Robert Chandler's Military Service -

[garbageraider]

What do we collectively know about Robert Chandler's military service? All I've heard is that he served in the United States Army in the Signal Corps, and was stationed somewhere in Korea either during the Korean War or sometime close to that period. What do we know as fact about his service, and what can reasonably be inferred?
P.S. What sort of benefits did Bob receive as a Veteran, and how did that affect his later life, retirement, Chris' life and upbringing, and the Chandler's financial situation?

 

[A-Stump]

He was probably just some southern guy who didn't really have much education at the time and joined up as a way to make a living and see the world. It's not really that uncommon a story...And probably doesn't hold much more weight than that.

 

[Henry Bemis]

What do we collectively know about Robert Chandler's military service? All I've heard is that he served in the United States Army in the Signal Corps, and was stationed somewhere in Korea either during the Korean War or sometime close to that period. What do we know as fact about his service, and what can reasonably be inferred?
P.S. What sort of benefits did Bob receive as a Veteran, and how did that affect his later life, retirement, Chris' life and upbringing, and the Chandler's financial situation?

Korea was probably the extent of his service, as he went to school on the G.I. Bill and seemed to have gone into GE soon after.

The only thing we can reasonably infer from his service in regards to the Chandlers as a whole is that it's had an impact on Chris's already-skewed notions of patriotism. If you didn't already think Chris was a lionhearted upstanding 'Murican citizen, wait till he tells you about how he too served in Korea while inside Bob's testicular particulars, like he did on the Emily date. (Whether or not Chris meant this as a joke is unknown; his other stupid beliefs about sperm make it hard to tell.)

 

[garbageraider]

If you really want to know about his service record, those are publicly available.

Where at?

What do we collectively know about Robert Chandler's military service? All I've heard is that he served in the United States Army in the Signal Corps, and was stationed somewhere in Korea either during the Korean War or sometime close to that period. What do we know as fact about his service, and what can reasonably be inferred?
P.S. What sort of benefits did Bob receive as a Veteran, and how did that affect his later life, retirement, Chris' life and upbringing, and the Chandler's financial situation?

Korea was probably the extent of his service, as he went to school on the G.I. Bill and seemed to have gone into GE soon after.

The only thing we can reasonably infer from his service in regards to the Chandlers as a whole is that it's had an impact on Chris's already-skewed notions of patriotism. If you didn't already think Chris was a lionhearted upstanding 'Murican citizen, wait till he tells you about how he too served in Korea while inside Bob's testicular particulars, like he did on the Emily date. (Whether or not Chris meant this as a joke is unknown; his other stupid beliefs about sperm make it hard to tell.)

Chris is very patriotic, all right:

Spoiler

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[Batman]

If you really want to know about his service record, those are publicly available.

Where at?

A simple Google search for 'US military records' will yield something. There's the government site but I think you have to be family or a representative. There are various sites that will allow you to look at a person's various records, including Birth/Death certificates, Marriage/Divorce records and Military records. If all that fails, you probably could file a FOIA request.

If you really want to know, of course.

 

[garbageraider]

If you really want to know, of course.

I am interested. Service Records are usually pretty dry documents, but there could always be something interesting or surprising in there. With the Chandlers, you never know.
Wait a second. :idea: In fact, do we actually have any hard evidence that Robert Chandler WAS a Veteran at all? Given that the Chandlers have a history of unwarranted self importance and delusions of grandeur, is it possible that Bob fabricated a myth of military service to satisfy his own ego or for other reasons?

 

[DustyR]

If you really want to know about his service record, those are publicly available.

Where at?

Don't have the time or interest to do it, but I'll try and get you started, Big Daddy.
http://www.archives.gov/veterans/
It is probably on Request Personnel and/or Medical Records Online.

Now let me tell you something, Mean Gene. REad the instructions. It is gonna ask for some vital information on Robert Chandler, such as his social security and service #. I know there are places you can do reports on people to get their social security #. That is one way to do it. I don't know if they still do it since he is deceased, but I will leave that to you. That is gonna cost ya something money there, Boy. You gonna need some other info such as service #. Not sure where you will find that. Probably in some public database or trick Chris into giving it to you. It says date and place of birth might be acceptable if service # is not known. Branch of service.

Now there's limits on who can get this. Since he is deceased, it is gonna be next to kin, so if you submit this request, you will have to lie, and that is probably a federal crime, Boy. It is also a good idea to have info on why you want it - researching personal military history.

Now listen good, boy. If you are gonna pretend to be next of kin, you need Robert Chandler's death certificate, a notice from a funeral home, or a publish obituary to include. I recommend doing it via mail or fax, not online.

Read and follow all instructions online for the method you choose, and you should be able to obtain Bob's records.

 

[Picklechu]

Wait a second. :idea: In fact, do we actually have any hard evidence that Robert Chandler WAS a Veteran at all? Given that the Chandlers have a history of unwarranted self importance and delusions of grandeur, is it possible that Bob fabricated a myth of military service to satisfy his own ego or for other reasons?

Even back in the day, I doubt Bob would have able to afford to go to whatever small school and then cow college (i.e. Auburn) without the GI Bill, so I doubt his service was faked.

 

[A-Stump]

Why don't you guys just instead stop being autistics and let dead men lie

 

[qld]

I found the social security number, it took all of two minutes. https://www.dobsearch.com/death-records/view.php?t=1390547775&searchnum=167014987935

It's in that short list somewhere, if you're really interested, you'll have no trouble picking it out.

 

[DustyR]

I found the social security number, it took all of two minutes. https://www.dobsearch.com/death-records/view.php?t=1390547775&searchnum=167014987935

It's in that short list somewhere, if you're really interested, you'll have no trouble picking it out.

Well, now! Good work.
It is #11 on the list.

 

[garbageraider]

Robert Chandler's service records will not become a matter of public record until 62 years after his discharge/seperation. So it looks like we'll have to wait a few more years until the records are public. Also,

"Your request must contain certain basic information for us to locate your service records. This information includes:
The veteran's complete name used while in service
Service number
Social security number
Branch of service
Dates of service
Date and place of birth (especially if the service number is not known).
If you suspect your records may have been involved in the 1973 fire, also include: Place of discharge
Last unit of assignment
Place of entry into the service, if known."

 

[qld]

Robert Chandler's service records will not become a matter of public record until 62 years after his discharge/seperation. So it looks like we'll have to wait a few more years until the records are public. Also,

"Your request must contain certain basic information for us to locate your service records. This information includes:
The veteran's complete name used while in service
Service number
Social security number
Branch of service
Dates of service
Date and place of birth (especially if the service number is not known).
If you suspect your records may have been involved in the 1973 fire, also include: Place of discharge
Last unit of assignment
Place of entry into the service, if known."

I received duplicates of my grandfather's medals from WWII about three years ago. I knew the name, looked the social up on a site like I looked Bob Chandler's up on, knew the branch of service, and that's about all I provided. Not only did they send me records, they sent duplicate full-sized, regulation, engraved (albeit modern) medals.
I was supposed to be the veteran's child to get all that, but I simply stated I was and no questions asked. Probably did help that we had the same last name.

Point is, it wouldn't be that hard to try it with anyone you pick (especially dead) if you have a name, social and branch of service. I'm not interested in doing it, but I am making the point that the records people are probably swamped, underfunded and uninterested in running checks on the people requesting records. I'm not into forgery and fraud that's not justifiable, and I don't think Bob's case justifies the attempt. There's probably not a damned thing of interest in those records.

 

[garbageraider]

I do wish to respect privacy rights. Thing is, Bob's dead, and none of his living relatives are or were close to him, and probably don't care. I'm not trying to be rude, prying, or morbid, I'm just curious and would be interested in taking a peek to see if there's anything interesting, that's all. He probably didn't do anything too outstanding, otherwise, being a Chandler, he would have blabbed on and on about it to no end.

 

[drmccoy]

From what I can tell, Bob was drafted in 1946-1947 and after basic was assigned to a signal company that was part of the pre-1950 Korean Military Advosory Group (KMAG). He missed the war, I'm positive as the average draftee did two years at the time. From listening to his conversations and Chris's broken narrative I think he was involved in setting up the ROK's communication infrastructure. He would been eligible for the VA and the GI Bill.

There's practically nothing out there on post WW 2, pre Korean servicemen. I can find the service numbers of any WW2 vet but nothing else. I'll add to this when I get to a real key board but we're probably doomed to never know anything about Bob's service because Chrarb barely knows. Bob's service has passed into myth and legend, essentially.

 

[CatParty]

isn't the army what taught him to be a gun hoarding, racist, repressed homosexual? or was that his love of jazz music?

 

[Some JERK]

edit: nevermind. I realized that i don't care.

 

[DustyR]

You simply need to assert you are next of kin. Not all sons or daughters have the same last name, and even if you used Chris or Barb's name and a different address, I doubt they would know any better. I get the impression these are all hard copy records in a physical archive, not something they pull up on a computer. Shit is old school. They don't have a list of wrong or right answers for next of kin. How could they know? They don't know how many kids Robert has fathered. The social security and service # are to help prove you are supposed to have access to that information and help them locate it. So if you do not have the service #, it is best to provide as much information as possible, such as branch, period, etc. (follow the instructions online). My impression is they are probably filed by service # and branch, but they probably can look the service # up with enough information.'

You probably would also want to be specific, again, about what information you want as well as the reason why. You might say all medical and personnel records, and the reason why could be you are writing a very detailed family history or biography (he did invent patents, after all). That let's them know that no shit is too minor. There are fees, and so the more info you want, the more it will cost, but you can read about it on the site.

 

[hellbound]

I do wish to respect privacy rights. Thing is, Bob's dead, and none of his living relatives are or were close to him, and probably don't care. I'm not trying to be rude, prying, or morbid, I'm just curious and would be interested in taking a peek to see if there's anything interesting, that's all. He probably didn't do anything too outstanding, otherwise, being a Chandler, he would have blabbed on and on about it to no end.

I HIGHLY doubt he did anything interesting above and beyond your standard Signal Corps member. We know he was drafted, which means he probably served his obligated 2 years, and then went to college.

 

[garbageraider]

You simply need to assert you are next of kin.

Let me correct that for you.

You simply need to assert you are next of kin commit fraud.

Why do that when there are more subtle ways to obtain that information?