Sam Vogel "Antonovich" / Kaara / allthefoxes / theotherredfox / vincelocktip / samman412 / vlt412 / atf412 - Powertripping Discord staff member with a dash of cub-defending and furfaggotry, AKA the "cub porn Discord mod"

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Smug Cat

damn looks like ALLAH is with israel lol
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He's at it again in the /r/drama thread about the yiffinhell drama.

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Reynard

I regret nothing.
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Goddamn this tard really went all out for a sock account: he commissioned a icon, art, and was looking into getting discord a emote pack according to the last tweet from the sock twitter.
Show pics or it didn’t happen.
 

ExplosiveTeddybear

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The fact he's going around deleting (or asking his burt-buddies to delete for him) any posts mentioning he is ATF makes it all the more likely they're really are the de person. You'd think someone with his background would know how easy it is to figure that shit out, but then again, he's a small-dicked powerhungry no-lifer, snickering to himself how he's pwned all those stupid antis by being worse than them. Or something.
 

Meowthkip

We had fun, didn't we?
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I've gotten confirmation that u/KaaraRaven is not actually Sam, and is somebody else living in the UK.

It appears there's been some convergent thinking here, both having raven fursonas named after the Japanese karasu tengu, which can also be spelled as kaarasutengu or kārasutengu. So this isn't much different from two different dudes naming their fox fursonas kitsunefox or kitsufox or something along those lines. It's just a lot more rare being that birds aren't as common for fursona types as foxes are, so it's a weird coincidence.

I can confirm this as I have been contacted by u/KaaraRaven and have been shown proof he's not the same dude, and he's certainly not living in San Francisco.


EDIT: DISREGARD THIS, I SUCK COCKS, HE FUCKING TRICKED ME AND I WAS DUMB ENOUGH TO FALL FOR IT.
 
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omori

go the fuck to sleep
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Okay, but what's the context?
First one is referring to the recent attempt at minors in the community trying to make their own space and nsfw artists, mentally stunted adults, and child predators being upset about this.

Second is the weakest shit I’ve ever seen.
 

Reynard

I regret nothing.
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First one is referring to the recent attempt at minors in the community trying to make their own space and nsfw artists, mentally stunted adults, and child predators being upset about this.

Second is the weakest shit I’ve ever seen.
Provide evidence, please. Preferably do that whenever you show news from here on out because if you can't prove your point with hard evidence it's probably not a good point.
 

Uncle Warren

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I've gotten confirmation that u/KaaraRaven is not actually Sam, and is somebody else living in the UK.

It appears there's been some convergent thinking here, both having raven fursonas named after the Japanese karasu tengu, which can also be spelled as kaarasutengu or kārasutengu. So this isn't much different from two different dudes naming their fox fursonas kitsunefox or kitsufox or something along those lines. It's just a lot more rare being that birds aren't as common for fursona types as foxes are, so it's a weird coincidence.

I can confirm this as I have been contacted by u/KaaraRaven and have been shown proof he's not the same dude, and he's certainly not living in San Francisco.
So the last few pages were essentially bullshit...

The question is CAN we salvage it? I mean Kaara is a faggot on their own. Maybe, JUST MAYBE, there can be a thread on him if there's anything interesting.
 

Pixy

Yo, buddy. Still alive
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Anyone who thinks they are original by translating a noun to Latin or Japanese just gives us situations like this one because a thousand other people have had the same idea already.
It's more obnoxious when they don't understand/know the language.
 

CockPockets

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I've gotten confirmation that u/KaaraRaven is not actually Sam, and is somebody else living in the UK.

It appears there's been some convergent thinking here, both having raven fursonas named after the Japanese karasu tengu, which can also be spelled as kaarasutengu or kārasutengu. So this isn't much different from two different dudes naming their fox fursonas kitsunefox or kitsufox or something along those lines. It's just a lot more rare being that birds aren't as common for fursona types as foxes are, so it's a weird coincidence.

I can confirm this as I have been contacted by u/KaaraRaven and have been shown proof he's not the same dude, and he's certainly not living in San Francisco.
Can you at least post some slither of evidence that confirms this? The 2018 documents exposing PK and Eevee were released without the author's permission. Surely this doesn't need to stay private.
 

CIA Nigger

Not a fed, just a random object on the street.
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The question is CAN we salvage it? I mean Kaara is a faggot on their own. Maybe, JUST MAYBE, there can be a thread on him if there's anything interesting.
If they're different people than the Kaara discussion would be better off in the Reddit thread (along with some stuff in the OP changed to mention this). Everyone on other sites has run with this for so long that it should be cleared up with an OP edit for sure.
 

Meowthkip

We had fun, didn't we?
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Can you at least post some slither of evidence that confirms this? The 2018 documents exposing PK and Eevee were released without the author's permission. Surely this doesn't need to stay private.

I would but this guy is extremely paranoid and in order to get this confirmation, I had to assure him that I would not post it.

Part of my job as a moderator involves keeping things in confidence if a source needs to be verified but only wants to do so privately. I have absolutely no vested interest in this dude, I have no idea who he is, I don't know him from Adam, but he was very much freaked out that he was accused of being Sam.

I can give you my word that this is a different dude, he provided evidence of a UK driver's license that was timestamped, and since he is a different dude, he's no longer relevant to this thread.

Anyone who thinks they are original by translating a noun to Latin or Japanese just gives us situations like this one because a thousand other people have had the same idea already.

Yeah, this, pretty much. You know how many foxes named Reynard there are in the furry fandom?

Way too goddamn many,

... @Reynard
 

CIA Nigger

Not a fed, just a random object on the street.
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I would but this guy is extremely paranoid and in order to get this confirmation, I had to assure him that I would not post it.

Part of my job as a moderator involves keeping things in confidence if a source needs to be verified but only wants to do so privately. I have absolutely no vested interest in this dude, I have no idea who he is, I don't know him from Adam, but he was very much freaked out that he was accused of being Sam.

I can give you my word that this is a different dude, he provided evidence of a UK driver's license that was timestamped, and since he is a different dude, he's no longer relevant to this thread.
I've updated the OP to point this out in case some /r/drama users end up confusing the two again since Redditors believe they're one and the same.
 

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