Right-wing apathy - I just wanna grill, dammit!

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You should know by basic observation that left-wing boycotts tend to be far more effective than right-wing ones. But why is that exactly?
It's certainly not just because there's more lefties, the right are not that far off from being half of the country.
It may be because of some sort of conspiracy, but fuck off schizo.
It may be because of the left tends towards more collectivist ideas and so can more effectively organize that the more individualistic right. This is close.

I think it's sheer apathy the ruins the right. They already feel defeated and can only reeee into the void as the world changes around them. Meanwhile, the left sees themselves as the inevitable future and are quick to form a cohesive group to exact change on their perceived enemies. The right seeks to exclude themselves from society while the left has BECOME society. This is downright suicidal and will only lead to more left-wing policies being enacted, both in government and in business and education. Like sheep to the slaughter, the right lets the world shift beneath their feet while the left is happy to enact those changes. The small number of right-wing individuals who do fight back are but a speed bump. The right seems happy to just let the country fall out of their hands so long as they can enjoy what they have today. Are they niggers with a high time preference?

What is the solution? How can the right begin to do anything more than sperg about social ills on the internet or at their local church or whatever?
 

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That's the simple nature of basing your ideas on being reactionary rather then being proactive. Largely the right responds rather then sets the terms itself, immediately placing the narrative power to the left. Being more conservative or simply voting right wing won't fix this, but people on the right equate some degree of institutional power with success, but even the most socdem breadtuber will tell you Biden needs to improve and realize that in the grand scheme of things he does little to move his side forward, much like Donald Trump.
Stop accepting table scraps.
 

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The biggest problem with the Right and Conservatism as a whole is not apathy, it's not energy, it's not collective power, and frankly, it's not anything actually listed in the OP. The biggest problem is money. Where the money is going. Who is being allowed to have it, and when.

In the United States, Millennials, as a group, own 3% of the wealth. The rest of it is going to Wall Street cocksuckers.

People are not conservative when they have nothing to conserve and, frankly, nothing to lose. Nothing makes someone into a dedicated conservative faster than attaining a steady and stable upper-middle-class lifestyle, and that's only possible if people are paid a decent wage.

The ones who set the political narrative in the US are the people who decide that your wages should be peanuts, so that you become restless and radicalized.

Meanwhile, when right-wing and conservative projects attempt to seek funding, even crowdfunding, they are deplatformed and debanked. Remember when people tried making a right-wing Patreon alternative? That lasted all of a few minutes. Hatreon was shut down when Visa refused to tender their payments and Digital Ocean canceled their hosting.

If you want power, you need money. If you want recruits, you need money. If you want conservative, stable, trad families, they need to be paid more than subsistence wages. Money, money, money.
 

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That's the simple nature of basing your ideas on being reactionary rather then being proactive. Largely the right responds rather then sets the terms itself, immediately placing the narrative power to the left. Being more conservative or simply voting right wing won't fix this, but people on the right equate some degree of institutional power with success, but even the most socdem breadtuber will tell you Biden needs to improve and realize that in the grand scheme of things he does little to move his side forward, much like Donald Trump.
Stop accepting table scraps.
I know I'm going a bit off topic, but what ARE your political views?
I know you don't like Trump; I know you're not a fan of Jews. I've taken note of you (as I'm sure all the other politispergs have) and I take note when you enter a thread., But can you give a quick synopsis of what it is you believe? Just curious...
 
I would say it's a mixture of apathy, not taking all this seriously and just not having firm power anywhere. The left wing sees the right wing as pure evil, and so does everything they can to stomp it out, while the right wing is either stuck in the "SJW'S OWN EPIC STYLE" era or blackpilled.
As for what there can be done to stop this? Nothing. That time was decades ago, and it's too late now. All the right wing can do now is rant and sulk about the fallen state of America while doing as much as possible to keep themselves and the people they care about safe.
 

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The small number of right-wing individuals who do fight back are but a speed bump.
Well, between controlled opposition that claims to speak on your behalf, a hostile media that will slander you along with your self-appointed representatives as every -ist and -phobe under the sun if you try to get out from under their "representation" of you, and an ever-increasing amount of censorship online, yeah I'd say we're a group that's pretty much fucked from actually ever speaking out in any meaningful way.

And the ones that do toe the party line are effectively eunuchs, neutered and lead around by the nose by the likes of people like Sean Hannity, Limbaugh, Tucker, etc. who are purely reactive because to actually be proactive or attempt to protest anything leads to crackdowns and life-ruination. Which leads me into my next point:
The right seems happy to just let the country fall out of their hands so long as they can enjoy what they have today. Are they niggers with a high time preference?
At this point? Fuck it let them create in what they see as hell, themselves their own "heaven". Let them get exactly what they want and when they get it just have the pleasant satisfaction of "I told you so" as the pendulum swings the other way with gusto. There's no arguing with these people and thus the only way shit is going to change is when they finally meet the consequences of their politics in full with no escape.
What is the solution? How can the right begin to do anything more than sperg about social ills on the internet or at their local church or whatever?
There is no solution. Life is tricky in that it's full of both questions and problems to which there are either no answers or at least none that are satisfactory. Most of the people I talk to outside of this site about politics, when I bother to, have basically accepted the old "focus on what you can change, your family and what's going on in your life, and prepare for the future" mantra. I have as well.
 

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There is a multitude of reasons but I think a lot of it comes down to:

-Big corporations are run by commiejews who support the far left.
-Ditto for media, thus getting the word out is heavily biased for the left.
-Fundies are dumb ass motherfuckers.
-The obsession with being "proper and respectful" .

But the biggest problem is that the right doesn't embrace its fringe. The left does and gains a fanatical army. Maybe not the biggest, nor the smartest, but certainly loud and energetic.
However since WW2 ended, the right has been hamstrung and debilitated.
 

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Pushing a leftist agenda doesn't put you at risk in any way, it's socially, economically, professionally profitable. You have almost all the MSM, big tech and other companies with you. All celebrities, actors, the cool guys. Jews. Of course, for many it's just a posture, yet it's trending, and it conquers. The right only reacts afterwards, often conceding what the left just took and simply trying to prevent something worse from happening.

I think it's mostly because people on the right, overall, as wide as this term is, are less vehement and prone to boycott/censorship. They are also, sadly, not actually racist and will get enchanted by the first racial stranger whose speech they will find endearing or flattering. They'll reject "radical" or "extremist" views, because they don't want to be on the fringes, even if such radical changes would be needed.

They are afraid to lose what they already have. Their money, their comfort. They wish things would stay more or less this way, or the way they were when they were younger, even if they were already flawed. All working alternatives to the current system are demonised. Cuckservatives are often as antifascist as the leftists are. They'll even call the latter fascists.

There is no "solution", major changes will only come with some sort of collapse, of which I can neither predict the date nor the cause.
Meanwhile, the most viable thing to do is probably to strengthen your own family and community, to retreat to the countryside or in areas with people that you can easily trust and work with, to officiously secede and try not to fuel this rotten system anymore.
 
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There is a multitude of reasons but I think a lot of it comes down to:

-Big corporations are run by commiejews who support the far left.
-Ditto for media, thus getting the word out is heavily biased for the left.
-Fundies are dumb ass motherfuckers.
-The obsession with being "proper and respectful" .

But the biggest problem is that the right doesn't embrace its fringe. The left does and gains a fanatical army. Maybe not the biggest, nor the smartest, but certainly loud and energetic.
However since WW2 ended, the right has been hamstrung and debilitated.
Pushing a leftist agenda doesn't put you at risk in any way, it's socially, economically, professionally profitable. You have almost all the MSM, big tech and other companies with you. All celebrities, actors, the cool guys. Jews. Of course, for many it's just a posture, yet it's trending, and it conquers. The right only reacts afterwards, often conceding what the left just took and simply trying to prevent something worse from happening.

I think it's mostly because people on the right, overall, as wide as this term is, are less vehement and prone to boycott/censorship. They are also, sadly, not actually racist and will get enchanted by the first racial stranger whose speech they will find endearing or flattering. They'll reject "radical" or "extremist" views, because they don't want to be on the fringes, even if such radical changes would be needed.

They are afraid to lose what they already have. Their money, their comfort. They wish things would stay more or less this way, or the way they were when they were younger, even if they were already flawed. All working alternatives to the current system are demonised. Cuckservatives are often as antifascist as the leftists are. They'll even call the latter fascists.

There is no "solution", major changes will only come with some sort of collapse, of which I can neither predict the date nor the cause.
Meanwhile, the most viable thing to do is probably to strengthen your own family and community, to retreat to the countryside or in areas with people that you can easily trust and work with, to officiously secede and try not to fuel this rotten system anymore.
There's also the issue of the right wing still thinking that you argue with left wingers, even when they openly say they don't want you to explain your side, they just want you gone or dead.
It's even managed to reach this site.
 

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There's also the issue of the right wing still thinking that you argue with left wingers, even when they openly say they don't want you to explain your side, they just want you gone or dead.
It's even managed to reach this site.
I can discuss, I don't care, even if I agree that wasting time in useless debates is not worth it.
Whether they effectively want to kill us or not, this is what their agenda is leading to anyway. Demography is the key word. Whites are being replaced everywhere.
 

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You should know by basic observation that left-wing boycotts tend to be far more effective than right-wing ones. But why is that exactly?
It's certainly not just because there's more lefties, the right are not that far off from being half of the country.
It may be because of some sort of conspiracy, but fuck off schizo.
It may be because of the left tends towards more collectivist ideas and so can more effectively organize that the more individualistic right. This is close.

I think it's sheer apathy the ruins the right. They already feel defeated and can only reeee into the void as the world changes around them. Meanwhile, the left sees themselves as the inevitable future and are quick to form a cohesive group to exact change on their perceived enemies. The right seeks to exclude themselves from society while the left has BECOME society. This is downright suicidal and will only lead to more left-wing policies being enacted, both in government and in business and education. Like sheep to the slaughter, the right lets the world shift beneath their feet while the left is happy to enact those changes. The small number of right-wing individuals who do fight back are but a speed bump. The right seems happy to just let the country fall out of their hands so long as they can enjoy what they have today. Are they niggers with a high time preference?

What is the solution? How can the right begin to do anything more than sperg about social ills on the internet or at their local church or whatever?
It's almost as if the right are the heel half of the enforced false dictonomy, which, is deepy characteristic of all of their lies.

Labor is slavery. Money is fake. Society is a Social Construct.
Fame is arbitrary. God is dead. Human History is a work of Fiction.
 

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I know I'm going a bit off topic, but what ARE your political views?
I know you don't like Trump; I know you're not a fan of Jews. I've taken note of you (as I'm sure all the other politispergs have) and I take note when you enter a thread., But can you give a quick synopsis of what it is you believe? Just curious...
Pretty sure APC once said he jerks it to BBC soy-boy cuckold porn, so thats about as far as his political views go.
 

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Batshit Evangelicals hold conservatives back, the conservatives are stretched too thin fighting the left over losing battles just to appease that conservative base.

Not to mention Right wingers like to run away to sites where they can talk shit about niggers, Spics and Chinks which only alienates potential conservative minorities from ever wanting to associate with the faggotry, and as minority groups grow larger the faggotry is only keeping various conservative groups from banding together.

I'd give up on some political battles and double down on others.
 

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It's the result of censorship. In 2016 right wing could fight back and did so successfully by electing Donald Trump. It didn't matter that progressives lied about him or lied about them, because their voice could still be heard and so they could refute the lies and mock their critics and get the word out there. Then big tech and big media decided "that shouldn't be allowed anymore" and now information is suppressed, and so their ability to affect anything is crippled.

There's also the issue of the right wing still thinking that you argue with left wingers, even when they openly say they don't want you to explain your side, they just want you gone or dead.
It's even managed to reach this site.
Four years ago, they didn't have a choice. They had to argue, because otherwise they lost (and they didn't want to argue, they just wanted to destroy their opposition, so they lost). This is no longer the case. The left can be free to believe all their lies, and the right is no longer able to refute them, because the subreddits where they mock leftist hate are banned, the youtube channels where they highlight this shit is only watched by them and filtered away for anyone else, facebook censors and remove them, alternatives they attempt to build are only used by a fraction of people, news that support their position is not just suppressed but actively ignored by the left.
 
I can discuss, I don't care, even if I agree that wasting time in useless debates is not worth it.
Whether they effectively want to kill us or not, this is what their agenda is leading to anyway. Demography is the key word. Whites are being replaced everywhere.
Four years ago, they didn't have a choice. They had to argue, because otherwise they lost (and they didn't want to argue, they just wanted to destroy their opposition, so they lost). This is no longer the case. The left can be free to believe all their lies, and the right is no longer able to refute them, because the subreddits where they mock leftist hate are banned, the youtube channels where they highlight this shit is only watched by them and filtered away for anyone else, facebook censors and remove them, alternatives they attempt to build are only used by a fraction of people, news that support their position is not just suppressed but actively ignored by the left.
That's true.
As for what I said about it reaching this site, I was talking about all the people asking for A&H to get deleted and all of it's users to be banned. Or that one user who reported users to the FBI because they were threadbanned for wishing death on Trump supporters.
 

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You should know by basic observation that left-wing boycotts tend to be far more effective than right-wing ones.
Which ones?
The left's Goya boycott didn't do shit.
I think both parties tend to suck at it. Sure, the left is more organized than the right due to the right's heavy worship of "individuality" over the left's collectivist mentality, but that hardly works and they know it. The best they can do is brand any opposition as racist, even if it makes no sense and they dilute the word more each instance.
To think there's lunatics who think Zack's Justice League or the Sonic the Hedgehog do-over was a ploy and triumph of right-wingers...
Right-wingers didn't win shit; consoomers did. And most consoomers tend to be moderates who think politics is the same now as it was in 1964.

For people who say the right doesn't have any power, what happened to all your guns and farmland?
The reality is most right wingers are pussies hiding behind their "don't tread on me" attitude while letting those they deem immoral and wrong run the whole show.
 
There's also the issue of the right wing being desperate for friends, hence the "baste minority/baste gay/baste tranny/baste woman" meme comes from, and that desperation causes them to support people and causes that are completely against what they say they support.
 

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I don't even consoom anything I could boycott. I spend my money on organic meat, free range non-gmo eggs, sweet potatoes and milk. I also buy books, knives and gold. These expenses are a small fraction of my income, I live austerely and prefer to invest than consoom. Whenever I think about buying some consumer's good my inner Scrooge McDuck takes the wheel and I end up not buying it. There's nothing there to boycott.

Leftists are retarded and spend immense amounts of money on video games, children's toys, fast "food", processed "food", movies, 25 different streaming services, useless tech gadgets etc. etc. Of course none of these things made by small local businesses, all by dystopian megacorps. Leftoids are the most trusted soldiers of Consoomerism so naturally their "boycotts" are more important
 
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