Secret Gamer Girl / SecretGamerGrrl / Googleshng / "Violet Hargrave" / Jacob Lawrence (Jake) Alley / Violet Cassandra Ocean - Delusional Zoe Quinn Stalker, Libelous Tweeter, Thirsty Gnome, Faux-Tranny Neckbeard Incel, Micropenis, "Known Troubled Person", Creator of "Massive vs the Masses", Self-Described "Noise Making Thing"; Lives in New London, CT

How will Disembodicon end?

  • Jake forgets about it in a week

    Votes: 60 7.9%
  • Jake spergs about it for weeks, but it's 'too much effort' to do and he cancels it

    Votes: 111 14.6%
  • Someone else does the same thing but competent, Jake rages for years

    Votes: 63 8.3%
  • Jake cancels it due to paranoia

    Votes: 27 3.6%
  • Jake holds it, no one shows up

    Votes: 29 3.8%
  • Jake holds it, only 5 gross troons show up, spend entire time getting googleshng'd at

    Votes: 73 9.6%
  • Jake holds it, bans everyone for being 'secret nazi agents'

    Votes: 32 4.2%
  • Jake uses it as a scam for the next few weeks, then cancels it

    Votes: 65 8.6%
  • Jake holds it and it becomes a great success and makes Chelasy love him (lol)

    Votes: 27 3.6%
  • Jake dies of Coronavirus

    Votes: 271 35.8%

  • Total voters
    758

Wallace

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Trannies are so oppressed that they would never say or post anything inappropriate
But also every fucking time they do say or post something inappropriate it's just gallows humor because they are so oppressed
Remember folks, transgenderism may have a phenomenally high suicide rate, but we can't hope to maintain that level of excellence if everyone doesn't do their part.
 

Smaug's Smokey Hole

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“This is not a direct quote I should note.” Someone needs to explain how libel works to Jake.
It's an odd thing to note for the gnome and it's not the first time he's done it. With his earlier telling it seemed to have been something CHELSAY! was relaying from being said at the twitter meeting - that he was practically a part of even if he was at the wrong coast and not invited.

Is he pointing out that it's not a direct quote because Quinn's a liar that can't be trusted or is he pointing out that it's not a direct quote because Quinn's a liar and during her retelling of what went down she did the familiar Jake-style flim-flam of "they pretty much said..."?
 

AirdropShitposts

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Jakeconomics: NFTs (and some more bitcoin) and then arguing with people who reply:
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GargoyleGorl

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AirdropShitposts

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Back to delusions about how nobody can tell if someone is trans:
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Violet Cassandra Ocean said:
Writing prompt accepted. Transphobia in reality vs. cis people's weird fantasy version of it.

So there's this weirdly popular myth, which people buy into to varying degrees, but at the most brutal end it goes like this:

We've got these people we call trans women, who look like men but you have to call them women, because they have some weird brain thing and going against it is just completely devastating to them.

And some of the more worldly ones will also add on to that that there's people who look like women but you gotta call them "them" or "enby."

Obviously this is all complete BS and I am also being a bit tongue in cheek assuming people this removed from reality just full on do not comprehend that trans men exist or AMAB nonbinary people etc. etc. the 101 class is still over here if anyone is new:

Meanwhile, over in reality, an important thing to understand is that as a general rule of thumb, if someone is trans, you will not know that that person is trans unless that person has actively decided to let you know.

Once someone really decides they're going to do the whole transition thing, there's a bit of an ugly duckling window of a few months, maybe a couple years, when we'll generally either just never leave our homes or only do so in the bulkiest of hoodies or whatever but at some point the mix of HRT if any, surgical things if any, wardrobe and makeup changes if any, and DEFINITELY the cumulative effect of just living as who we are openly for long enough to normalize it and affect body language and other subtle stuff comes to a point where every trans woman just looks like any other woman every trans man looks like any random guy, and you're not going to hestitate or need a moment to think when addressing us. Nonbinary people meanwhile you probably will hesitate on with just a vague sense that this person seems pretty cool and confident and hope someone else uses a pronoun to clue you in. Now prior to transitioning things get dicey. Like when I was around 6 people constantly correctly referred to me as a cute little girl and I or my parents had to "correct" them and I had to build up this kinda ridiculous in retrospect "manly" camouflage in my teens to avoid that awkwardness but like, nobody's ever gonna be upset at you for misgendering a trans person who isn't out as trans yet so you're just either playing along with the ruse or you're accidentally being right and making some stranger feel good for reasons they maybe can't process yet. But ANYWAY, like I said, generally speaking, if you are aware that someone is trans, it is because that person has actively decided to let it be known to you that they are trans (or someone outed them, don't do that people).

Like, for instance, literally not one single person in the world would be aware that I'm trans if I didn't go and start at least one sentence a day all "speaking as a trans woman..." and ramble about how very good that Kamen Rider Revice color scheme is and ramble on with threads like this.

Because I do all that, I have to deal with transphobes constantly.

And by that I mean there is this big pile of obsessive violent crackpots who go out term-searching for all those things I say that make it clear I'm trans and look for this very good color scheme🏳️‍⚧️and other things they've decided are signifiers (like how I stick that "she/her" in my bio because modern societal convention dictates we all do stuff like that because it's not like people can look at what I'm typing and see all the obvious feminine signifiers they would in a face to face conversation that make these things obvious). And oh hey, speaking of signifiers, ironically enough with how much they pretend otherwise, transphobes are all about using clearly declared pronouns as a signifier! They make a big performance out of how that basic convention I just mentioned (which really has nothing to do with being trans) is a sign of being "the enemy," shouting "Pronouns in bio!" like they spotted a skull and crossbones on the flag of a passing ship, and then they have this whole song and dance where they work out someone's gender the same way anyone else would (looking at said bio on the internet, or at someone's name, or "hmm, this person is probably a woman because I'm seeing big ol' boobs, dangly hoop earrings, a skirt, and the tired worn-down expression of someone dealing with BS all day") and make a big performance out of using the wrong pronouns.

So you get someone pointing at what is clearly a woman going "Look at HIM! HE's just standing here! What a filthy MAN!" etc. And again this isn't even something they just do with trans people, it's anyone they consider an enemy.

Because, and this is the whole point here, it does no actual harm to, say, a trans woman, to refer to her as "him." It's not like we're vampires and you're holding up the cross or something. It's just a signifier. The bigot doing this is making it VERY clear to everyone in earshot that they are a bigot, and the person they are shouting at is one of the people they hate. It's the same operating principle as shouting a slur at someone. You're verbally drawing a clear line in the sand, and seeing who within earshot starts drifting towards which side of it. Are you the only bigot here surrounded by a bunch of people who have your targets back? Do you have a lot of silent backup who are going to start slipping you smiles to let you know you can take things further? Is the owner of whatever space this confrontation you're in actively turning a blind eye to your outburst, so you know you aren't at risk of being thrown out?

So, if you see people pointing out that sort of obvious misgendering, it's not about hurt feelings or anything, it's "hey, did everyone hear the obvious dog whistle from the violent bigot? Because we should be preparing for something to go down now after that open display of aggression."

But the actual real problems of dealing with transphobes are the things that follow that testing of the waters, or take place less publicly or less directly. Actual physical violence. Smear campaigns. Propaganda claiming all trans people are "mentally ill" which in turn come with nazi dog whistles implying the proper treatment for that is to kill us all or imprison us or lobotomize us or whatever. More propaganda portraying us as actual supernatural monsters. All this stuff:

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Tragi-Chan

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So hold on one second. On the one hand, trans women have a period of up to a couple of years where they have to hide away while the magic transformation potion takes effect (I guess this means all trans women are unemployed). But prior to transition, they’re all so feminine that people keep mistaking them for biological women. Which is it, you bearded fool?

I guess he’s about to post more of his trap porn to prove that trans women are no difffapfapfapfapfap
 

An Ghost

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Jakeconomics: NFTs (and some more bitcoin) and then arguing with people who reply:
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This would be an amazing troll. Baits replies with brain dead takes, argues with them when they make a good point, puts words in their mouths when HE was the one that said that NFTs are like buying property without banks (when the poster meant real estate companies), and then links that to a different figure of speech to reinforce his point. I could believe he was trolling if he didn't block anybody who replied to him, so they could at least squirm when they see how he mangled their words.
But Jake isn't clever enough to realize what he's doing. He gets some twitter pats, endorphins spike, and his monkey brain wants some more.
 

AnOminous

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But Jake isn't clever enough to realize what he's doing. He gets some twitter pats, endorphins spike, and his monkey brain wants some more.
Tbh I think NFTs are kind of retarded too but Jake doesn't even seem to understand what they are. Of course, this is in keeping of never being even remotely right about anything and pompously pronouncing on shit he knows jack about.
 

AirdropShitposts

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"I don't know if anyone was actually following me for this, but"
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Violet Cassandra Ocean said:
I don't know if anyone was actually following me for this, but it's been a while since I've talked at all about the whole mess we'll call "the Wi Spa thing" and people who HAVE been talking it for the past... entire time it's been a thing have been continuing to do so via asses. So here's a vague overview where I'm going to be intentionally fuzzy about a lot of details because from where I sit, that's the only remotely ethical way to bring people up to speed on this.

So on July 3rd, a raving far right weirdo walked into a spa in LA and recorded a video wherein she screamed a whole bunch of completely unhinged gibberish which, if I properly recall, mainly consisted of a bunch of ranting about people burning in hell, a man exposing his genitalia to little girls in a hottub and/or changing room, and a lot of thrusting her camera in the direction of where these things were apparently happening in order to record... a complete absence of anything remotely resembling any of what she described. Additionally police showed up, interviewed people, and nobody on the scene saw anything related to any of this. The video however VERY quickly found its way into transphobic circles online, mainly based in the UK (as they tend to be) and the legend was quickly amended that this was a trans woman, not a man as was clearly stated in the video, although to my knowledge the recorder of said video, which again, did not contain anyone at all, did not at any point actually amend that description. It was just sort of taken as read that if people are shouting about "a man" in a video linked all over mumsnet, you're supposed to decode that into "a trans woman" on your own It was at around this point in the narrative incidentally where the staff of the spa noted that A- it's not a walk-in sort of place, everyone present within is there by appointment, B- they have multiple regular clients who are trans and this is not a problem, and C- none were actually present when this random woman shouting gibberish was filming random walls and people who were just checking in or out that had nothing to do with what she was saying.

Most reasonable people looking at the facts of this came pretty swiftly to the conclusion that the video, in addition to being a hoax, was a premeditated stunt specifically designed to stir up anger towards a queer-inclusive place of business.

Meanwhile, quite a large number of completely unreasonable nazis immediately descended on the location of said business to generally riot, threaten the lives of queer people, stab multiple people, and once again demonstrate to all of us exactly where the police stand when nazis gather in public to do violence like that.

Meanwhile, the more prose-happy sorts of fascist, both via social media and the odd news article/editorial set about doing their very best to get propaganda out there with three basic goals in mind:
1- Convince people that the raving weirdo's video that clearly shows nothing but a desk and confused people shows a nude trans woman in a hot tub with a bunch of children
2- Convince people that any of several dozen individual trans women a given bigot wanted the armed nazi mob at the spa to try to hunt down and murder is the plainly non-existent woman in question.
3- Convince people that a trans woman visiting a trans-inclusive spa where clients regularly undress would somehow constitute some manner of crime rather than being a perfectly ordinary day of business for that establishment.

Random side note, but it should be obvious that everyone participating in this knows full well how full of it they are as even without personally watching the video, which last I checked is still freely available, it should be common sense that if this woman had actually burst into a room full of undressed children as is the claim, filming them without consent, and uploading it to the internet, she would have been arrested on the spot, and that video would not be available anywhere, much less on the fascist hangouts which claim to be parenting forums.

That was basically where this all sat up until September 2nd when a newspaper with a questionable reputation allowed one Andy Ngo to write something in relation to this. For, again, very serious ethical reasons, I am not going to link to that, or mention who published it, but I will link this article with a brief explanation of who Andy Ngo is. rollingstone.com/culture/cultur… Short version, he's a dangerous fascist, who's pretty pro getting-people-killed-by-other-fascists, and pretty anti being-at-all-credible-in-discussion-of-literally-anything, so, not someone anyone should be giving column issues to about this, or anything else.

His article, which I'm scanning through now, doesn't add any actual new information, but does have a giant pile of random hideous accusations half-truths and dead-naming of some totally random trans woman with the vague implication that she is, again, this woman who kinda provably never actually existed.

And other news sites have been "updating their coverage" with this "new information." Particularly ones that are constantly looking for new angles for writing transphobic hit pieces.

Meanwhile, actual journalists who recognize the name and understand that Andy Ngo is not a reliable source of information have been actually looking into his claims about this random woman and hey, she HAS been charged with "indecent exposure..." 20 years ago. As a reduction of charges from prostitution. Basically made from Walking While Trans arrests.

So... yeah, it appears we just have a far-right scumbag here picking a random trans woman out of a hat to invasively stalk and misrepresent the hell out who there seems to be no actual reasonable reason to suspect has any connection to this incident we have already been given fairly conclusive proof is completely fictitious. There might be something I'm missing here, but as NO ONE reporting on this has said anything about the initial investigation into the apparently non-existent "Wi Spa incident" being reopened in light of new anything, there is no valid claim anyone can make that they're looking into anything relating to this random woman in connection with that, and witch hunts are not a cool thing to get involved in, so I'm not looking in any further.

But somehow, there's more! As you may recall, around the 9th or so the Guardian (via their U.S. based offices) briefly published an interview with Judith Butler (which was fortunately archived- web.archive.org/web/2021090713…), then very quickly excised 3 paragraphs wherein she had some very important things to say about fascism. Then pulled the entire interview. Then deleted the entire landing page for a whole series of trans positive articles the interview was supposed to spearhead over the month (the rest of which have been quietly killed, last I heard with no kill fees for their authors).

When questioned on this by literally everyone paying attention because seriously WTF rather than what I have to assume is the actual answer (transphobic fascists run the Guardian in the UK and this is really well-documented and the source of tons of scandals), they tried to pin it on "new developments with the Wi Spa story" which really doesn't have a damn thing to do with Judith Butler, the interview, or, again, reality, because there haven't been any and the story is and was "some right-wing crank staged a bit to give nazis an excuse to pull some crap."

So now you're up to speed. And again, I'd link more sources, but I'd be putting a random innocent person at exposure to more harm if I linked... BASICALLY ANYTHING on this, because people don't know not to use Andy Ngo as a source.
 

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The Guardian, which is notorious here in the UK for being liberal and leftie to the point of absurdity, is run by transphobic fascists. Because they cut a bit out of an article about trans women.

I’m kind of surprised Jake and friends other people who haven’t blocked him aren’t exhausted. Anyone that does anything that might even vaguely be construed as not totally 100% pro the most absurd extremes of the trans trend is a fascist. So is anyone that associates with them, anyone that coexists with them and anyone in the same approximate location. Isn’t it tiring to have to tread on eggshells lest ye run into the approximately 90% of society you’ve decided are literally Nazis? Or worse, that you get unpersonned yourself for liking a tweet by someone who liked a tweet by J K Rowling in 2011?

Perhaps the most bizarre thing is that here we have a man who on the one hand enthusiastically condones these witch hunts, and on the other wails about how people abandon him based on nothing more than hearsay.
 
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Diana Moon Glampers

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Jake is Baghdad Bobbing about how trans women are always the innocent victims and those evil mean cissies are always stalking and harassing and assaulting them and their feminine penises.

His diatribe is full of so many factual inaccuracies that it's insane. "Gee, why would anyone think this was a trans woman, why is that where your mind goes when someone hears there's a man in the women's room?" Uh, maybe the police report about this suspect doing the "I identify as a woman, now look at my dick" schtick repeatedly, or the spa staff and the random soyboy in the video both insisting the individual was a trans woman, might have clued them in?

Most of what Jake does in these Baghdad Bob moments is to pretend he's giving a play-by-play of a video for people who will never watch the actual video and will believe it when he tells them black is white and up is down. I wonder how long it took him to come up with the idea that the screaming woman was just screaming about a man, not a trans woman. Also, if this guy was just a man and not at all a trans woman, what in the world would be wrong with the woman in the video getting pissed off about his presence? Somehow he believes that simultaneously, the black woman filming is a stupid Karen for interfering with a stunningbrave, and that there was never a transwoman in the room in the first place.
 

GargoyleGorl

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Jake is Baghdad Bobbing about how trans women are always the innocent victims and those evil mean cissies are always stalking and harassing and assaulting them and their feminine penises.

His diatribe is full of so many factual inaccuracies that it's insane. "Gee, why would anyone think this was a trans woman, why is that where your mind goes when someone hears there's a man in the women's room?" Uh, maybe the police report about this suspect doing the "I identify as a woman, now look at my dick" schtick repeatedly, or the spa staff and the random soyboy in the video both insisting the individual was a trans woman, might have clued them in?

Most of what Jake does in these Baghdad Bob moments is to pretend he's giving a play-by-play of a video for people who will never watch the actual video and will believe it when he tells them black is white and up is down. I wonder how long it took him to come up with the idea that the screaming woman was just screaming about a man, not a trans woman. Also, if this guy was just a man and not at all a trans woman, what in the world would be wrong with the woman in the video getting pissed off about his presence? Somehow he believes that simultaneously, the black woman filming is a stupid Karen for interfering with a stunningbrave, and that there was never a transwoman in the room in the first place.
I mean, he's his own worst enemy when it comes to this sort of thing. Anyone who's seen that other video of the trans activist sucker punching that old lady and Jake's revision of how the old lady was actually the one attacking/throwing around/"really working the kidneys" the much taller and more fit innocent victim who DEFINITELY DIDN'T RUN UP AND SUCKER PUNCH HER knows better than to take his word about anything.

Even the trans' subsequent trial and conviction doesn't make a dent in Jake's manufactured reality. Jake's far past usual trans nuttiness and well into serious delusionville.
 

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