I'm honestly not even sure what's going on in this picture, it's like my brain can't fully process it. Who are these characters? Is the moth-thing's head totally off? I really can't tell.
Sam Fennah / FailSafe42 - Atheist furry who dropped out of college; sperged to Bionicle fans about God not existing #SAVEBOB
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I think the moth is Carmen's and the beast Kiv is a community OC
Well there go my hopes. If it is, I the duck don’t know how he is going to make it interesting for 700 pages and 5-6 books.
I hope the animatics aren’t just a lure with the best pages to buy the book - which will turn out to be something completely different. In this case the smartass’ career will fall straight down, his First Night series might get him views but he’ll be called out everywhere on how shit he is.
Also, why not focus and finish the book, then you’ll sell it an have money for your rent huh?
Let’s say optimistically the book costs now 9,99£, 12£ with shipping in Europe or something.
He self publishes, so the making of one book with the cheapest paper and paper cover should cost around 6£, as he will order it in massive bulk.
He sells it now for 9,99, so 10£, not including shipping.
That’s 4£ profit, whether paper or e-book.
Now from the 170k who watched the first animatic or the other ones, 50k are so impressed they want to buy it, including those who didn’t watch any animatic to get surprised more, those who just stumbled upon and haters who want to shit on it instantly.
50.000 x 4 = 200.000£
thats hella lot and you have paid rent for some few years, even if the rent is 2.500£.
The book is good? Much more people will buy it, around 70k then, super optimistic if masterpiece it can even get to 100-200k if other people review it and the internet storms it. Now dude every other book you publish will get you similar amount of money, plus a smart move is making the other books then 2£ more expensive (the first is then more of a teaser book, and if people like/love it they’ll want more and will be ready to pay additional 2 pounds or so.)
The book is bad? Well dude your product just flopped and 50.000£ maximum is all you’ll ever get from it, as people will instantly tell around “oh god it’s so awful” and others will cancel their pre/order whatsoever, counting then the 4.000£ for every other book you publish. Now you can start commissions to save your poor ass and make up for the lost money on production.
Turn over for such marketing is traditionally only about 10% traditionally. So we're talking 17k sales, if we account for all the assholes like me who intend to shit on it as soon as I can afford to get around to it and randoms who we don't have numbers on, we're talking about 20k to 25k sales unless it is a breakout hit, and unless I see some demographic data that says otherwise, I am assuming Fennah is going to have a low rate of sales due to the fact he's advertising this book as 18+, which limits sales among adults, and he has an audience that is predominately minors who lack the disposable income of their own to buy the book. Let's be generous and give him 25k in sales for this.
Currently a book such as his, without over pricing himself so much to put people off buying it, goes for about $9 USD (which is a more commonly used international currency, we'll convert to GBP at the end for him). He can push that up to $12 USD and still not piss too many people off and make decent sales. If I kick my chair over to my book shelf of stuff that hasn't been banished to a shelf in the basement because I won't read it again this decade and grab four random books of the 600-800 page range that are soft cover and released in 2020 or 2021 we get $8, $11, $14, $12. Of those the $14 was eleven books into a franchise, and that lets it charge more. Selling to your own niche however does let you put price around 30%, so we are into $11.99 territory. With some rounding up that is easily fudged to get £8.99. In Canada, my local market, that would likely get fudged to $14.99.
Assuming that he pulls off sales at a price of around $11.99 USD, or £8.49 GBP to low ball it, he'd be at around £212,250 in pure revenue, that looks pretty good right? Taking a look into the reality of publishing his book on shit paper, he's likely going to be spending closer to $8 USD on material, as, and here is a surprise many of you wouldn't know, getting that shit printed without the backing of a proper publisher is actually more expensive since they got deals in place to reduce the costs further than any bulk order of a self published author could imagine. So we're looking at around £5.76 in manufacturing per unit. Then there are all the various fees involved with selling it over seas, since Fennah doesn't exactly have a purely domestic audience, plus the expenses of getting it into traditional bookstores if he plans to try and reach anything that resembles a larger market, their pretty standard 15%, and we're at around $1.69 USD in his pocket per book. Or around £1.22 GBP, which leaves his profits at... £30,500. Yeah, welcome to why authors are fucking broke. Here's a fun thing, from some research, traditionally published books also tend to bring in about 20-30% more over all to their authors than self published, despite the lower return per sale. So Fennah is still an idiot for self publishing.
It is also worth noting, if you aren't a fucking retard, you'd also need to consider that when it comes to writing, 8 hours of work one day do not produce the same amount of progress towards a finished book as 8 hours of work the next day. Writers block, mental fatigue, shit just reading funky and requiring repeated revisions and edits, and unexpected difficulties moving from one chunk of story to the next without it seeming completely confused can make progress run quite slow, on the other hand you might have it all flow smoothly and somehow get more progress done in a day than a month. This is a big part of why book release times, even among far more professional authors, are a fucking shit show at times unless the author is very used to writing a certain style of book.
Now, he really should start dedicating far more time to the writing of his book, as these animations are a waste of his time, but he also, quite frankly, announced this book far too early. Commissions are also what are going to pay for all the up front costs of publishing the book, since that is quite expensive. If Fennah has two braincells he should also be releasing it as both an e-book and an audio book (at a few bucks more), which he self recorded and didn't pay any of his voice actors to read, to help bring in more sales at a far higher profit margin. If we account for those expenses, he's likely looking at about £6 in his pocket per sale if he predominately sells through digital and audiobook with a minimal number of sales as physical copies, which gets up to a total profit of £150,000. Now this is far better, and this is the only reason modern authors make money. Digital sales ran up to the price of physical sales. Having digital sales does also mean he can treat the physical release as something more premium and sell it at a comparable profit margin to his digital sales, letting him hit a new profit margin of £7.22 per sale, we'll round that down to £7 to account for any fuzziness in manufacturing and so on, and say he's now at £175,000 of profit from all of this.
And this is all assuming we are stupidly generous to Fennah and assume his installed fan base goes insane. Let's be more reasonable.
The most recent Animatic for Celia is only at 28k views after 9 days. This converts to an estimated 2.8k sales, accounting for assholes and so on we can hit 3k sales, at our most generous profit margin we can give him £7 per sale in the pocket for... £21,000 total.
I always forget that his book is +18, as age restrictions on books don't matter to me at all, as what you picture in your head through the words is nowhere near what you would see in a +18 movie or comic (taking Felidae for example or Watership Down which both are amazing as book and movie). Guess I'm just so used to his sexual fetish crap that I don't even notice it anymore.
I think most sales will get his animatic, which I guess he will put up per chapter on YouTube as premium paid content maybe. It's likely to reach most audience.
Remove the pictures from the animatic and you have an Audiobook, but I don't know if he will sell that seperately for a cheaper price, but maybe as it is a smart marketing move too.
I just hope he doesn't overprice the book to 30$ or something, as self-publishing is very expensive... But that would hurt his sales massively so I think not.
Hand up for traditionall publishing, as all he has to do is la la editor checks it make this a little different and this and explain why... can do the book cover and so illustrations even himself, much much cheaper everything, he hasn't to worry about formatting as the publisher does all of it himself, and prints and tadaa. And even markets it, without you having to do much. All you have to do is write and talk with your editor to fix the some problems. That's all. Sef-publishing? Well good luck that will take so much time with all that ordering proof copies and he has to ship it everywhere, and that will hurt his sales too, as from GB now to USA or China is some shipping cost and neheh....
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Locomotive meat
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I’m surprised XioVox voiced the new vid. I remember when he and the VA for Titania got into a fight and they both abandoned the discord without telling anyone. Nobody had any clue what was going on. People were pissed. The VA of Fleisher was telling everyone to calm down and not to message them, but idk if people listened to her cause holy hell the anger and insults. Especially the VA for Luna. She got nasty af. Guess Xio got over that shit and returned, idk about Titania
JustMeLol2021
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What's up with Fennah and his staff being massive jerks to people? Especially Luna, I thought she left the fandom and she was probably the worse one with all her disturbing NSFW art for Satellite City. I'm actually glad she left the fandom, she seems to be doing somewhat better on her own now. It's like anyone that works alongside Fennah gets infected with a bad case of jerk ass syndrome. I swear there's always something going on in his Discord server, I heard another old fan of Fennah was falsely accused for stalking a minor in his server or something but I'm not entirely sure how the whole story played out. Another reason to not get involved in this fandom, it's toxic as hell. With all the minors, NSFW art, and gore it's really hard for me to enjoy Fennah's content anymore.
To be honest before I discovered Kiwi Farms I really enjoyed his content more. Now I will never see everything with the same eyes unless I abondon the whole, but that will still be in the back of my mind.
Don't search any dark corners of something you like. It'll ruin it.
I'm the opposite. I went from a fan to indifferent to active dislike of his blatant edginess, so finding his thread here was almost spitefully validating.
JustMeLol2021
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I'm conflicted tbh, but honestly same. Before I discovered Kiwi Farms, I was a minor at the time and I was really into Fennah's weird world of characters. Then came the whole Bob situation, and then The Wall review made things worse and I started to slowly form my own opinions about him. I never noticed how egocentric he was because I praised his work so much that I didn't care. Now it's like I'm disliking Fennah more and more everyday, I just get weird vibes from him.
Locomotive meat
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Same aye
I'm glad I was able to form a strong wall between Kiwi Farms and his content, as when you like something you see less faults anyway (Kiwi Farms is on his content pure opinion to me. I really like his animation tests, enjoy them a lot, while others say it sucks so badly. That's ok. People may mark my best to worst as autistic, and I don't understand how the tests are disliked or why it was marked like that. That's alright and I won't shit on anyone who says they suck. You don't like it, I do lots, and I respect that too.)
Kiwi Farms or any threads about a person though is filled with truths and proof, and shows how the person really is, therefore:
Content = Opinion
Person = Truth and Exposition
And it doesn't matter really because you enjoy someone's content, not their person. One may be such a piece of -, but you support his content and not him, and most internet dumbfully doesn't understand that in some cases ehh
If Kiwi Farms would shatter my enjoyement of something, I'd rather leave Kiwi Farms
Kiwi Farms or any threads about a person though is filled with truths and proof, and shows how the person really is, therefore:
Content = Opinion
Person = Truth and Exposition
And it doesn't matter really because you enjoy someone's content, not their person. One may be such a piece of -, but you support his content and not him, and most internet dumbfully doesn't understand that in some cases ehh
If Kiwi Farms would shatter my enjoyement of something, I'd rather leave Kiwi Farms
JustMeLol2021
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Fennah's been working on commissions, just wanted to talk about the quality of these. There's something about the way he models fur that makes his designs look like... weird stuffed animals lol. Also we already discussed how he can't model claws anatomically correct to save his life, the claws look glued on.
When Fennah does model fur: Looks like a deformed taxidermy animal.
When Fennah doesn't model fur: Looks like a deformed animal with cheap shiny latex for skin. It irritates the fuck out of me that people pay for this, they can do so much better. Fennah could improve his modeling skills if he would just learn how anatomy works but he just doesn't, he refuses, he's stubborn as fuck.
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3D animation and modelling isn't his strong suit, as anything that isn't his own over refined models. Creature concepting is. Honestly, if he dropped the whole "biologically evolved" aspect from the Kivs and said they were born of pure nightmare or something, you know just say "fuck it, they're purely supernatural entities" all my massive ramblings spergs on his work would fall apart. Even my favourite design, Fontaine, has some severe biological issues, and I know the reality of the situation is that I like his design because he's a Tim Burton-esque nightmare creature, and I like Tim Burton's work, probably because I grew up with it.
I really don't get what he was thinking trying to excuse his nonsense by claiming "biological evolution" its absolutely retarded on his part.
Now to rip into these commissions fast, we'll cover them in order, or and since these are commissions that means the designs aren't likely to be Fennah's own, and since this is a thread ripping into Fennah, I will spare you spergs on the design and biology purely due to the fact these aren't Fennah's designs and biology failings, but the models themselves are free game:
The first issue is Fennah knows fucking nothing about composition and setting up a nice scene to take the shot in. It is a blue critter on a blue background. Absolute failure on the most basic artistic level to show off the model. It should ideally be on a orange back drop. The claws look like dried out bone rather than keratin, this is a bit of a failure when it comes to the material selection and texturing. The fur lacks any form of oil, it looks synthetic like a stuffed animal. The scales seem excessively large, while the face and ears look like they are made of clay or plastic. The eyes lack any form of texturing and are just glowing smooth plastic orbs shoved in the sockets. Oh, and the spikes and horns? They look like cracked fossilized bone rather than anything living. Not only that, but all the issues with it wouldn't even be hidden with some clever lighting without going so dark you can't even see what it is. It's just that bad.
This time around the back drop is far better and the fur looks far less synthetic, but not perfect, we are within the domain of acceptable at least. The big improvement it is good enough now to hide the issues with good lighting, you know, like what major big budget Hollywood movies do. The claws look like plastic though, and no amount of fancy lighting trickery can hide that, and the eyes look like glass orbs.
So the last bit is just a screenshot of a tweet, let me give you an archive of that, and then let's look at some images:
So we have no real texturing or material work on this, and it is WIP, so I can't even shit on what is here due to that, after all it'd be dishonest to rip into anything unfinished if the finished product somehow comes out at an acceptable level, but I think we should keep an eye out for the finished product, just so we can pick on it and compare it to this later, however I expect to see some clipping jank related to the double mouth, and those spines on the back will look absolutely horrendous once textured if I had to guess, same for whatever the textured skin looks like, as I suspect he's going to try and make it look like it has scales.
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