (who is accused of assaulting
one of Epstein’s victims [2])”

The injustice is in the word “assaulting”. The term “sexual assault”
is so vague and slippery that it facilitates accusation inflation:
taking claims that someone did X and leading people to think of it as
Y, which is much worse than X.

The accusation quoted is a clear example of inflation. The reference
reports the claim that Minsky had sex with one of Epstein’s harem.
(See https://www.theverge.com/2019/8/9/2...sex-trafficking-island-court-records-unsealed.)

Let’s presume that was true (I see no reason to disbelieve it).
The word “assaulting” presumes that he applied force or violence, in
some unspecified way, but the article itself says no such thing.
Only that they had sex.

We can imagine many scenarios, but the most plausible scenario is that
she presented herself to him as entirely willing. Assuming she was
being coerced by Epstein, he would have had every reason to tell her
to conceal that from most of his associates.

I’ve concluded from various examples of accusation inflation that it
is absolutely wrong to use the term “sexual assault” in an accusation.
Whatever conduct you want to criticize, you should describe it with a
specific term that avoids moral vagueness about the nature of the
criticism.

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Not only is Stallman past that, the GNU project itself hasn't made any worthwhile software in the past 20 years. Both the FSF and GNU are way too invested in activism (i.e. bitching about people not calling their OS GANOO SLASH LINUCKS) that they have forgotten the initial reason for their existence. One would think they would hold contests etc. to get people to write new free software, but nah, better spend all the money on sending Stallman to more autistic conferences so he can go on autistic tirades about how it should be called GANOO SLASH LINUCKS.
eh i kinda have an explanation for that, and what it comes down to is "userspace". Specifically, where is the user?

FSF is from an era, and has the skillsets for, building tools and utilities for multi-user systems where a unit of work is abstracted into "processes" by "users". The majority of applications today only use that abstraction to host their runtime, and instead use other abstractions for identity and workload management. For example: you don't log into kiwifarms with a desktop application that uses your kerberos identity, you use a web browser (and kiwifarms own authentication).

Very few systems/endpoints today are multi user in the traditional sense - how often do you let other people use your phone, or laptop? And in the instances where you do set up another user account on those devices, how often is someone else using it at the same time you are?

This represents an out-dated way of thinking about how a computer is used, but is how the FSF largely still thinks about their projects and utilities. The GNU userspace is hardly used by the majority of people as anything other than a way to accomplish their job - versus 20 years ago, where if you used computers for work/hobby, you were likely using these tools heavily and daily and to a richer capacity; often, even actively contributing small patches back to the then-primitive tools!

If the FSF were to bring their mission up to date with the modern world, they'd probably be doing things like funding and supporting Libre operating systems for mobile, providing identity provider services (like google and facebook do), and running/hosting/building federated (and libre!) "userspace" utilities like identity aware proxy, and encrypted web-based data support via key management via said identity provider.

Instead, those crucial alternatives simply don't exist, or in some cases, are being poorly implemented out of what I'd describe as desperation - mastodon is a piece of shit, but it's an important piece of shit and a glimpse into what a good future could look like.

So anyways, all this culture war bullshit doesn't matter if you look at it pragmatically: Instead of building a vision for the future, rms still refuses to use web browsers. He spends all his time posting about how actually the groomed epstein women were actually consenting and helps the FSF make the news for "defending pedophilia". He's bad at his job, has no vision of the future, and actively sabotages the good name of the Free Software Foundation. And yeah, probably a lot of his opponents are acting in bad faith for culture war bullshit reasons (although personally I think most of their points are valid, and I'm sure a lot of people here disagree with me). But, brass tacks, that's why he's got to go.

autistic reactions only, thank you

The notion that Stallman was somehow accusing Epstein victims of partial responsibility is completely off base from his actual words and magically no one produces these alleged comments when they are slandering the man.
When referring to a woman who was groomed and human trafficked: "We can imagine many scenarios, but the most plausible scenario is that she presented herself to him as entirely willing."

"She was asking for it" is not a fight that someone directing an influential organization should be picking. In combination with his other writings on sexual abuse and pedophilia (one of the key things that was revealed in Epstein's court case), it paints a very negative picture.

Regardless of how ambiguous you think this statement is, it's clearly a fight he shouldn't have picked especially considering his position in MIT. At the very least, it demonstrates a serious lapse in judgement from someone in a senior leadership position.
 

GreeneCoDeputy

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When referring to a woman who was groomed and human trafficked: "We can imagine many scenarios, but the most plausible scenario is that she presented herself to him as entirely willing."

"She was asking for it" is not a fight that someone directing an influential organization should be picking. In combination with his other writings on sexual abuse and pedophilia (one of the key things that was revealed in Epstein's court case), it paints a very negative picture.

Regardless of how ambiguous you think this statement is, it's clearly a fight he shouldn't have picked especially considering his position in MIT. At the very least, it demonstrates a serious lapse in judgement from someone in a senior leadership position.
Are you being disingenuous or are you just retarded?

Women being trafficked present themselves as willing all the time because if they don't, they are likely to suffer the wrath of their traffickers.

Have you seen a porn where the woman seems to be really into it? Are you so autistic that you think that all pornstars want to be doing that?
 

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Are you being disingenuous or are you just retarded?

Women being trafficked present themselves as willing all the time because if they don't, they are likely to suffer the wrath of their traffickers.
Are you being disingenuous or are you just retarded?

He said "imagine", RMS doesn't even know what the fuck he's talking about by his own admission. He's just interjecting his opinion pointlessly.

Anyways you're just confirming my point, which is that RMS' job at the FSF is not to create and inflame needless controversy, which is literally what's happening right now in this thread. His job is to promote Libre software and build good will for the FSF and the movement that it supports. Instead it's causing a bunch of autists on both sides of the spectrum to screech at each other for weeks. He's bad at his job.

Are you so autistic that you think that all pornstars want to be doing that?
Yes.
 

GreeneCoDeputy

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Are you being disingenuous or are you just retarded?

He said "imagine", RMS doesn't even know what the fuck he's talking about by his own admission. He's just interjecting his opinion pointlessly.
Yeah. That's what I said. He was out of his depth and he shouldn't have said what he said.

What he actually said. Not this bizarre version that you insist on.

He was quibbling over the term "assault" and he said it's possible that she presented as willing because he had difficulty believing that his friend would use violence.

What he didn't say was "she was asking for it" which has a specific idiomatic connotation that you are almost certainly aware of beyond her literally asking for sex in the context of being trafficked and underage.
 

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Not this bizarre version that you insist on.
I'm loosely trying not to interpret what he says and instead focus on the controversy and drama in this thread (for a reason)

He was quibbling over the term "assault" and he said it's possible that she presented as willing because he had difficulty believing that his friend would use violence.

What he didn't say was "she was asking for it" which has a specific idiomatic connotation that you are almost certainly aware of beyond her literally asking for sex in the context of being trafficked and underage.
You're reading into shit that isn't there. Please refrain from receiving your second vaccine dose, thank you.
 
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You know I think many people would understand RMS stepping down if it was presented in a more sane manner (old age, need someone with a fresh view, better leadership, etc) but the fact that it's just the usual -ism name calling makes this entire situation insufferable. Like holy shit just say you don't like him and go, you don't need to write an entire memoir about how sexist and transphobic he is because he attempts to ask women out poorly and argues over pronoun definitions.
The state of the free software community right now over what really just boils down to an old fat autistic guy being old fat and autistic is seriously pathetic.
 

Nathan Higgers

You can call me Nate.
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Yeah. That's what I said. He was out of his depth and he shouldn't have said what he said.
Anyways you're just confirming my point, which is that RMS' job at the FSF is not to create and inflame needless controversy, which is literally what's happening right now in this thread. His job is to promote Libre software and build good will for the FSF and the movement that it supports. Instead it's causing a bunch of autists on both sides of the spectrum to screech at each other for weeks. He's bad at his job.
Stallman posts 1000 political notes a day and also participates in a dozen autistic mailing lists daily, he is bound to have a bad take somewhere (just like every other living human being), to want to completely cancel someone over a supposed bad take is absolutely retarded.

Needless to say, I don't even find this particular take bad, of all the things you could cancel Stallman for, this one is the dumbest. It's one of those things where you have play so much mental gymnastics and use the third definition of every word to make it sound bad. What he said in that email is considered bad by the people who accuse you of rape if you ask out a girl who doesn't like you.

To say that "well, he shouldn't have said that, it was a bad take, blablaba" is disingenuous. Back in the 80s they said you shouldn't try to give away your code for free because its communism, "you shouldn't do that". You can't ask people to stop thinking, discussing and debating topics because it hurts the fee-fees of some troon or a landwhale.

That said, Stallman himself is a wokester who is getting outwoked by other wokesters. In regular circumstances I'd happily enjoy seeing these faggots destroy each other, just not this time.
 
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