Saint Diana, Our Lady of the Landmines - That's not a halo, that's a steering wheel!

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I saw this thread and had to double check what year it was. People still care about Princess Diana in any capacity?

People still care about Marilyn Monroe and JFK. There's a fascination with popular figures who die young under "tragic" circumstances.

I've watched a couple of the Diana specials this week and two things strike me. 1) they fail to convey the intensity of the propaganda war which raged between Diana and the Palace and 2) more information (or to be more accurate, repackaged information) does nothing to clarify how much of anything which was said by either side is true.
 

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A friend of my Dad's was actually ambushed by a news reporter and interviewed shortly after Diana's death. This guy holds the royal family in rather low esteem so when the interviewer asked him if he remembered where he was when Diana died, he said he didn't (that was a lie - he actually did, but he wasn't about to admit it) because it wasn't a particularly significant event in his life. The interviewer then asked him whether he thought her death was sad and he responded:
"Well, I think it's sad in the way I would if any young mother died, but if she'd been at home with her kids, it never would've happened."

Unbelievably, his interview actually made it onto national television (before you go looking for it, I've checked the internet and it isn't there). His mother in law was furious with him, but it didn't change the fact he'd said the truth no-one else was willing to say.
 

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"Well, I think it's sad in the way I would if any young mother died, but if she'd been at home with her kids, it never would've happened."

Unbelievably, his interview actually made it onto national television (before you go looking for it, I've checked the internet and it isn't there). His mother in law was furious with him, but it didn't change the fact he'd said the truth no-one else was willing to say.

Her kids weren't going to be at home. That was allegedly one of the reasons she decided to change her plans and go to Paris instead of returning to the UK when she'd originally planned.

That said, if she hadn't been off manipulating the media it wouldn't have happened. The decision to return to Dodi's flat (which they had supposedly left to escape the media) made no sense when they could have simply stayed at the Ritz overnight. While the proximate cause may have been a drunk person driving the car in which she was passenger, there were a series of bad decisions that day which led to that point.

There is more recognition now that she was a skilled media manipulator than there was 20 years ago, but there's still an inclination to portray her as a victim of something - anything - other than an intense media war which was largely her own creation.

More annoying is her brother continually popping up to cash in on her memory. No-one would give a fuck who the current Earl Spencer is were it not for Diana having been his sister and the media is so hungry for commentary from him that his refusal to let Diana live at Althorp following her divorce from Charles is rarely mentioned.
 
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The truth of the matter is that frankly a the vast majority of people born post 1990 generally don't care that much about Diana, and that the majority of fanbase (as well as Camilla's) are mostly people above the age of 50. I was an infant when Diana died - her death was tragic, but it doesn't connect to me at all as I was far too young to even notice it.

It's both sad and kinda funny how Diana and Camilla have become this soap opera for middle-aged conspiritards on Facebook.
 

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Her kids weren't going to be at home. That was allegedly one of the reasons she decided to change her plans and go to Paris instead of returning to the UK when she'd originally planned.

That said, if she hadn't been off manipulating the media it wouldn't have happened. The decision to return to Dodi's flat (which they had supposedly left to escape the media) made no sense when they could have simply stayed at the Ritz overnight. While the proximate cause may have been a drunk person driving the car in which she was passenger, there were a series of bad decisions that day which led to that point.

There is more recognition now that she was a skilled media manipulator than there was 20 years ago, but there's still an inclination to portray her as a victim of something - anything - other than an intense media war which was largely her own creation.

More annoying is her brother continually popping up to cash in on her memory. No-one would give a fuck who the current Earl Spencer is were it not for Diana having been his sister and the media is so hungry for commentary from him that his refusal to let Diana live at Althorp following her divorce from Charles is rarely mentioned.

This is interesting - I'm too young to remember anything about it happening, but the story as it's been told to me has always been "Diana was perfect and the paparazzi made her die RIP don't ask anymore questions."

Any good sources on more info for Diana's potential media manipulation?
 

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This is interesting - I'm too young to remember anything about it happening, but the story as it's been told to me has always been "Diana was perfect and the paparazzi made her die RIP don't ask anymore questions."

Any good sources on more info for Diana's potential media manipulation?

It's mentioned in the recent TV specials on her. I think there may still also be some working links in the Wikipedia article on her. It was alluded to in her brother's letter to her refusing to allow her to live at Althorp. It was actually mentioned around the time of her death but any mentions of it were totally overwhelmed by "blame the media", "blame the Royals" sentiment.

This isn't a bad summary, despite being from a trashy source.

http://www.couriermail.com.au/enter...d/news-story/e69ffae311a9f5e0eb59e75988ce4a38

I find how she became so adept at branding herself a more interesting question. In just 10 years she went from being a naive, uneducated pawn to a tour de force. It's incredibly unlikely that she simply "matured" into that ability on her own, yet there's never really been any discussion of who taught her to play the media - and by extension, the Royal family - like a fiddle.
 
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When I saw this thread, I remember that there was a Golgo 13 story where the titular assassin was shown to be partially involved in the her death (he was actually hired to cap Dodi and leave her alive but another assassin was hired to engineer the 'drunk chauffer' angle to make sure there's no muslim heir.

I've got that volume somewhere...
 

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When I saw this thread, I remember that there was a Golgo 13 story where the titular assassin was shown to be partially involved in the her death (he was actually hired to cap Dodi and leave her alive but another assassin was hired to engineer the 'drunk chauffer' angle to make sure there's no muslim heir.

I've got that volume somewhere...

Dodi's dad was the best conspiracy theorist, although Diana was a conspiracy nut herself.
 

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No media-scheduled mourning over Diana is complete without professional grief-monger Paul Burrell chiming in about how everything in his life except his bank balance has suffered in the years since Diana's death. His latest cash-grab step on the long road to spiritual recovery was a therapy session, conveniently filmed and aired on UK national television.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/tv/2017/...ould-burrell-want-trauma-princess-dianas/amp/

Burrell’s sexuality and relationship with Diana proved more productive veins to tap, quickly bringing to the surface a personality trait that Saligari summed up as: “All is not as it seems with him. He has learnt to perform, to play a role.”

If there was a grim fascination in watching Saligari skilfully unpack what was not real (or “constructed” as she put it) in Burrell’s personality, more often than not we viewers were simply left guessing whether what came out of his mouth was true or, at best, delusional.

I don't know whether to applaud or pity him for spending the last twenty years grifting off a dead person's memory.
 
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