Ryukishi07 megathread - Currently Higurashi Gou/Sotsu griefing

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This isn't about Gou? Like an actual fanfic? I haven't checked WTC fics in ages past the couple I've fav'ed back in the day, what's this one about?
It started as a one time joke back during the chrisposting days, before evolving into another vgcw type show but with when they cry characters with the main character in all the shows being battler.
Sadly it seems recently it has entered a sort of discordwar between one of the producers of the main show and the creator of one the spinoffs
 
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It started as a one time joke back during the chrisposting days, before evolving into another vgcw type show but with when they cry characters with the main character in all the shows being battler.
Sadly it seems recently it has entered a sort of discordwar between one of the producers of the main show and the creator one of the spinoffs
10:55 is kino.

But yeah TFR is probably the reason people on /v/ still talk about seacats outside of Gou. Had a lot of Umineko characters and Battler was the de-facto main character iirc. If anyone can find the Battler vs Beatrice fight, it's a treat.
 

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So I've seen people theorizing Gou could have a secon season to properly conclude things and have seen people throw the name Sotsu around as the Kai equivalent. Idk. If they do this and can pull off satisfying revelations and a good conclusion that's great but idk. I don't see how they can wrap this up in 2-3 more episodes.
 

Kari Kamiya

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So I've seen people theorizing Gou could have a secon season to properly conclude things and have seen people throw the name Sotsu around as the Kai equivalent. Idk. If they do this and can pull off satisfying revelations and a good conclusion that's great but idk. I don't see how they can wrap this up in 2-3 more episodes.
I was wondering if a second season was going to be a thing, but Gou honestly doesn't deserve more time dedicated to it. It had its chance. Had it skipped over the pointless recaps the first 13 episodes, it'd have had all the time in the world, dead serious. And it would've never brought up the stupid "newcomer-friendly" bullshit.
 

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So I've seen people theorizing Gou could have a secon season to properly conclude things and have seen people throw the name Sotsu around as the Kai equivalent. Idk. If they do this and can pull off satisfying revelations and a good conclusion that's great but idk. I don't see how they can wrap this up in 2-3 more episodes.
In Japan, a season is something like 12 episodes average but it's not comparable to how a season works in American TV. It could be something like Jojo's Diamond is Unbreakable arc where it was 36 episodes (about three seasons), which sounds like a reasonable amount since I can't imagine another 24 episodes is needed to wrap up Rika's and Satoko's drama.

Also kind of wished they let Satoshi wake up, poor guy missed out on his high school years.
 
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Kari Kamiya

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I don't want to derail the thread, but when I was searching for books both Higurashi and Umineko manga titles cost $60+ bucks, I presume because of Gou.
I've noticed some Umineko volumes were suddenly unavailable when I was finishing up buying them last year/2019. I don't know why they're suddenly not in print or what, but it was honestly a pain in the ass to get volume 13 (first volume of Episode 6).
 

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I've noticed some Umineko volumes were suddenly unavailable when I was finishing up buying them last year/2019. I don't know why they're suddenly not in print or what, but it was honestly a pain in the ass to get volume 13 (first volume of Episode 6).
Yes I remembered you mentioning that.
I only wanted to buy the first volume as I already read it online as a teen. then I remembered that even in YouTube, they translated even the final panels (I think) and you can watch Let's Players with the VN'S.
 

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I finished Umineko today. The ending didn't bother me, but the whole "the truth isn't what actually matters" message gets beat over your head pretty hard. I got pretty attached to the Ushiromiya family, particularly Battler and Ange, so seeing them finally at peace with their respective pasts left me feeling satisfied enough.

Although, the more I look into it, the more I dislike the Yasu/Shkanon twist. Probably my biggest gripe.


All in all, a fun read. Now I just have Tsubasa, Hane and Saku to get through.
 
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Kari Kamiya

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Yes I remembered you mentioning that.
I only wanted to buy the first volume as I already read it online as a teen. then I remembered that even in YouTube, they translated even the final panels (I think) and you can watch Let's Players with the VN'S.
Jesus, fuck!
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This is really interesting. What's going on? Is this their way of forcing people to switch to Kindle?
 

John Titor

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I finished Umineko today. The ending didn't bother me, but the whole "the truth isn't what actually matters" message gets beat over your head pretty hard. I got pretty attached the Ushiromiya family, particularly Battler and Ange, so seeing them finally at peace with their respective pasts left me feeling satisfied enough.

Although, the more I look into it, the more I dislike the Yasu/Shkanon twist. Probably my biggest gripe.


All in all, a fun read. Now I just have Tsubasa, Hane and Saku to get through.
If I remember correctly, people were upset because their theory was wrong or no deus ex machina happy ending like in Higurashi which I suppose is fine. I also remembered the double suicide was really heartrending with the music not helping.
 

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If I remember correctly, people were upset because their theory was wrong or no deus ex machina happy ending like in Higurashi which I suppose is fine. I also remembered the double suicide was really heartrending with the music not helping.
Naw, I was mostly pissed Ryukishi went with the Tumblr ending for the culprit. Umineko's not a story that was ever going to have a happy ending.
 

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If I remember correctly, people were upset because their theory was wrong or no deus ex machina happy ending like in Higurashi which I suppose is fine. I also remembered the double suicide was really heartrending with the music not helping.
Nah, people were pissed that the entirety of episode 8 is ryukishi calling everyone who didnt put up with his shit a goat and the ending being essencially a fuck you (until the manga released and properly concluded the story)
 

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Nah, people were pissed that the entirety of episode 8 is ryukishi calling everyone who didnt put up with his shit a goat and the ending being essencially a fuck you (until the manga released and properly concluded the story)
It's funny how you can tell people who were reading Umineko as it was being released vs. people who came in later, after everything was done. There's a lot of community bullshit that the latter group missed. I don't know that most people are put off by the ending itself, it's just a typical bittersweet ending that the Japanese love, it was more how he ended it, the Metaverse bullshit, the whole situation around the culprit, refusing to show his hand, since he'd actually have to explain how the culprit did everything, and I think his saltiness over his insistence that you could figure it all out by the end of Chapter 4, while most people didn't figure anything right until he explicitly put it out there. And even then, the only people who did get it right where the Fujos on Tumblr, not through logic, but because they wanted to canonize butt fucking. The reaction to the culprit reveal was more "that's stupid and here the logic problems with it," then anything else. It's what you get when you court an audience that enjoys logic problems.

His fucking with Gou and retconning both Higurashi and Umineko don't surprise me. Lambda as clearly based on Takano, hence the antagonistic relationship with Bern.
 

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I think he's trying to justify his sadistic yuri ship by nuking Satoko and Rika's relationship into orbit.
Yeah, but it's so fucking stupid. This is a solution to a problem no one had. The implication of Higurashi being a game between Bern and Lambda with Rika and Takano as their pieces is implied a bit in Umineko. That doesn't need to be changed. Is he going to go back and change all of Lambda's artwork to make her look more like Satoko? If he tweaks that, doesn't it make the suggestion that he similarly retconned in Shkanon and Yasu as a boy for degenerate asspats more believable? I mean, are either of those things necessary for Umineko to function? Wasn't part of the point of the manga and his later writings to smooth over the problems caused by those things?
 

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Nah, people were pissed that the entirety of episode 8 is ryukishi calling everyone who didnt put up with his shit a goat and the ending being essencially a fuck you (until the manga released and properly concluded the story)
Okay, I definitely remember that. I just know it was a bunch of things. Hell, the animesuki forum exists as a time capsule filled with salt.
 

Kari Kamiya

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Fuck you, Gou, I don't ever want to feel anything but disgust over Teppei. I want to see that fucker's head being bashed in and feel satisfied he gets what he deserves, I don't want him to have a redemption arc because he doesn't deserve it.

Fuck this shit, I knew this was going to happen and I'm pissed, especially how they did it.
 

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