Secret Gamer Girl / SecretGamerGrrl / Googleshng / "Violet Hargrave" / Jacob Lawrence (Jake) Alley / Violet Cassandra Ocean - Delusional Zoe Quinn Stalker, Libelous Tweeter, Thirsty Gnome, Faux-Tranny Neckbeard Incel, Micropenis, "Known Troubled Person", Creator of "Massive vs the Masses", Self-Described "Noise Making Thing"; Lives in New London, CT

[BScCollateral]

"Side note, this is what PTSD is."

Jake, please. No one's buying your bullshit. If you were truly having a PTSD episode you'd be curled up on your bed, crying yourself to sleep in a fetal position, not posting on fucking Twitter.

Spike Mulligan, writer for The Goon Show, was having deadline issues. He somehow decided everything would be fine if he killed Peter Sellers. He got a knife, Spike's wife called Peter's wife, and Peter didn't answer the door.

Spike had PTSD. Not the kind you get from the Internet, the kind you get from fighting in Sicily. He even wrote a book about it: Mussolini: His Part in My Downfall. It's hilarious, except for the last few pages.

I get very angry when people bleat about their Internet PTSD.

 

[Smaug's Smokey Hole]

I get very angry when people bleat about their Internet PTSD.

Imagine someone almost shitting their pants when there's a knock on the door because they spent the rent money on onlyfans, that's the kind of self-inflicted "PTSD" Jake's got. He's deathly afraid of having to take responsibility for his actions or be reminded of how he fucked things up and in a way that is a disability that keeps him from being functional but it's certainly not PTSD.

 

[kaien]

Spike Mulligan, writer for The Goon Show, was having deadline issues. He somehow decided everything would be fine if he killed Peter Sellers. He got a knife, Spike's wife called Peter's wife, and Peter didn't answer the door.

Spike had PTSD. Not the kind you get from the Internet, the kind you get from fighting in Sicily. He even wrote a book about it: Mussolini: His Part in My Downfall. It's hilarious, except for the last few pages.

There are a couple different versions of the story. In one of them Spike did get through the door, but only by slamming through a pane of plate glass, which put him in the hospital for two weeks. One of the funniest motherfuckers of the 20th century, and it's frankly a miracle he managed to make it to a natural death.

He's deathly afraid of having to take responsibility for his actions or be reminded of how he fucked things up and in a way that is a disability that keeps him from being functional but it's certainly not PTSD.

They talk about "avoidant personality disorder," except that's meant to be characterized by chronic feelings of inadequacy. Jake seems to think of himself as all too adequate.

 

[AnOminous]

He purposely tweets in such a disjointed manner to avoid people quote tweeting him and calling him out on his bullshit

He was just as unintelligible on Talking Time.

 

[An Ghost]

He was just as unintelligible on Talking Time.

He still is. Heres a recent thread he started on binging Sailor moon. Probably half of what he writes are filler words. Paragraphs are 2 run on sentences. He obviously has to bring up anime tiddies. Further in the thread he talks about sentais (not kamen rider tho) which, as a reminder, are shows for children. Jake when writing about something he is passionate about, wants people to relate to, and isnt afraid of nazis popping up in his dms, is still producing vague mishmashes that make your eyes glaze over.

Bonus: he posted this in the misheard song lyrics thread

 

[Kosher Dill]

He still is. Heres a recent thread he started on binging Sailor moon.

I've never watched Sailor Moon, but I find it hard to believe that this is an accurate synopsis.

So, when Uranus and Neptune show up, there's this episode where Moon and Venus are kinda clueless/have never met anyone going with a stone butch aesthetic and get it into their heads that Uranus is this hot new guy in town and fighting over who gets to date her/worrying about whether she's already dating Neptune (and to be clear, she absolutely IS, but they have an open thing where Neptune just kind of accepts that Uranus is gonna go out and bang every freaking girl in the world).

Then a bit after that, like, maybe one episode even, Jupiter just... straight up goes out on a date with them. And everyone else has a little meeting about it, and at first they're shocked because Jupiter has this whole thing about pining after her old boyfriend, and someone straight up says "did her orientation change?" and then it's cleared up that she went out with Uranus and Neptune and everyone's like "oh well I mean yeah, I would too" and basically everyone admits to actually being bi (except Mercury but again she just like, stops being a character after the first season) and they bust out Mars' secret Takarazuka Revue porn stash and my jaw is just on the floor. And then they keep doubling down on this and seriously like the whole third season here is just everyone being super horny for Uranus and oh yeah I guess fighting monsters.

 

[Smaug's Smokey Hole]

I've never watched Sailor Moon, but I find it hard to believe that this is an accurate synopsis.

That sounds like someone watching Desperate Housewives and expertly determines that they're all MILFs fisting each other between episodes but they're tsundere so it is not written into the script. The analysis tells you more about the person than the show.

 

[kaien]

That sounds like someone watching Desperate Housewives and expertly determines that they're all MILFs fisting each other between episodes but they're tsundere so it is not written into the script. The analysis tells you more about the person than the show.

To be very slightly fair to Jake, in the later stages when Kunihiko Ikuhara ran the show it got pretty out there.

That said, it all takes me back to the bad old days of anime nerd shit, when we'd try to ignore all the greasy old neckbeard fucks getting horned up over the lesbian shit in Sailor Moon. Little did we know, I guess, that they were really just stunning and brave transbians experiencing gender euphoria.

 

[Smaug's Smokey Hole]

To be very slightly fair to Jake, in the later stages when Kunihiko Ikuhara ran the show it got pretty out there.

In what way? We all know that fan-girls can't understand male friendship without turning it into a 69 so how is Sailor Moon lesbian, queer or possibly transgender? Honest question.

 

[AnOminous]

In what way? We all know that fan-girls can't understand male friendship without turning it into a 69 so how is Sailor Moon lesbian, queer or possibly transgender? Honest question.

The creator confirmed at least one lesbian couple (Neptune and Uranus).

 

[Smaug's Smokey Hole]

The creator confirmed at least one lesbian couple (Neptune and Uranus).

Is it a "the creator confirmed that Hermione is black" type of confirmation?

 

[Chan the Wizard]

No, they’re actual lesbians in the manga and show.
The author is a woman and very hetero. Married to another famous manga artist.

 

[Neko GF]

Muh, Terves, muh hate speech:

As I've said, I'm presently only glancing at this site once or twice a day, because every time I do, I see something like this.

Granted this is someone I like quoting someone else I like, holding up an example of hate that really is shocking enough to be worth passing around, as we have, today, a fascist using an account advertised as a non-threatening positive pro-women account straight up posting dog-whistle advocacy for sexually assaulting women in general and suggesting a way to rationalize it. Usually they save that for the honestly branded accounts so if I'm not preaching to the choir in this case, definitely click through and see what I'm talking about.

But the thing here is, I really don't think anyone I can reach needs to have it explained that that's a hatemonger trying to drum up violence against women. And honestly,I'm pretty skeptical that anyone encountering the original message there wouldn't recognize it as the gross hate speech that it is, and like every account that posts hatemongering filth like that, literally all that account posts is wall to wall hatemongering filth.

So I ask all of us that pass around this sort of thing with shock and condemnation to really stop and ask ourselves, why are we spreading this around?

The obvious answer of course is "to raise awareness," but, raising awareness isn't a goal in and of itself. If anyone has been living under a rock and isn't aware this website is full of fascists pretending, poorly, to be cookie baking grandmothers while pushing an agenda to force all women into a nazi's idea of utopia where we're either killed or we're willing sex slaves/domestic servants, then yeah, sure, let's fill them in and get more boots on the ground, but if only as a thought exercise, let's say we've already done that. 100% of the population understands that these people are violent fascists and what their agenda is. Now what?

I feel like a lot of people assume that at such a point, the problem solves itself. There are people in charge, somewhere, who just hadn't gotten the memo, and once the memo reaches them, they'll just shut the whole thing down somehow. But, that's not happening. To the degree that they exist, the people in charge are quite aware by now (and I'm not taking that on faith), but they don't intend to do anything about it (and I'm not taking that on faith either).

So there comes a point, and from where I sit we are WAY past it, where the conversation needs to move forward from pointing out the issue towards working out an actual solution. So, let's try some of that here. There's a lot of things the average person could, in theory, do about these sorts of violent fascists that I am not going to discuss both because they are the sort of things one can get into serious legal trouble suggesting and because we're talking about a group of absolutely bloody-minded people, in many cases heavily armed, constantly fantasizing about the killing sprees they'll go on as soon as the social order breaks down enough to do so free of consequences and I'd like those fantasies to stay just such, thanks.

The main area that leaves for us to focus is going through the proper channels such that hatemongering bigots do not have large platforms with which to recruit, and do not have any form of political influence. Good news, fixing the former does a great job of addressing the latter. Bad news, like-minded fascists control most if not all of the platforms they currently have.

I know that one's a hard pill to swallow for some people, but it's true. I tossed out a bunch of sources here covering a chunk of it, but this is the reality we have to deal with. People writing hateful propaganda in newspapers don't answer to anyone but the people putting out those newspapers, and they're paying them for that content because it's what they want to run.

I'm avoiding the use of the commonly agreed upon term for the particular fascist group I am mainly discussing because Twitter has a nasty habit of frequently suspending the accounts of trans women who dare to type it, fails to suspend them over some outright illegal stuff and grants verified status to full-on out and proud hate groups. They're never going to "do the right thing" unless there's enough outside pressure on them in a very specific instance that they crack.

Youtube actively demonitizes anyone whose content seems at all LGBT+ adjacent, Google promotes the hell out of hate group sites in search results, and there are examples we can point to of how those calls are coming from inside the house, as it were.

So, don't count on any of those to fix things with sufficient awareness. They can improve things with specific pressure, but again, that's only going to work on a case by case basis, and the pressure requirements are pretty damn high. Such platforms do tend to fold immediately from any amount of government pressure (see the whole SESTA/FOSTA thing or how Twitter blocks nazi crap if you are logged in from Germany where that's required) but governments telling media hosts what they can and cannot legally post gets into the finer points of free speech issues, which isn't to say it's not workable (hate speech is not protected speech and all) but there's a whole lot of friction to push through and it's a hard fight

This is not, by the way, by any means, me saying you shouldn't bother putting constant pressure on all of the above. Please do.

But also consider other approaches there. Like, hell, start a new newspaper up. Run only factual stuff. Get some properly antifascist TV going. I'd say there's audiences who'd happily have new options there. And there's a general dearth right now of loud angry voices on the left with big platforms which is an imbalance worth fixing if only on principle.

Then we've got the other angle here, political pressure towards passing new hate-based laws. The political friction there generally works in the direction of good. Passing pointless, difficult to enforce laws just to hurt people is a big ol' pain if only in finding the right wording, generally unpopular, and hard to rationalize as a productive use of the time of anyone involved. Fascists have been gaining a lot of ground there lately, but, they're having to put an amount of work in that is only possible from people who have absolutely no life whatsoever, and if anyone were seriously countering their lobbying, they'd have a much easier time. Paying attention to when things are being proposed before councils or written into bills or being voted on is a pain, but, hell just follow Chase Strangio for that, and then just tell whoever's making the decisions that they shouldn't entertain delusional bigots.

Oh and there's another prong worth considering as a thing for all the people very much aware of the problem to focus on: Just straight up take down individual fascists one by one with proper legal challenges over the various laws they seem to violate a hell of a lot more often than anyone realizes.

Personally speaking, I am pretty damn clueless on the relevant laws, especially in the cases where the victim and perpetrator are in different countries but I'd be shocked if none of the very specific horrific lies a few big-name bigots have shared about me in print, video, live interviews, and unrelated courtroom settings don't leave them open to open and shut libel cases. And I've definitely seen people with a better handle on their legal rights make some very good progress on that front over less severe lies.

If someone who did have a decent handle on the relevant laws were to coordinate people like me with serious cases to bring (and the time to bother, which just throwing it out there, I think I've got), lawyers to actually represent them, and people looking to throw money at problems to get fees paid I don't think it'd actually be that difficult to make life come real fast and hard at enough really high profile hatemongers to pretty well shut them up and scare plenty more into watching their mouths so as not to end up in the same boat.

And for real, there are shockingly few of these people to be worried about if you ever stop and take a serious head count.

So, long rambling thread, but yeah, points to consider:
- If you're in a position to put serious pressure on platform holders and I mean in a "you're going to lose ad money/face legal issues" way apply it in regard to the hate they enable.
- If you have any legal representatives with a say in proposed hate, pick up a phone or actual pen and paper yesterday.
- Consider doing your part to make dangerous bigots actually follow the law or face consequences for breaking it.
- Put more effort into pushing other people down these paths than exposing the targets of horrific hate speech directly to that horrific hate speech because that can do more harm than good, especially this late in the game.

Spoiler: Screencaps

https://twitter.com/SecretGamerGrrl/status/1404559322726666241 (Archive)

TL;DR- Jake uses +1,500 words to whine about why people shouldn't showcase "TERF" arguments for any reason.

 

[Tragi-Chan]

Muh, Terves, muh hate speech:

Spoiler: Screencaps

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https://twitter.com/SecretGamerGrrl/status/1404559322726666241 (Archive)

TL;DR- Jake uses +1,500 words to whine about why people shouldn't showcase "TERF" arguments for any reason.

Sounds like he’s trying to get other people to arrange his legal actions. The fool just cannot get his head around the fact that he just doesn’t have a case. Who’s he going to sue? The Internet?

 

[GargoyleGorl]

Muh, Terves, muh hate speech:

Spoiler: Screencaps

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https://twitter.com/SecretGamerGrrl/status/1404559322726666241 (Archive)

TL;DR- Jake uses +1,500 words to whine about why people shouldn't showcase "TERF" arguments for any reason.

Summary:

Once again, Jake is the "ideas man" and expects everyone else to do the work.

Nothing -- literally nothing -- he's suggested is new, revolutionary, or even rare. People from all sides and of all stripes organize things. They get shit done. The lobby for new legislation. They write letters. They form committees. Etc. Etc. Etc.

If I was feeling generous, I'd say Jake wants to nag people into doing work with him coordinating. If I was being realistic, that "coordination" would primarily consist of him sitting on his ass, being an inspiration from afar.

Also, are there a lot of people who we should be deplatforming via broad-based activism, or is there actually just a few of them who are easily targeted through individual actions? Inquiring minds.

Speaking of those individual actions though, what exactly is he proposing that could get him in legal trouble if he spoke it out loud? Hypothetical, we know he wants people dragged into the street and shot on his command. It's interesting that in one breath he acknowledges that this would be a sign of society breaking down into lawlessness, but then in the next breath blames his enemies for taking advantage of this hypothetical lawlessness to fight their own battles. They're evil, you see. They'd take advantage of the situation. Not like good, pure Violet who merely instigated the fucking situation.

Truly bizarre. No wonder he talks in such impenetrable blather -- otherwise, even he would have to see the contradictions in what he's saying.

 

[AirdropShitposts]

Personally speaking, I am pretty damn clueless

You didn't need the rest of that Googleshng, Jake, this was enough.

But since I'm here and his Googleshng sparked a little thought:

I'd be shocked if none of the very specific horrific lies a few big-name bigots have shared about me in print, video, live interviews, and unrelated courtroom settings don't leave them open to open and shut libel cases

I'm going to grant you one thing Jake, that these people have actually not just talked about you [dubious - discuss] but lied about you tons of times in "print", "video", "live interviews" and "courtroom settings" despite your inability to produce any of this, and not only that, I'm going to go further and say that this entire 1488+ page thread is exactly as you claim, nothing but nazi lies. So here's your problem, all of these lies have been about the SecretGamerGrrl Twitter username. Remember, you've never been doxed, nobody has ever connected the handle to an actual person, you've been perfect on concealing revealing personal information. And thus, no one to claim damages and therefore no case of any kind. Open and shut.

Maybe you should consider starting to defend the IP rights of your SecretGamerGrrl/SecretGamerGirl/Violet Hargrave brands if you want to start speculating about legal adventures regarding them. Oops, I legitimately forgot that you don't even actually control the Twitter username for the last one. (Or anything else that would look like an attempt to establish Violet Hargrave as a legitimate pen name.) You've done literally nothing, NOTHING, to stop or reverse this from happening to your prized pen name:


And you think you're ever going to muster the effort to defend your one of your brands in court? Let alone bring down the bigot cabal that's libeled you! It's pathetic. And on top of all this, you're fat.

 

[Water-T]

And on top of all this, you're fat.

and Chelsea will not have sex with you.

 

[Haramburger]

I've never watched Sailor Moon, but I find it hard to believe that this is an accurate synopsis.

I have, and it's crazy how you can tell he's watched it, but rearranged the pieces in his own broken mind into something else entirely. He's like a fujoshit, but with a micropenis nobody will touch

In what way? We all know that fan-girls can't understand male friendship without turning it into a 69 so how is Sailor Moon lesbian, queer or possibly transgender? Honest question.

The show just jumps the shark. The villains and their motivations make very little sense and the tone of the show just goes on too long and too far from the original premise. It has little to do with adding three more planet girls and making them kiss, it's more like how batshit insane the villains get, like with Power Rangers from season to season. The longer it goes on the less sense it makes until it undermines the rest of the show.

 

[Kosher Dill]

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Remember this article about unions in Starfinder?
You can now see the entire thing here:
Crash and Burn
Supposedly he only wrote that intro, but in the book he's credited with the whole section on unions. Whether it's his work or not, it's laughably bad

 

[Smaug's Smokey Hole]

I have, and it's crazy how you can tell he's watched it, but rearranged the pieces in his own broken mind into something else entirely. He's like a fujoshit, but with a micropenis nobody will touch


The show just jumps the shark. The villains and their motivations make very little sense and the tone of the show just goes on too long and too far from the original premise. It has little to do with adding three more planet girls and making them kiss, it's more like how batshit insane the villains get, like with Power Rangers from season to season. The longer it goes on the less sense it makes until it undermines the rest of the show.

Huh. I watched bits and pieces of it in the 90's because it was on at 6:30 while I was eating breakfast and it all seemed like... well, I didn't get the sense that there was a larger plot to it.