San Francisco residents cover sidewalks in rocks to keep away homeless - Well if the city won't help...

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Around my neck of the woods, Narcan (The anti-overdose drug) has made the problem with druggies worse.

Since ALL first responders are now legally required to have Narcan on them, the local crackheads are "Pushing the limits", doing shit that they know will almost certainly end in an overdose, because they know some poor cop will be required to save them with Narcan.

Drug fatalities have plummeted, but drug use has skyrocketed and first responders are constantly tied up with "Overdosing crackhead in my back yard" calls.

It's fucking ridiculous. Especially since that Narcan isn't cheap. It's devouring the entire police/fire/EMS budget in a matter of months.
I believe I was still lurking at the time, but a Kiwi who was either a first responder or knew one well shared their experiences once Narcan became a legally required item to keep on hand. The story was pretty much a carbon copy of this one with comments to the effect that many of the people receiving Narcan are "frequent flyers" in that the same drug users are having Narcan administered multiple times when it's clear they've done nothing to try to treat their addictions.

Efforts to administer emergency medical care to someone in urgent need are generally understandable. However, it seems reasonable for people to question the value of administering Narcan multiple times to the same person who has neither interest nor desire to treat their addictions. Unfortunately, the same activists who believe the homeless should have free choice to squat wherever they want and use any public place as their personal porta-potty are the same activists that think every drug user no matter how unwilling to try to kick the habit deserves to be saved with Narcan each and every time they overdose. They care not that taxpayers end up footing the bill for this and have a vested interest in making sure their cities' limited tax dollars are being used wisely.

I'm pretty sure these same activists would also object on "civil rights/liberties" reasons if frequent Narcan recipients were either encouraged or required to get rehab after x number of Narcan doses in an attempt to address and curtail drug abuse.

Sadly, it's not surprising that there are people now that -- because of this and because 911 expects them to physically check on overdose victims who may be violent or confrontational if examined by a stranger in their drug-induced state -- would rather wait for an overdose victim to die before calling 911 or the police simply because it's less of a hassle and financial drain on the system. It may not be right or ideal to see a human life be evaulated largely in terms of dollar signs, but it's understandable in these particular circumstances. *sigh*:heart-empty:
 
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I believe I was still lurking at the time, but a Kiwi who was either a first responder or knew one well shared their experiences once Narcan became a legally required item to keep on hand. The story was pretty much a carbon copy of this one with comments to the effect that many of the people receiving Narcan are "frequent flyers" in that the same drug users are having Narcan administered multiple times when it's clear they've done nothing to try to treat their addictions.

Efforts to administer emergency medical care to someone in urgent need are generally understandable. However, it seems reasonable for people to question the value of administering Narcan multiple times to the same person who has neither interest nor desire to treat their addictions. Unfortunately, the same activists who believe the homeless should have free choice to squat wherever they want and use any public place as their personal porta-potty are the same activists that think every drug user no matter how unwilling to try to kick the habit deserves to be saved with Narcan each and every time they overdose. They care not that taxpayers end up footing the bill for this and have a vested interest in making sure their cities' limited tax dollars are being used wisely.

I'm pretty sure these same activists would also object on "civil rights/liberties" reasons if frequent Narcan recipients were either encouraged or required to get rehab after x number of Narcan doses in an attempt to address and curtail drug abuse.

Sadly, it's not surprising that there are people now that -- because of this and because 911 expects them to physically check on overdose victims who may be violent or confrontational if examined by a stranger in their drug-induced state -- would rather wait for an overdose victim to die before calling 911 or the police simply because it's less of a hassle and financial drain on the system. It may not be right or ideal to see a human life be evaulated largely in terms of dollar signs, but it's understandable in these particular circumstances. *sigh*:heart-empty:
It gets better. Probably 90% of those expensive Narcan doses were unnecessary. They stopped a bad trip. But it likely wasn't an actual overdose. And how do we know this? Because A. They still had sufficient vitals for the nasal version of Narcan to work. and B. They didn't wander off someplace and die an hour later as the Narcan wore off. I'm ex EMS. The common proliferation of Narcan is at best a mixed blessing. It's good to get it into the patient early before respiratory shut down occurs. But it is now being so widely used by people that have no idea how and when it works that it starts to create its own problems. The biggest is Narcan only lasts for a short time. ~30 minutes or so. Heroin lasts in the blood stream longer than Narcan. So once the Narcan hit fades... the heroin or opiate kicks in again. The main premise of Narcan in an emergency is to buy enough time to get the OD'ing idiot into a controlled ER environment where he can be stabilized. The whole trip to the ER after administering is supposed to be baked into it.
 

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After narcan the junkies here would get fucked up at the numerous bus stops our city is so gosh darn proud of. It's a safe place to OD, you see. Public employee there every 10 minutes who is required to call it in. Never less than 2 ambulances at bus stops at a time within a few mile stretch working on someone. They also run EVERYONE off, are hyper violent, and of course the feces. Thanks narcan.
 
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