Saying 'there are women, and if you do not like fuck you' is very important for videogames. -

[UnclePhil]

Maaaaaaybe because most games are focused on combat and mechanics and In that context, It's hard to explore if they like dick or vag. I mean, Samus and Chell might just as well be asexual 5,7 ft tall cubes of Tofu for all that their clitoris matter to the plot. The same could be said about Doom Guy's and Adol the Red's prostates. Two examples were brought up in this thread which exemplify what I am talking about, Overwatch and TaleTell's Walking Dead. In Overwatch every non white, non straight character feels like pandering when those aspects are brought up because that doesn't matter in an online shooter, when in TWD which is a game about humans and the decisions that they make in a given time and place, you need to know who they are and stuff like race, gender and sexual preference become relevant because It's actual writting and not pandering.

This.

It brings up an interesting point: who's sexualizing who? Who other than SJWs and troons are so hellbent on characters' genitals being the focal point of the whole goddamned game? Most players are preoccupied with shooting shit, discovering secrets and unlocking achievements. They don't have time to stop and think "You know Samus has a vagina and there is some deeper meaning behind that." More like, "That's the fastest I've ever gotten 'Sky Missile.'"

 

[Block Me]

This.

It brings up an interesting point: who's sexualizing who? Who other than SJWs and troons are so hellbent on characters' genitals being the focal point of the whole goddamned game? Most players are preoccupied with shooting shit, discovering secrets and unlocking achievements. They don't have time to stop and think "You know Samus has a vagina and there is some deeper meaning behind that." More like, "That's the fastest I've ever gotten 'Sky Missile.'"

For real, I never bought this whole "gamers hate wimminz and don't want to play with them" bit because Metroid is extremely popular in nerdy gaming circles and literally no one cares that Samus is female. They only care about pulling off the bridge skip and shaving microseconds off the final escape. You make a good, solid game with a female protag and nerds will eat it up. The first part is what devs are struggling with.

 

[Slap47]

This.

It brings up an interesting point: who's sexualizing who? Who other than SJWs and troons are so hellbent on characters' genitals being the focal point of the whole goddamned game? Most players are preoccupied with shooting shit, discovering secrets and unlocking achievements. They don't have time to stop and think "You know Samus has a vagina and there is some deeper meaning behind that." More like, "That's the fastest I've ever gotten 'Sky Missile.'"

They play shit like Mass Effect 99 percent of the time. They just extrapolate that most games and their communities are sex focused.

Not even anime titty games make sex such a focus.

 

[Your Weird Fetish]

This.

It brings up an interesting point: who's sexualizing who? Who other than SJWs and troons are so hellbent on characters' genitals being the focal point of the whole goddamned game? Most players are preoccupied with shooting shit, discovering secrets and unlocking achievements. They don't have time to stop and think "You know Samus has a vagina and there is some deeper meaning behind that." More like, "That's the fastest I've ever gotten 'Sky Missile.'"

More like " damn Samus has a nice rack". It's been a long time since the only time you saw her outside the suit was the end of the game.

 

[UnclePhil]

Not even anime titty games make sex such a focus.

1500 pages of text about the AV club and 200 more about how your childhood friend used to cry when she couldn't have cake. Branching dialogue choices, more text, and then sex...maybe.

Hell, a main goal in Meltys Quest is rebuilding a castle. There's even an optional path where you don't get fucked.

 

[Y2K Baby]

That game is 15 years old and a commercial failure.

So's your mom.

 

[Ruin]

They play shit like Mass Effect 99 percent of the time. They just extrapolate that most games and their communities are sex focused.

Not even anime titty games make sex such a focus.

True, most hentai games allow for a virgin run. These people are so gender/genital obsessed that literal porn has less of a focus on it.

 

[LN 910]

TL;DR. Somebody summarise.

Gamergate was never about women. It's just that the media decided to run with that narrative because the initial cheating ex story exposed a lot of connections between Publishers, Games Journalists, Developers, Games Competitions, Games Award shows. I mean everyone knew there was corruption, but not to the level where indie developers had their whole career already signed and delivered. The whole thing was a smokescreen to invalidate any critique of how the system was running, because that's the way they liked it.

Zoe Quinn was part of Indiecade, Indiecade was under it's parent company Gamasutra. Gamasutra also owned the GDC, the California Games Developers Conference.

Gamasutras Head Editor at the time was Leigh Alexander, she was a former longtime Kotaku writer, who was now also Head Tech Editor for TIME Magazine and VICE all at the same time. Zoe Quinns publicist Maya Kramer was under the employ of Silverstring Media, the same company run by Joshua Mcintosh and Anita Sarkeesian at the time. And all of these people were also members together at the IGDA. The Independent Games Developer Association. And those are just the first glance connections.

Now do you think they are just going to out their entire own little set up they have going to you? Fuck no, they are going to drag you through the mud til no one believes a word you say.

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People always talk about SJWs like Leigh still having careers but I haven't heard of them in years. Are you sure she hasn't drank herself to death yet?

 

[Adolf Von Merkel]

TL;DR. Somebody summarise.

He liked Zoë Quinn book and wanted to talk about how gaymers are sexist.

 

[LN 910]

"He liked a Zoe Quinn book"
LOL.

 

[c-no]

For real, I never bought this whole "gamers hate wimminz and don't want to play with them" bit because Metroid is extremely popular in nerdy gaming circles and literally no one cares that Samus is female. They only care about pulling off the bridge skip and shaving microseconds off the final escape. You make a good, solid game with a female protag and nerds will eat it up. The first part is what devs are struggling with.

While most gamers won't really give a shit about drama, some people will buy into the idea of "gamers hating wimminz" because they had one bad encounter with some sped during a game of Overwatch or seeing tweets from the same gamer sperg such as Homer Beoulve. Making a solid game would probably be a challenge for some of these people. It'll probably be the explanation as to why they would hype about some other aspect like how playing a black woman must be a huge talking point.

TL;DR. Somebody summarise.

People always talk about SJWs like Leigh still having careers but I haven't heard of them in years. Are you sure she hasn't drank herself to death yet?

Does running a Twitter account where they probably bitch about misogynerds and gamers count as a career? As for Leigh herself, probably needs to done a hundred more bottles since she did make a tweet a few months back after the death of Total Biscuit.