Rose McGowan - (Please visit the Andi Dier thread in Sisterwood instead!)

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Dolphin Lundgren

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Fuck me, I was trying really hard to remember why is her name so goddamn familiar, even though I couldn't recall any of her roles or other stuff.

Oh wow

She was an okay actress who was attractive and starred in teen movies like Jawbreaker and later on in Planet Terror. (Although she ended up dating the director of that film.) I honestly can't even name a movie she's been in in the last few years. The last thing I saw her in was Planet Terror.
I just looked up when she was in Planet Terror and information on Planet Terror and wow. Rose threw Robert Rodriquez under the bus during the Weinstein scandal.
http://www.indiewire.com/2018/01/ro...anet-terror-harvey-weinstein-rape-1201912923/

If it weren't for Robert Rodriquez, Rose would have had no relevant work in the 2000's.
 

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You mean someone who once dressed like this in public:

is trying to get attention again? Quelle surprise.

What a feminist clothing style she had. Real respectful to women much wow!

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Rose is correct about people going after her. But she's at least three different kinds of crazy so she also claims they're going to maybe assassinate her.
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Oh woe is her. A bunch of people are calling her a transphobe on twitter. Even worse she is getting some hit pieces written about her. Guess what bitch? That's what people on the right deal with all the time. Turns out real activism isn't you pumping your fist in the air and saying "pussies grab back". Stupid cunt is preaching all this communist bullshit, but she came dangerously close to naming the jew, so now she has to go.
 

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She was an okay actress who was attractive and starred in teen movies like Jawbreaker and later on in Planet Terror. (Although she ended up dating the director of that film.) I honestly can't even name a movie she's been in in the last few years. The last thing I saw her in was Planet Terror.
I just looked up when she was in Planet Terror and information on Planet Terror and wow. Rose threw Robert Rodriquez under the bus during the Weinstein scandal.
http://www.indiewire.com/2018/01/ro...anet-terror-harvey-weinstein-rape-1201912923/

If it weren't for Robert Rodriquez, Rose would have had no relevant work in the 2000's.

She was also in that TV show Charmed for many years, you know that show that copied a lot from The Craft and had the actresses wear skimpy outfits. I heard they're rebooting it, I doubt she'll be apart of it unless they pay for her cocaine addiction.

Rose dated and had an affairs with a lot of people within the Weinstein circle, which is interesting.
 

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I think it sounds like the kind of fancy driving the police will pull you over and give you a ticket for.


When it comes to Troon vs Victor Salva can't we all agree that their sexual identity plays a large role in why they are defended?



And sometimes religion, but that doesn't always work. I wonder why so many other Jews went down in flames while Woody Allen and Roman Polanksi are still being defended by certain people.

And don't get me started on Scientologists.
 

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And sometimes religion, but that doesn't always work. I wonder why so many other Jews went down in flames while Woody Allen and Roman Polanksi are still being defended by certain people.

Nobody really gives a shit about producers. Nobody sees a movie because of who produced it. Genius directors are rare, though, and movies like Annie Hall and Chinatown will routinely be featured in "best movies of all time" lists. People don't want to dump on someone they genuinely admire, even when they turn out to be outright pieces of shit.
 

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Nobody really gives a shit about producers. Nobody sees a movie because of who produced it. Genius directors are rare, though, and movies like Annie Hall and Chinatown will routinely be featured in "best movies of all time" lists. People don't want to dump on someone they genuinely admire, even when they turn out to be outright pieces of shit.
It’s not about not dumping on someone they admire. Most people in Hollywood think Polański and Allen didn’t do anything wrong. Plus, if you bring in enough money and/or critical acclaim and prestige, then you’ll generally be protected, even if you rape a 13 year-old after giving her champagne and quaaludes.
 

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http://www.katykatikate.com/2018/02/its-time-to-let-go-of-rose-mcgowan.html

Real talk:
If we embrace Rose as our leader
we endorse her public statements
that diminish the value of women.


If we embrace Rose as our leader
#metoo is not a movement for women.


If we embrace Rose as our leader
#metoo is a movement for white, cis women.


And as a rule, I don't join whites-only groups.
As a rule, I don't cheer for groups that exclude trans voices.


I wouldn't go to a church that didn't let these people in.
I won't support a movement that closes its doors, either.


If we don't bring everyone - EVERYONE - with us,
our movement is performance, not progress.


What if the #metoo movement had been driven forward by, say, Katherine Heigl. And then Scarlett Johansson and Amanda Seyfreid spoke up. And then Cameron Diaz and Naomi Watts stepped up, and all of these blonde women spoke in a single voice: "Women will not be victims anymore."

Cool. Cool cool cool.

But then imagine Natalie Portman said "me, too." And the whole #metoo gang said, "Well, okay, I guess, but what you don't understand is that blonde women are sexualized more than brunettes are. I'm sorry that something happened to you but blonde women are so vulnerable, like so vulnerable. It's really important that we all stay focused here so that we can make the world better for women."

Uh... do you mean blonde women? Because you just took a massive dump all over this brown-haired girl.

That would be absurd, right? To draw a line down the middle of the movement that divides "real survivors" from "pretenders" based on hair color? Ridiculous!

How is that example any different from drawing a line down the middle of this women's movement separating "real women" from "transwomen" based on whether or not they menstruate? Ridiculous. Ridiculous and fucking not good enough.

The part that's baffling about this is ... how in the world did they somehow pull "white" out of that too? Did I miss the memo where black women don't menstruate or get raped or get pregnant or have other experiences? It's like they know that unless they also play the race card, a lot of people will say "so what" about the idea of feminism being a movement mostly about the vagina-having type of woman.
 

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So apparently McGowan's old manager is now an hero and her family is basically blaming McGowan and Weinstein for it. They sound really impressively pissed too:

"The Movement" just lost one of its own.
Jill Messick was a mother of two children, a loving wife and partner, a dear friend to many and a smart entertainment executive. She was also a survivor, privately battling depression, which had been her nemesis for years.
Today she did not survive. Jill took her own life.
Jill was victimized by our new culture of unlimited information sharing and a willingness to accept statement as fact. The speed of disseminating information has carried mistruths about Jill as a person, which she was unable and unwilling to challenge. She became collateral damage in an already horrific story.
Jill believed in the Movement. She supported every woman finally coming forward to share their dark truths and expose those who had committed previously unspeakable deeds. She was loyal. She was strong. Jill was many things, but she was not a liar.
Over the past few months, many women have come out with allegations against Harvey Weinstein, including Rose McGowan, who has repeatedly spoken with the press, striking out against not only her alleged attacker, but a great many others. One of them was Jill, who chose to remain silent in the face of Rose's slanderous statements against her for fear of undermining the many individuals who came forward in truth. She opted not to add to the feeding frenzy, allowing her name and her reputation to be sullied despite having done nothing wrong. She never chose to be a public figure; that choice was taken away from her.
Now that Jill can no longer speak for herself, it's time to set the record straight.
In January 1997, Jill was an entry-level manager at Addis Wechsler. One of her first clients was Rose McGowan, and one of Jill's first duties was to set up a breakfast meeting with Harvey Weinstein during the Sundance Film Festival. Following the meeting, Rose told Jill what had happened — that she made the decision to remove her clothes and get in the hot tub with him — a mistake which Rose immediately regretted. Rose never once used the word rape in that conversation. Despite this, Jill recognized that Harvey had done something untoward to Rose, if not illegal. She immediately went to her bosses, the partners of Addis Wechsler, to recount Rose's story and to insist that they immediately address the situation. They told Jill that they would handle the situation. The ensuing arrangements between Rose and Harvey were then negotiated, completely without Jill's knowledge. At that time, all Jill knew was that the matter was settled and that Rose continued making films with the Weinsteins. She never knew any details until recently, when Rose elected to make them public.
Ten months later, in November of 1997, Jill received a call from the Miramax exec VP of production, recruiting her for a job as an executive at Miramax Films working in production in Los Angeles. Jill was hired based on merit and her excellent work of over two years as a young development executive working with Woods Entertainment (prior to her time at Addis Wechsler).
Rose's most recent round of press to promote her book has included new stories involving Jill. The constant press attention Rose has garnered in print and on national TV led to Harvey Weinstein releasing two documents. One of these was an email that Jill wrote to him months prior to the first New York Times piece coming out, and at his request. In this email, Jill offered the truth based on what she remembers Rose telling her about the Sundance account. In the face of Rose's continued and embellished accusations last week, Harvey took it upon himself to release the email without her consent.
Five years ago, Jill suffered a manic episode. Anyone familiar with bipolar disorder knows that it is a cruel and vicious disease. With the help of doctors, her family and friends, Jill rebounded. Jill had fought to put her life back together. After a long job search, she was in negotiations to run the production division for a new entertainment company.
Seeing her name in headlines again and again, as part of one person's attempt to gain more attention for her personal cause, along with Harvey's desperate attempt to vindicate himself, was devastating for her. It broke Jill, who was just starting to get her life back on track. What makes Rose's inaccurate accusations and insinuations against Jill ironic was that she was the first person who stood up on Rose's behalf, and alerted her bosses to the horrific experience which Rose suffered. Twenty years ago, as a very junior person in a management company hierarchy, Jill exhibited her integrity in doing the right thing — she raised the red flag with the heads of her firm. In the face of inappropriate behavior, Jill handled the situation appropriately.
Hers is one of the only stories that has stayed consistent over time as we watch other media reported tales morph to beget further attention.
While journalists serve an important role in exposing predatory behavior, we are seeing irresponsible choices and an addiction to sensationalism which leads to inconsistent storytelling. The media is a powerful tool not to be taken lightly. Most individuals would be horrified to have their name spotlighted in a major international news story — let alone their photograph. We cannot forget that the media is a fearsome tool which cannot be used indiscriminately or even inadvertently to create further victims.
There is a responsibility when using a platform to accurately expose criminals, predators, mistruths and misdeeds while protecting the actual truth of third parties.
As we collectively seek to take action in an effort to right the wrongs so brazenly and inhumanely repeated for a generation, we must not forget one simple truth: Words have power. While we illuminate the dark corners for hidden truths, we must remember that what we say, particularly in the media, can have just as much impact if not more than our actions. We must ask more of ourselves, and of each other. We must take a moment to consider the ramifications and consequences of what we say and what we do.
Words matter.
Someone's life may depend on it.
 
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