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True & Honest Fan
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Gahdamn it's a long ass post again guys sorry prime sperging here. I've told myself I wasn't going to make this because (1) I just made a long ass post like 3 posts ago (2) we're all in sort of a post-coom endorphin bath after the "fall" of Bright, just kicking our feet up waiting to see how the rest of the dominoes fall, and (3) at some point this is just splitting hairs in a bigger story about a greater good. But there’s a lot of bad information going around about the basics of the Russian branch vs Duksin case.

I think everyone on the face of the planet, me too, is on the side of SCP when it comes to this Andrei Duksin guy and his illegitimate trademarking in Russia and the Eurasian Customs Union (basically a handful of former USSR countries), except this bunch who have some funny shit to say about it.

The whole thing is so outrageous and infuriating to everyone because Duskin really has no legal standing at all. The Russian trademarking authorities are known to accept bribes to do illegitimate shit and are probably almost as corrupt as the SCP crew, which might be how he got the TM in the first place, how's that for karma. Duksin is going to end up losing a lot of money and probably his company once this finally gets settled. Which is kinda a shame, because the works in those 3 art books of his are fucking amazing, highest-quality SCP artwork I've ever seen and it isn't even close. It stomps the shit out of all the MS paint squiggles and ahegao-faced 049s that are basically the status quo coming out of the English SCP Wiki communities.

From a legal perspective, the TM could only have happened and is theoretically only even applicable in Russia and the ECU countries, because (1) russian (and chinese) trademark systems are corrupt as fuck and good luck repeating that shit anywhere else; and (2) a bit of fundamental info about trademarks is that your trademark registration in one country doesn't give you any protection in another.[1][2][3][4] There are international entities for globalizing trademarks like the Madrid System, Nice Agreement, and the Trademark Law Treaty, which Russia is a part of, but they are all designed to make legit trademarking internationally more streamlined and economically convenient, not fucking automatic because you paid off some crooked insky to win a bullshit TM case in Russia.

To actually get your regional trademark global, you have to go through a preliminary fact check (that costs money) but also two excruciatingly severe, manual review cases after -- one through the global governing bodies overseeing those agreements and systems, and again for the specific review boards in each country you are hoping to get your trademark applied to -- in addition to paying the equivalent of $2,600 for the whole process (for the US only, that cost goes up per country you want to apply to), just to fail in this case. So Duksin's TM in Russia is a far cry from being even remotely plausible anywhere else and a cheap son of a bitch like him isn't going to throw that much money at something even his dumb ass knows won't get anywhere. Plus, you can check out the actual trademark (1, 2) and see that it doesn't have an international qualifier pending or rejected or anything.

But yet based on seemingly contradictory, at least wishy-washy statements from the head of SCP's internet outreach team and its subordinate members, it seems like the SCP staff wasn't very careful or on the same page regarding when and how to front the possibility that the trademark battle could either threaten just the Russian branch or literally all other branches of the SCP, including the english branch, and all the fps games like CB and the content regurgitators that most people who like the SCP Foundation actually like it for.

This can appear like knowingly trying to wring out the rag just a wee bit more. I’m not saying thet this was intentional per se, just not careful or clear enough, and boy what a mess. SCP IO has got to avoid sloppiness like this if they’re going to do their job (which is to avoid another End-of-the-Credibility Summer 2018 scenario).
We go here and read Modern_Erasmus first briefing the community on the initial episode of the drama. He is the captain of the internet outreach team, a wiki admin, and head mod of r/scp (you know, the place that censors the truth). This post is back in May 2019 when the SCP Wiki and the Russian branch were releasing statements on the situation:
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Alright no problem, they are going to try to resolve it bureaucratically at this point in time by being like "hey stop or we will sue your ass", which usually works on twats. Then, 6 months later, Duksin is a twat again, taking down the Russian branch's official VK account (VK is basically Russian facebook) and some other fan stuff, using the trademark to convince VK which doesn't know shit about SCP and basically is a pussy about it. So a new round of offense is launched by the SCP and the Russian branch:
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So the stakes are raised yeah and this is now an emergency because the dude actually took down two exclusively Russian social media pages and is sperging about some sinecure position on the Russian branch. "Theoretically" he could do the same to the Russian Wiki, except there's no way he can, because Wikidot is very aware of SCP and wouldn't cave like VK did (who don't know any better really and are just trying to lay low). Plus it makes zero sense for Duskin to do that if he relies on the Russian wiki to make his products and money and wants to use it as a platform for his merchandise.

Now Russian branch and papa english wiki are right pissed off and they are going to open that legal account they politely declined when other people suggested donations for it last time Duskin did this shit 6 months ago. But nothing has changed in regards to the region that the trademark has any sway in. He had been threatening SCP merch sellers for a while. Doing anything outside of Russia and those -zikstans is still just as impossible, nothing’s really changed there. So there's just as non-existent of a threat to anyone outside Russia and those -stans still.

If you don't take my word for it, Modern_Erasmus says the same thing as his first statement again in a recent editorial for KnowYourMeme on SCP in April 2020:
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And again here:
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And here, in as many words:
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While other members of the community outreach team post kinda the opposite like here:
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as well as propaganda-level fliers to their official social media accounts that would have post-COVID marketing teams fapping off to the cringey sentimentality that has come to define what an SCP and SCP author is these days:
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...and then the spectacle moves to the secondary tier of mouthpieces for the site and its community:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BuuNTGeavN4

...and finally from them straight onto the conveyor belt of well-meaning, but by this point just incorrect and incredibly popular YouTube influencers who either repeat the misinformation or get it plain wrong themselves for millions of viewers and donators:
- Markiplier (>3M views), who doesn't actually know what the hell is going on at the SCP because in the video he is surprised to discover there were thousands of SCPs instead of just hundreds. The scope of the threat was unclear enough for Markiplier to say that if Duskin wins here, that "gives him an argument for all the other countries and branches of the SCP," when this is not true he doesn't even stand a chance to win the actual case in Russia. His video doubled the funds from ~$60,000 to >$120,000 in 16 hours.

- Dr. Cimmerian's 3 videos on it (1, 2, 3,) where he says the same things and changes his tune 180 degrees as well - from "the core problem won't affect you" in video #1, to "we need your money to keep SCP content free" in #2, to finally "Obviously this is a threat to the SCP Foundation, not just in Russia and countries covered by the ECU, but worldwide, because if he can enforce it there, he can enforce it elsewhere." in #3. He also hyena laughs at Duksin's Patreon account because he sees it has/had $5 in donations total without realizing that his ARTSCP VK account has about 102k followers, that he's sold >25,000 of his books, and that at ~18 USD per book has made the equivalent of about $450,000 in revenue off them; then says "it's amazing how much trouble a single person with no following can cause for the SCP wiki". I'm just saying that it just goes to show how little people actually know about the situation, even people who hold hands with the wiki and its staff, and how much they just take at face value whatever the guy to their left in the long line of bandwagoners just said.

- Game Theory (>2.8M views) who actually does a pretty good job with the info and even concedes that "there's nothing he can do to threaten the SCP Foundation outside of Russia" and that Duskin "can't lay claim to the [English] Wiki because he has the trademark but not the copyright itself" but still pushes that this threatens the principle of
Creative Commons works, and that could somehow mean a slippery slope argument for CC works worldwide. Just no.

- SCP Illustrated's videos on it (1, 2); he does mention that it's limited to RU and other countries only, but reads Modern_Erasmus's post word-for-word to 140,000 people in video #2 along with his own statement of "He will then pose a threat to all other SCP Wikis as well, including the ones that you view such as [lists all the most popular YT regurgitation channels]." and "We can't just sit back and let SCP go to ruin".

- TheQuartering's video (>82k views) says that if Duksin succeeds in this trial that he can then "make other claims for all the other branches" even as you can literally see his neurons struggling to connect the words together with absolute nothing to connect it with. The rest of his video is horrendously misinformed; he props up the legal battle with Duskin as a chance to defend "fair use", which he is a proud champion of, but only applies here in the most common-language use of the two words and not at all in any legal sense. (Don't believe me, take it from El Captain himself:
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- The Volgun's three videos on it (1, 2, 3); in the first he says that it doesn't apply outside Russia and the ECU countries, but then goes into how "in theory" this could destroy all of the wiki. In the second one, he just reads Modern_Erasmus's statement in a walkie-talkie EQ. In the third video, he talks to Modern_Erasmus about what the consequences of the lawsuit going in Duksin's direction would mean. He mentions that "the positions of all of the other SCP Wikis could be threatened" and is the only one I came across who next asks "well what does this mean?" He goes on to say that, "as has been explained to me [by Modern_Erasmus]", Duksin's win would "send a really bad precedent... because no one wants that to happen." Disappointingly, there is no real reason, legal or otherwise, provided by Volgun or M_E by proxy here either after the tease, and then gets someone to read Duksin's lines in a 1920's telephone EQ with the crappiest Russian accent voice acting I've ever heard.

- CavemanFilms video on it (>12k views) doesn't understand what CC is and that anyone can monetize your SCP shit at any time with no legal recourse on your part whatsoever. "He could theoretically try to apply his SCP trademark to absolutely everything."

There are so many others that just read Modern_Erasmus's confusing statement on it and don't think twice about it even if they said the opposite a video earlier. It’s like SCP had a raging boner for being gifted some legit moral high-ground for a change. But I am tired & you're fucking welcome I had to listen to all this shit. Everyone has the "in theory he could take over all of SCP" tacked on to the videos and no one knows why they say it or even a clue that it is 100% wrong and a legal impossibility. Hm.

...and it’s just a mess. I get it, yeah it threatens the whole community because this guy is an asshole and on principle but to be frank, it doesn’t actually threaten the whole community and people are believing and repeating that too easily. Just wanted to clear the air about that.

If I did a bit more here, I'd go to the actual donations page and see if any comments indicate that the people who donated clearly believe that the English branch of the SCP Wiki, and the first-person video games, and all that stuff they’ve ever loved about SCP was about to die if they didn't fork over their monthly Steam and IMVU allowances ASAP.


I hope Duksin loses, I think most people wouldn't really care if it only affected the Russian wiki and would still donate like they did, and hell I donated to the fund too.

P.S. The next legal meeting on the topic is May 22nd, so maybe some updates then if there are any.
 

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PurpleMan69

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Gahdamn it's a long ass post again guys sorry prime sperging here. I've told myself I wasn't going to make this because (1) I just made a long ass post like 3 posts ago (2) we're all in sort of a post-coom endorphin bath after the "fall" of Bright, just kicking our feet up waiting to see how the rest of the dominoes fall, and (3) at some point this is just splitting hairs in a bigger story about a greater good. But there’s a lot of misinformation going around about the basics of the Russian branch vs Duksin case.

I think everyone on the face of the planet, me too, is on the side of SCP when it comes to this Andrei Duksin guy and his illegitimate trademarking in Russia and the Eurasian Customs Union (basically a handful of former USSR countries), except this bunch who have some funny shit to say about it.

The whole thing is so outrageous and infuriating to everyone because Duskin really has no legal standing at all. The Russian trademarking authorities are known to accept bribes to do illegitimate shit and are probably almost as corrupt as the SCP crew, which might be how he got the TM in the first place, how's that for karma. Duksin is going to end up losing a lot of money and probably his company once this finally gets settled. Which is kinda a shame, because the works in those 3 art books of his are fucking amazing, highest-quality SCP artwork I've ever seen and it isn't even close. It stomps the shit out of all the MS paint squiggles and ahegao-faced 049s that are basically the status quo coming out of the English SCP Wiki communities.

From a legal perspective, the TM could only have happened and is only even theoretically applicable in Russia and the ECU countries, because (1) russian (and chinese) trademark systems are corrupt as fuck and good luck repeating that shit anywhere else; and (2) a bit of fundamental info about trademarks is that your trademark registration in one country doesn't give you any protection in another.[1][2][3][4] There are international entities for globalizing trademarks like the Madrid System, Nice Agreement, and the Trademark Law Treaty, which Russia is a part of, but they are all designed to make legit trademarking internationally more streamlined and economically convenient, not fucking automatic because you paid off some crooked insky to win a bullshit TM case in Russia.

To actually get your regional trademark global, you have to go through a preliminary fact check (that costs money) but also two excruciatingly severe, manual review cases after -- one through the global governing bodies overseeing those agreements and systems, and again for the specific review boards in each country you are hoping to get your trademark applied to -- in addition to paying the equivalent of $2,600 for the whole process (for the US only, that cost goes up per country you want to apply to), just to fail in this case. So Duksin's TM in Russia is a far cry from being even remotely plausible anywhere else and a cheap son of a bitch like him isn't going to throw that much money at something even his dumb ass knows won't get anywhere. Plus, you can check out the actual trademark (1, 2) and see that it doesn't have an international qualifier pending or rejected or anything.

But yet based on seemingly contradictory statements from the head of SCP's internet outreach team and its subordinate members, it seems like the SCP staff wasn't very careful or on the same page regarding when and how to front the possibility that the trademark battle could either threaten just the Russian branch or literally all other branches of the SCP, including the english branch, and all the fps games like CB and the content regurgitators that most people who like the SCP Foundation actually like it for.

This can appear like knowingly trying to wring out the rag just a wee bit more. I’m not saying thet this was intentional per se, just not careful or clear enough, and boy what a mess.
We go here and read Modern_Erasmus first briefing the community on the initial episode of the drama. He is the captain of the internet outreach team, a wiki admin, and head mod of r/scp (you know, the place that censors the truth). This post is back in May 2019 when the SCP Wiki and the Russian branch were releasing statements on the situation:
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Alright no problem, they are going to try to resolve it bureaucratically at this point in time by being like "hey stop or we will sue your ass", which usually works on twats. Then, 6 months later, Duksin is a twat again, taking down the Russian branch's official VK account (VK is basically Russian facebook) and some other fan stuff, using the trademark to convince VK which doesn't know shit about SCP and basically is a pussy about it. So a new round of offense is launched by the SCP and the Russian branch:
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So the stakes are raised yeah and this is now an emergency because the dude actually took down two exclusively Russian social media pages and is sperging about some sinecure position on the Russian branch. "Theoretically" he could do the same to the Russian Wiki, except there's no way he can, because Wikidot is very aware of SCP and wouldn't cave like VK did (who don't know any better really and are just trying to lay low). Plus it makes zero sense for Duskin to do that if he relies on the Russian wiki to make his products and money and wants to use it as a platform for his merchandise.

Now Russian branch and papa english wiki are right pissed off and they are going to open that legal account they politely declined when other people suggested donations for it last time Duskin did this shit 6 months ago. But nothing has changed in regards to the region that the trademark has any sway in. He had been threatening SCP merch sellers for a while. Doing anything outside of Russia and those -zikstans is still just as impossible, nothing’s really changed there. So there's just as non-existent of a threat to anyone outside Russia and those -stans still.

If you don't take my word for it, Modern_Erasmus says the same thing as his first statement again in a recent editorial for KnowYourMeme on SCP in April 2020:
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And again here:
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And here, in as many words:
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While other members of the community outreach team post kinda the opposite like here:
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as well as propaganda-level fliers to their official social media accounts that would have post-COVID marketing teams fapping off to the cringey sentimentality that has come to define what an SCP and SCP author is these days:
...and then the spectacle moves to the secondary tier of mouthpieces for the site and its community:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BuuNTGeavN4

...and finally straight to the conveyor belt of well-meaning, but by this point just incorrect and incredibly popular YouTube influencers who either repeat the misinformation or get it plain wrong themselves for millions of viewers and donators:
- Markiplier (>3M views), who doesn't actually know what the hell is going on at the SCP because in the video he is surprised to discover there were thousands of SCPs instead of just hundreds, and had no clue what SCP-4000 was, clearly never seen it before. The scope of the threat was unclear enough for Markiplier to say that if Duskin wins here, that "gives him an argument for all the other countries and branches of the SCP," when this is not true he doesn't even stand a chance to win the actual case in Russia. His video doubled the funds from ~$60,000 to >$120,000 in 16 hours.

- Dr. Cimmerian's 3 videos on it (1, 2, 3,) where he says the same things and changes his tune 180 degrees as well - from "the core problem won't affect you" in video #1, to "we need your money to keep SCP content free" in #2, to finally "Obviously this is a threat to the SCP Foundation, not just in Russia and countries covered by the ECU, but worldwide, because if he can enforce it there, he can enforce it elsewhere." in #3. He also hyena laughs at Duksin's Patreon account because he sees it has/had $5 in donations total without realizing that his ARTSCP VK account has about 102k followers, that he's sold >25,000 of his books, and that at ~18 USD per book has made the equivalent of about $450,000 in revenue off them; then says "it's amazing how much trouble a single person with no following can cause for the SCP wiki". I'm just saying that it just goes to show how little people actually know about the situation, even people who hold hands with the wiki and its staff, and how much they just take at face value whatever the guy to their left in the long line of bandwagoners just said.

- Game Theory (>2.8M views) who actually does a pretty good job with the info and even concedes that "there's nothing he can do to threaten the SCP Foundation outside of Russia" and that Duskin "can't lay claim to the [English] Wiki because he has the trademark but not the copyright itself" but still pushes that this threatens the principle of
Creative Commons works, and that could somehow mean a slippery slope argument for CC works worldwide. Just no.

- SCP Illustrated's videos on it (1, 2); he does mention that it's limited to RU and other countries only, but reads Modern_Erasmus's post word-for-word to 140,000 people in video #2 along with his own statement of "He will then pose a threat to all other SCP Wikis as well, including the ones that you view such as [lists all the most popular YT regurgitation channels]." and "We can't just sit back and let SCP go to ruin".

- TheQuartering's video (>82k views) says that if Duksin succeeds in this trial that he can then "make other claims for all the other branches" even as you can literally see his neurons struggling to connect the words together with absolute nothingness. The rest of his video is horrendously misinformed; he props up the legal battle with Duskin as a chance to defend "fair use", which he is a proud champion of, but only applies here in the most common-language use of the two words and not at all in any legal sense. (Don't believe me, take it from El Captain himself:
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- The Volgun's three videos on it (1, 2, 3); in the first he says that it doesn't apply outside Russia and the ECU countries, but then goes into how "in theory" this could destroy all of the wiki. In the second one, he just reads Modern_Erasmus's statement in a walkie-talkie EQ. In the third video, he talks to Modern_Erasmus about what the consequences of the lawsuit going in Duksin's direction would mean. He mentions that "the positions of all of the other SCP Wikis could be threatened" and is the only one I came across who next asks "well what does this mean?" He goes on to say that, "as has been explained to me [by Modern_Erasmus]", Duksin's win would "send a really bad precedent... because no one wants that to happen." Disappointingly, there is no real reason, legal or otherwise, provided by Volgun or M_E by proxy here either after the tease, and then gets someone to read Duksin's lines in a 1920's telephone EQ with the crappiest Russian accent voice acting I've ever heard.

- CavemanFilms video on it (>12k views) doesn't understand what CC is and that anyone can monetize your SCP shit at any time with no legal recourse on your part whatsoever. "He could theoretically try to apply his SCP trademark to absolutely everything."

There are so many others that just read Modern_Erasmus's confusing statement on it and don't think twice about it even if they said the opposite a video earlier probably due to a raging roid state. But I am tired & you're fucking welcome I had to listen to all this shit. Everyone has the "in theory he could take over all of SCP" tacked on to the videos and no one knows why they say it or even a clue that it is 100% wrong and a legal impossibility. Hm.

...and it’s just a mess. I get it, yeah it threatens the whole community because this guy is an asshole and on principle but to be frank, it doesn’t actually threaten the whole community and people are believing and repeating that too easily. Just wanted to clear the air about that.

If I did a bit more here, I'd go to the actual donations page and see if any comments indicate that the people who donated clearly believe that the English branch of the SCP Wiki, and the first-person video games, and all that stuff they’ve ever loved about SCP was about to die if they didn't fork over their monthly Steam and IMVU allowances ASAP.


I hope Duksin loses, I think most people wouldn't really care if it only affected the Russian wiki and would still donate like they did, and hell I donated to the fund too.

P.S. The next legal meeting on the topic is May 22nd, so maybe some updates then if there are any.
Wonder if they're gonna update the GoFundMe again because of this post.
 

Disc

Corruption in the CD-Rom
kiwifarms.net
where does most of this pedophile stuff happen? I really doubt they would be stupid enough to have on the main discord if SCP has one
IRC chats, mostly. They're hard as hell to 'sneak' into and peep on. It's why Cyantreuse and the like spilling the beans here was so valuable.

There's definitely discord chats as well, but I don't believe there's an 'official' one. you can't ipban someone from a discord chat, after all.
 

DungeonMaster

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I really dislike videos like these that try and explain how an SCP was created and sometimes just make up shit, the mysterious backgrounds of SCPs are part of what makes them interesting.
It's a bit sad, really. I was a fan of SCP in its heyday. Mainstream attention seemed like something impossible. Now that they're completely undermining its atmosphere, both onsite and offsite, it's like there is no artistic direction. All the incredibly stupid tumblr headcanons of popular SCPs being quirky have given the community the same attitude as Merreyweatherey's Clinic of Horrors. It's no longer horror explained in a bureaucratic way, but now it's a stupid orgy of giggling about how quirky and weird everybody involved in it is.
 

Mexican_Wizard_711

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and 127 others

“full kiwifarms fascist”
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After looking through that, the horny guy is mildly annoying at worst. Seriously, these posts are harmless compared to Doctor "SCP Weinstein" Bright's chat-logs where he admitted to encouraging minors to engage in convention orgies.

oh and the SCP article that guy gets in trouble for commenting on is literally a game controller that jizzes on you when you use it.

edit: https://archive.md/bdrN7
x2 edit: ^ also rapey and molesty. article written by weasel boi Roget
 
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AnOminous

But I'm not mad at anyone.
True & Honest Fan
Retired Staff
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After looking through that, the horny guy is mildly annoying at worst. Seriously, these posts are harmless compared to Doctor "SCP Weinstein" Bright's chat-logs where he admitted to encouraging minors to engage in convention orgies.

The SJW cries out "sex pest" as he molests your kid.
 

AoS

with gusto
True & Honest Fan
kiwifarms.net
After looking through that, the horny guy is mildly annoying at worst. Seriously, these posts are harmless compared to Doctor "SCP Weinstein" Bright's chat-logs where he admitted to encouraging minors to engage in convention orgies.
From the user’s chat disc thread:
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Oh my in that chat paste the staff act like they’ve always treated adult topics as wrongthink. Okay I think they are overplaying their hand waaaay too much here, but it’s obviously cause of a now solid reputation of shittiness they have to combat.

And doing it to a relatively innocent person... it’s like they didn’t learn anything.
 
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ARghEAT

Custard title
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I don't have much to contribute to this thread other than that I stumbled upon it because some mod got pissy after I tried to ask them about a withheld ban log. I'm gonna go and thank that mod now because, you know. I found this.
 
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Rob from the Kinoplex

Bleh!
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I found this site years ago when they only had the first set of SCPs and enjoyed reading it. There is some really creative writing in some of them with just the right amount of information left out to enhance the experience with a bit of mystery. I didn't look at the community pages because my writing skills aren't good enough to contribute anything of worth.

I was browsing the shitshow formerly known as /x/ and buried among the tupla threads was one bemoaning what had become of the SCP Wiki so I read up on that. It's actually quite sad because the site had a lot of potential, but the Internet is full of cows and I guess SPC Wiki is prime grazing ground for them.

I've just started playing Control on the Xbone as it is on sale at the moment. It's by Remedy Games so the same people who did Max Payne, Alan Wake and Quantum Break. It's very, very heavily inspired by the SPC Wiki but I'm enjoying it so far; it's very atmospheric and well written, the combat isn't anything to write home about but it is fun and it's nice to play a modern shooter which doesn't have a regenerating health mechanic.
 

Mexican_Wizard_711

kiwifarms.net
Reviving this thread so I can post the some cringe-worthy art that I have found within the SCP fandom. Although this thread is the about the wiki itself, I think fandom surrounding the site is awful (minus the sex thing)

First, we have some SCP-049 ships with a self-insert
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Now, we have ourselves an official SCP-682 body pillow
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Lil' Misogynist

Uh oh, looks like someone needs to go in the water
True & Honest Fan
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Now, we have ourselves an official SCP-682 body pillow
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Oh lmao this is mine. (And the art above is by an old friend.) I drew this back in 2017 for someone on Discord who really wanted it. I don’t mind it being here and i hope it makes you all laugh, i feel bad about some of the old jokey nsfw stuff i made knowing now that the community turned out to be full of predators
 

Psyantroos

👁️👁️
True & Honest Fan
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but the Internet is full of cows and I guess SPC Wiki is prime grazing ground for them.

It is, and my theory is that it creates cows too. Most people join it when they are young and impressionable, and there's this weird mix of emotional reasoning combined with bureaucratic process that seems to 'teach' over-sensitivity in SCP culture. Staff will ban/discipline people for saying words they deem offensive (you can't even say "reeeeee" in #site19) and phrase their reasoning for it like some sort of corporate diversity email so that anyone who argues looks like an asshole no matter what they're saying. (Of course, this is all while they pretend admin Bright hasn't been sexually targeting LGBT teenagers for years and pretend that admin Roget didn't have a staff-approved scheme to target someone's mental health via a months-long fake relationship -- very effective ways to fight for inclusivity and acceptance.)

This culture only intensifies the unhealthy behaviors of people who are already struggling with social skills, mental illness, and personal identity to begin with. It's a group that claims to protect its own from the ~scary outside Internet~ and will make a person feel needed and accepted -- until their identity/demographic can no longer be used to benefit the SCP wiki's political image. You are expected to fit a certain political mold there in terms of identity and what you speak about; it is difficult to simply exist as someone from a minority demographic, and this mentality can 'infect' day-to-day life too. But once you're settled, you don't want to leave everything and all the people you've met, so you just go "the only enemies of the SCP wiki are alt-right homophobes!" and bury your head further in the sand alongside all of your friends. Thus, at the end -- in these cases where an inexperienced young person 'grows up' in the community -- the Internet is left with someone who takes it too seriously and personally, all while going off at dissenters ad infinitum instead of focusing on positive or productive things. It's up to us at the end to either realize what happened or stay ignorant.

...Anyway, the main part of the post: There are a few hundred archived copies of the "Join This Site" page, which can all be found here. (On most SCP wiki pages, anyone can view the page history at the bottom, but not on 'administrative' pages like this one.) These were the instances over the years that seemed noteworthy and/or disturbing:

They had a very simple page for several months in 2011, which was first archived on April 23 2011: https://web.archive.org/web/20110423061352/http://www.scp-wiki.net/system:join

It stayed like that until it was edited to ask for "age, gender, and location" (presumably by Bright) as well: https://web.archive.org/web/20111225101051/http://www.scp-wiki.net/system:join

The next change was archived on March 07 2012, with Bright editing in that "If you are denied, you may always reapply. IF you are denied, I strongly encourage you to re-read the required reading to find out WHY, or send a private message to DrBright for reasons": https://web.archive.org/web/20120307154653/http://www.scp-wiki.net:80/system:join

...And then the next archived change was this: https://web.archive.org/web/20120428184819/http://www.scp-wiki.net:80/system:join

Applications are closed for the weekend, as Bright is off getting drunk and teaching BDSM at Penguicon. Any applications submitted during this period will be rejected. :)

Then another update from Bright: https://web.archive.org/web/20120529003233/http://www.scp-wiki.net/system:join

And, saved on July 05 2012: https://web.archive.org/web/20120705011745/http://www.scp-wiki.net:80/system:join

Humorous Note: Don't forget, naked self pictures and monetary donations are always welcome, and may help process your application. (Not Really Yes, Really)

It stayed like that until it was edited to remove the "not really/yes really" thing, because that helps a lot: https://web.archive.org/web/20130116005327/http://www.scp-wiki.net/system:join

The "naked self pictures" line was finally removed sometime around this archive, July 28 2013: https://web.archive.org/web/20130728092600/http://www.scp-wiki.net:80/system:join

An archive from Aug 06 2013 shows that they edited it to tell people not to dox themselves, very thoughtful: https://web.archive.org/web/20130806075806/http://www.scp-wiki.net/system:join

In the form provided, please provide: age, location, and your reasons for joining. Failure to provide all three will result in denial. Be as specific with location as you feel comfortable. (Do not say "Earth" for location, or give another joke answer, or worst of all, tell us your real life street address — we shouldn't know that.)

(Note that two years later, Eskobar doxed himself for an SCP article -- IIRC he was still staff in 2015 as well.)

In an edit archived Sept 27 2013, they finally specified a 15+ age requirement to join the site: https://web.archive.org/web/20130927152401/http://www.scp-wiki.net/system:join They also added "You can use your real name for a username if you really want to" to their instructions. Definitely a great and smart idea to give the teenage userbase.

Oct 05 2013 archive shows that they added a disclaimer about "mature themes": https://web.archive.org/web/20131005071127/http://www.scp-wiki.net:80/system:join

Warning: this wiki, and associated chat, contain themes and discussions of a mature nature. We have a 15 and over age limit. If you are not 15 or older, do not apply.

Archive from Sept 03 2016 shows that they stopped asking for as much personal information (and thus stopped warning people about giving it out, too): https://web.archive.org/web/20160903174334/http://www.scp-wiki.net/system:join

By submitting an application below, you're agreeing that you're 15 years old (or older), and will follow the rules of this site.

Well, that all speaks for itself. Looks like it stayed pretty much the same after that, with archives from 2018 and 2019 showing that they stopped asking for anything other than the site passcode. The webcrawler saved hundreds of snapshots, though, so I could be missing another weird one.

I'd missed it back then, but Bright was vague-whining on Tumblr several weeks ago, right around his 'retirement':
http://archive.md/aPBro (screenshots also attached)

At this point, I feel the need to say something geared mainly toward the SCP community members that lurk this thread. I use 'he' for Bright because Bright is a cisgender, heterosexual man who preys on queer people by claiming to be queer, and this is what he always has done. Back when I was 18/19, I fell for his 'pansexual' thing too, despite the fact that he'd never shown interest in anyone with a penis; if you have a FetLife account, you will see that all the pictures he likes are of cis women or trans people with vaginas. And in the last several months, only after he was called out extensively for being a predator, did he suddenly 'come out' as trans. He is not a non-dysphoric nonbinary person or whatever the hell "gender chaotic" would mean: http://archive.vn/oFa26

The "no one would fake coming out because it always gets people hate" thing does not hold up in a left-leaning community where acceptance is enforced and many authors are openly LGBT+ anyway. The "trans people deserve to be gendered correctly even if they're evil" thing does not hold up against people like Bright because Bright is not a person who happens to be both trans and a predator; Bright is a predator who pretends to be trans in order to target more trans people. Bright's gender stunt is a clear example of SCP staff figuring out how to manipulate inclusively-minded people into supporting them even harder, so that they can then hurt them even worse. So please, even if you choose to play into the they/them thing when you speak about Bright, bear in mind how easy 'unconditional acceptance' has made it for people like Bright to pretend they are trans in order to hurt more queer people. Even a year ago, I would have fallen for it; we all have to think safely, not politely, in cases like this.
 

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John Merston

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I was browsing the shitshow formerly known as /x/ and buried among the tupla threads was one bemoaning what had become of the SCP Wiki so I read up on that. It's actually quite sad because the site had a lot of potential, but the Internet is full of cows and I guess SPC Wiki is prime grazing ground for them.
I dunno, the Shark Punching Center seems pretty chill to me.:lol:
 

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