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Let's Sperg Rule the Waves II: Kiwis at Sea - From Pre Dreadnoughts to the Missile Age, Something is Always Bloody Wrong With Your Ships Today
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The manual build will be needed. I'm not going to grab 12 inch guns, but I want to make sure I have a few colonal cruisers.
The Schwaben is a short range battleship - which is fine with the starting situation that Germany has. She's got a good amount of secondary and OK armor - nothing spectacular, but 8.5 inches isn't shabby at all.
The Victoria Louise class is a little lightly armored for an armored cruiser, but she's not too expensive and has colonial service - important. I'll take at least one to put into Northeast Asia.
Similarly, the Gefion class is outfitted for colonial service, and will do well as a raiding CL. 23 knots is a good speed early game - fast enough to escape armored cruisers.
Meanwhile this ugly little bastard will be my main destroyer leader. She's got 22 knots, six inch guns (to bully light ships), and a few 3 inch secondaries just for a little more firepower. She's also not that expensive either. My destroyers are the standard 27 knot, 2 3 inch and 4 2 inch gun designs, with short range.
I also get a minesweeper design out. She'll be good for tonnage requirements overseas, and with colonial service will count for more.
My initial fleet isn't extremely large, but I've got a battleship and a pair of cruisers under construction. Things look good to go.
It takes a year before any event worth mentioning even happens. Having Krupp armor pop early is useful.
Once I do get events though, I'll be using them as often as I can.
It's only a minor improvement, but minor or not, it's still better than the other ones.
Oil in Albania? Really? Heavy secondary battery also pops, but I'm not interested.
War with the British isn't an option right now. I don't have the forces to contest the blockade. It's two prestige, which I rather wouldn't lose, but it's better than getting my shit kicked in by the British early game.
Unrest is crawling up, but prestige will help offset that gain. I also unlock coastal submarines - I'll need them. Lots of them.
Amid soaring tensions with about everyone, I get my first gun tech to pop. It's kind of useless. Better quality 5 inch guns won't be relevant for a while.
Despite high tensions with them, I get this event. Hopefully, it'll give me an alliance. Either way it'll reduce my budget, which will help the unrest situation. The talks fail, but they do reduce tensions with the British.
I have high tensions with France right now, and an ultimatum could get me into a war with them.
Tonnage wise, it's looking like a pretty even fight. They'll outnumber me in battleships, but I have raiders in position to do damage, and can spit out more battleships as needed. This early in the game, most ships aren't penetrating one another either, so I don't need to worry too much about that.
They were pretty sour already. Sadly it isn't enough to go to war. Some techs pop, including one I stole from France, all minor improvements.
I'm also going to get a new battleship design out there. She's a chonker, and really nothing special.
A useful tech for some designs. I'll probably throw it on a cruiser later.
Surprisingly, it's the Pastas that beat the frogs to the top of the tension charts. Not that I might not end up at war with France as well.
I'm totally up to fight something like this. I know my heavy cruisers aren't the best, but I should be able to fight the Italians to a draw.
The Hertha is at around half fuel, but she should encounter an Italian ship sooner or later, right?
Ah, there they are.
They immediately turn tail and run for home. Night falls before I can catch them. I'll leave it here - it's the first war of the game. My submarines are under construction still, but once they're active I have no doubt I'll do some damage to Italian shipping.
Oh Billy, cashing checks you're not quite ready to pay off.
Still, it seems the game is apologizing for dicking you as Japan, since you're getting decent techs off early. On the bright side, at least you've not been forced to build shit due to treaties either.
Seriously, you got hit by like three of them last game and that was dick.
Still, it seems the game is apologizing for dicking you as Japan, since you're getting decent techs off early. On the bright side, at least you've not been forced to build shit due to treaties either.
Seriously, you got hit by like three of them last game and that was dick.
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A little off topic, but what's everyone's favorite naval game? Or just some good ones?
I like actually managing the ships tactically and had some fun with Atlantic Fleet. I just wish they had pacific version.
I like actually managing the ships tactically and had some fun with Atlantic Fleet. I just wish they had pacific version.
Congratulations Admiral and welcome back. Lead the Kiser’s fleet well and fuck up the Russians.
Any meme designs this time around or is it just too much of a hassle. Either way if you still got the time I really liked those little battle reports you did during the A-H run.
Meme designs are possible. I’ll try to build some battlecruisers with cross deck fire. Same with battleships, if I don’t get super firing turrets soon enough.
Battle reports are a lot of fun. The Japan game just never offered the sort of battles I would enjoy doing reports on.
Try Battlestations Midway/Pacific; it’s similar to Atlantic Fleet. From the same developers as Atlantic Fleet I highly recommend Cold Waters. Its a spiritual successor to the classic PC game Red Storm Rising, and has some very good moments. In a similar vein, Silent Hunter 3 and 4 are both good WWII submarine games. Wolfpack is still in alpha but if you’ve got friends willing to try it with you I would pick it up. It’s very immersive.
For the more autistic and varied simulations, I’d look at Command: Modern Air and Naval Operations. You can likely pick it up this summer for cheap during the steam sale. It’s essentially Harpoon on steroids. Want a detailed list of available Soviet interceptors along with performance data and weaponry used? What about the hypothetical Super Tomcat? It’s all in there, along with a smorgasbord of other creations, and a lot of community scenarios. Otherwise, buy the Northern Inferno campaign pack - it’s stand alone from the game and offers 13 missions focused around a hypothetical Cold War gone hot in 1975. It’s really interesting to see that capability gap between the Soviets of that era and NATO, when it comes to Soviet anti-ship missiles, and NATO anti-missile capabilities.
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CMANO is one of those games I wish I could get into, but I really don't have the patience to embrace the autism. I played Battlestations Pacific a long time ago, maybe it's time for another run to get that tactical Pacific itch taken care of.
Is it possible to make Monitors like the Erebus or Roberts-class, and would they even be viable?
So uh, yeah, my battleships are now obsolete. Shit. As is though, this war is turning into a commerce focused one - raiders are the only ones seeing action for the first three months.
We get an engagement though, and I'll take it.
Once again, the Hertha is steaming around the Red Sea in August. The seas are a little rough, which benefits me. 21 knots might be the limit of speed, so I'll focus on catching them
I initially identified this as a battleship. She's about as well armored as mine, but she has better guns but fewer of them. She's also got a heavier secondary battery - this is the price I pay for speed. She's lighter but arguably will do better in a slugging match. I need to cross her T, and get close - I can't penetrate her main belt but I should be able to blast through her extended armor and turrets.
Wait.
OK, abort.
As I'm turning away, she nails one of my turrets, and my secondary battery - and penetrates it. It's superficial damage. I easily run away from her and count my blessings she wasn't faster.
It's marginal - she was able to damage me while I was only really able to scurry away.
The game keeps giving me tension events with France. I don't want to fight two wars at the same time. It's not good policy.
For the first time though, my raiders start to do damage. I moved one of my lighter light cruisers into the mediterranean, and it'll do its job.
Again, I'll take it. I can run away if I have to.
Good news and bad news. Good news, I've got both a light and heavy cruiser here. Bad news, it's twilight. And I might be up against battleships at close range. Not fun.
Aw shit. Luckily, night falls, and they can't see me. I just need to find and kill those transports.
Or not. TURN AWAY!
We chased down the transports at least, slipping past the escorts in the night. Oh boy, it's time for a fucking slaughter.
Gunnery and night fighting training is showing itself at these close ranges, even with only basic fire control.
We leave six sinking ships behind us in the dark. We'll call it good and take the victory, and slip away in the dusk.
It's really not a victory though. The Italians transports survived, mostly because I couldn't find the rest in the dark.
Minor victory, which makes sense.
My submarines also finally finish, freeing up funds for finishing the four battleships I have in construction.
In December, I get a bit of a break - a coastal raid is a good chance for me to do some real damage.
Ahahaha!
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!
A large enemy coastal raid in the Baltic gives me my entire fleet to play with.
Sadly I wasn't able to find them. It would have been brutal for the Italians.
Also we're somehow blockading them. I don't know how.
Oh. Oh that's why. All their capital ships are in either Northern Europe or the Indian Ocean. They fix this issue in a month or so.
Captured Italian torpedoes has given us a tech boost.
I was hoping for a peace, but hey. War helps with my battleship construction.
Central Firing is also a big boost.
A coastal raid in the Red Sea once again starts up. I take the battle, but I've got no idea if I can complete it - it's a bombard target mission. This DD keeps shadowing me on the way to the target too.
He doesn't stop me from just cruising along, and pounding it with 9 inch guns.
It took about half my ammunition, but I finally blast it to nothing. Just in time too, night falls soon after.
Nice.
I get lucky. They call it quits.
Eritrea is good, and I'll also grab Rhodes, just so I have something in the Mediterranean.
I also get good news in regards to 10 inch guns - quality 0 is very good.
About a year after the war, things are going pretty swimmingly. I could use more prestige and budget, that's for sure.
The tensions aren't too bad either.
Holy shit.
This ship won't hold up for more than a decade, maybe two, but she's ideal for colonial service later on. A massive secondary battery, in 7.5 inches of armor will mean that even ships like armored cruisers will be wary of straying into range. 11 inch quality 0 guns will do quite well too, as shell penetration increases. She's pretty much perfect for later upgrade into oil firing - give her an extra three knots of speed and she'll be a terrifying coastal defense ship.
Also, fuck the French.
I get Cross Deck Fire the same month. Holy shit. I'll need to check if I can build a dreadnought battleship now - and it's a no. I don't have main battery wing turrets unlocked yet.
I do however, design this monster. She'll be nasty for the next half decade at least - 10 inch guns and a massive 6 inch battery means she'll rip apart other armored cruisers, and her speed means she can most likely outrun battlecruisers. I'll take two please.
1906 will be an interesting year. Hopefully, we'll get the tech for Dreadnoughts.
Well well - it's started.
Aaaand that sucks for the ships I just built. But it means my first dreadnoughts will be better than the competition.
I'd like a better destroyer. 600 tons, good range, and more torpedo tubes. Plus, 30 knots of speed. She's a speed demon alright.
A new cruiser is also a no brainer. She's got very little in terms of secondary arms, but she'll be a good colonial ship, and a decent raider. 24 knots is a hell of a good speed at this point.
I can create semi-dreadnoughts now. I'm tempted, but I'll wait.
Well that destroyer class is obsolete now.
Armor is getting better too. The dreadnought race is looking like it'll start late.
Yeah, no.
Quit mocking me game. Anyway, it's time to design the next generation of battleship, once I get enough cash.
Containing Japan isn't a bad idea either.
Waiting around for funds also helps in other ways. Superimposed X turrets means I can make improved dreadnought designs right away.
This is going to be one hell of a battlecruiser for quite a few years. 11 inch guns, good speed and armor, and deck armor that'll keep her relevant for at least the next five years. She'll be expensive as hell though.
This isn't also the greatest of battleship designs, but she's got 5 11 inch turrets, a foot of armor, 22 knot speed, and an OK secondary battery. She's got torpedo defense, and critically, medium range as well. I can send her around to various locations, something important in my mind, if I have to fight a war with either Italy, or god forbid Japan in the future.
British battleships aren't too much different, though they switched around armor for armament. They're also smaller, thus cheaper. They can have more of them, which could be a problem in future.
Luckily, my gunworks give me an opportunity once my design proposals are finished.
The redesign is going to be costly, it's pretty much an entirely new ship. I drop a knot of speed and some secondaries, some ammunition, and some armor on the secondaries. Her weight also balloons by 3000 tons. But, I think she'll work as a first generation dreadnought.
Son of a bitch. I just need superimposed B turrets now.
You're fucking kidding me. The ITALIANS have oil now?
I get better torpedo protection in early 1910, along with 900 ton destroyers. I'll need to design a new class of them sooner or later.
As I'm building four hannovers and a worth, I get this. Fuck.
I try to take over North Korea. It doesn't go too well. I end up in a cruiser battle, with my new cruisers.
This could be an interesting fight.
Their cruisers aren't any kind of threat to me.
We also draw first blood - a destroyer sent to the bottom.
Poor weather finally hides the Russians from my sights. Night falls too, so I call it there.
We stomp the Russians flat.
A prestigious victory, without a doubt.
A coastal raid also cues up a battle here. The Italian ships are easily outclassed by mine. This will be easy.
I set one of them on fire, and continue to pound the crap out of them.
I do inflict heavy damage on the Italians however, but I don't sink them.
The Russians are already under blockade.
It's going to be one hell of a long raiding war.
Or not. I push for hard terms. It doesn't amount to really anything.
A technical agreement with Great Britain also helps me out. I've got to design new destroyers sooner rather than later.
Oh man, if I only had oil.
Airships? Holy shit, airships!
The Kaiser wants battleships. Lots of battleships. I've got 3 more Hannovers going, and another 3 BC's to meet his requirements. I lose some prestige from the debt, but I get them going.
This is a big advantage. I'll need to look into this soon, once I can get super firing guns. I also get 1100 ton destroyers. Shit.
I'll build this destroyer now. She's almost twice as big as my current models, and has heavier guns.
The tail of 1915 gives me director fire. Which is nice, but I don't have anything really good enough to exploit it. I'll need to make a new design.
She's a little awkward. I've only got quality -1 14 inch guns, and a limited weight budget. Her short range will be a problem later on, but 23 knots isn't bad, and neither are 10 14 inch guns.
Well shit.
This is the epitome of a compromise design. She's big, because I want 23 knots. She's awkward looking because fuck you. She doesn't have secondary turrets because cross deck fire doesn't allow it. She's expensive, very expensive, and big as hell. Hopefully, she'll do alright.
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Tensions with France are high, but when it comes to capital ship tonnage I easily beat them. I need some more light cruisers, so I commissioned a basic design for one. I also could use some more modern heavy cruisers, but right now I'd like to focus on other things - my battlecruisers fill the roles of heavy cruisers anyway, so I'm not too concerned.
Honestly, you're getting a lot luckier with the tech this time around, and I bet the (slightly) improved funding and better education helps a lot too. With Japan, you had dick to call for Torp protection and I think you at best had 14 inchers thanks to the Brits at this time too. Actually, you didn't even really have that I think, since you had that decade long BS war. I mean, barring getting Y turrets and something like double or triple mounts, your blueprint pattern's mostly ready. Also nice, Zeppelins! Hope you make a not shit carrier for Pacific use when you get the techs.
Seriously, you are so much further ahead than your Japan game it's like the game is apologizing for throwing three successful arms limiting treaties and refusing to give you anything that is needed for a good ship design.
Seriously, you are so much further ahead than your Japan game it's like the game is apologizing for throwing three successful arms limiting treaties and refusing to give you anything that is needed for a good ship design.
No. Those kinds of monitors were pretty much exclusively for shore bombardment, not naval combat. As such they’re out of the scope of the game.
I need B mounts. Crossdeck Fire lets me simulate that to a degree, but it isn’t a perfect fix. What I really want is all or nothing armor - without it my designs are going to be heavier and slower.
Huh, this is weird, it looks like the images are gone. Which is weird but the descriptions are done well enough that they aren’t really needed. Good work man! Kick the Cheese Monkeys ass.
It's a weakness with attaching photos on the farms. If you do a lot of them on a single page, the site gives up on loading them, especially if your connection isn't the best. Repeated refreshes show they still exist though.
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