Self Defense tips general -

[Pinecandle]

Jiu-jitsu/ Muay Thai fag here. anyone got tips for self defense and actually bringing what you learned in the gym out to the real world?

ITT:
discuss tips for self defense
defense against weapons
defense against group attacks


thanks for derailing my thread you faggots

 

[HeyYou]

Buy a gun

 

[Pocket Dragoon]

Buy a gun

Carry that gun.

Everywhere.

Even in the bathtub.

 

[DumbDude42]

if 1v1: aim for the head, punch hard, punch fast, and most importantly, punch first. don't let up until the other guy is 100% out.

if outnumbered: run

 

[Salubrious]

Most people don't fight fair: they'll either sneak attack you or outnumber you. They'll also use a knife or a gun the moment they think they're losing; maybe even at the start. Don't think life is like some martial arts movie.

 

[Pinecandle]

Buy a gun

not 21.
"Most people don't fight fair: they'll either sneak attack you or outnumber you. They'll also use a knife or a gun the moment they think they're losing; maybe even at the start. Don't think life is like some martial arts movie."
true that @Salubrious

 

[HeyYou]

not 21.
"Most people don't fight fair: they'll either sneak attack you or outnumber you. They'll also use a knife or a gun the moment they think they're losing; maybe even at the start. Don't think life is like some martial arts movie."
true that @Salubrious

What commie state do you live in that you can't buy a long gun at 18?

 

[Pinecandle]

What commie state do you live in that you can't buy a long gun at 18?

the original quote was obviously referencing a handgun. i can buy a long gun, but do you really think i'll fucking carry that shit around the streets of chicago, into a macy's? really? long rifles are great for home defense, but the topic is for street defense

@SIGSEGV thanks for the reaction you fat fuck

 

[Meat Target]

I don't know much about martial arts, but I do know that the weak spots for punching or kicking are the eyes, throat, and sweets.

Also, IIRC, punch "through" whatever you're striking, don't let up on impact.

 

[Lemmingwise]

For instances where guns don't suffice, read this shit.

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Though if you're a lazy fuck, @Salubrious practically gave a summary:

Most people don't fight fair: they'll either sneak attack you or outnumber you. They'll also use a knife or a gun the moment they think they're losing; maybe even at the start. Don't think life is like some martial arts movie.

As for self-defense: Any type of fitness / exercise will help, even if it's something like baseball. If you're body is shit, skills don't matter much.
If you've got a good body and decent skills, then a good mindset becomes important and though it's hard to train, you have to learn to break the surprise of when violence starts while you're waiting for a bus or whatever. Most people freeze, some run, some fight. You have to break your instinct and learn to choose how to act. Keep in mind that nobody is an expert as even battle-hardened vets are unlikely to have had more than 3 life threatening experiences in civilian situations. Can anyone that encountered something only 3x be called an expert? So, no this isn't expert advise either.

If you're goint to depend on a weapon, you better always have it with you and practise drawing it quickly. Yes someone might stab you in the back, but there is no point worrying about attacks you can't defend. Someone that punches you in the back of the head can at least be fought back against.

 

[SIGSEGV]

@SIGSEGV thanks for the reaction you fat fuck

lol

 

[The Shadow]

Welcome to The Shadow's primer on public pugilism.

If you're involved in Muay Thai and BJJ you're off to a good start. Both are excellent , mostly practical arts. Depending on your BJJ school and whether they focus on just the ground game or other aspects, you may wish to look into Judo or Japanese Jujutsu/Aikido/Chin Na/whatever for some throws and joint locks. Just keep in mind that Aikido and many Chinese MA schools go heavy on the woo-woo stuff.

Most of the time, you're better off trying to escape than to fight it out. If you must- use any advantage you can. Fair fights are for boxing rings.

Whether you're striking with fists or flat hands, keep your fingers together. A stray finger can be wrenched in a lot of painful directions. Do not under any circumstances do the MovieBob punch where you tuck your thumb inside your closed fingers. Unless you actually are MovieBob, in which case go ahead and break those thumbs.

If you get angry, your opponent has the upper hand. You want to stay as clear-headed as humanly possible through any fight. By the same token, if you can get your opponent angry they will be stupider by a good degree. Not that you necessarily should do this, but anger is the enemy of clear thought.

Contrary to what many BJJ promoters will tell you, it's not a great idea to take a fight to the ground in the wild, especially if you have multiple opponents. You go to the ground with one guy and his buddy starts kicking your teeth in, you're done. To say nothing of what the condition of the ground will be- pebbles, broken glass, all kinds of things can give you pain on the ground.

To amend the physical fitness thing- endurance is important in a fight. Running is a good way to get this up, and either working the bags at your gym or shadow boxing vigorously can help, too.

In hand to hand combat, a melee weapon massively changes the dynamic of the fight. Someone pulls a knife it immediately makes clinching and striking that much more dangerous for their opponent. I am not saying carry such a weapon, because that can be legally construed in some unfortunate ways even in clear cut cases of self defense and is often subject to different carry laws than firearms in different jurisdictions. If you do decide to carry one, do the legal research first. And a pocket knife without a locking or fixed blade is as much a danger to its wielder as to the opponent.

A group melee is significantly more dangerous. In a one on one fight it's best to never take your eyes off your opponent- with multiple attackers you've got that much more to worry about. But using your environment well can help you here in some cases. If there's anything you can do to make it more difficult for them to get to you- kick a trash can over, knock a table or chair into their path- you can at least try to manage your opponents better.

Also, I wouldn't be The Shadow if I didn't recommend cackling maniacally while taking your opponent down. Total power move.

 

[DumbDude42]

Yes someone might stab you in the back, but there is no point worrying about attacks you can't defend

well you could wear protection under your regular clothes if you're really paranoid. stab vest against getting knifed, kevlar if you're worried about getting shot. it's effective, but annoying and inconvenient.

 

[obliviousbeard]

Hit first to where it hurts, hit hard, bail the fuck away. Fair fight will only get your ass whooped in the long run.

 

[SIGSEGV]

Hit first to where it hurts

Their reaction score?

 

[obliviousbeard]

Their reaction score?

 

[Pinecandle]

you kikoids can laugh all you want but atleast i have a life outside of this forum. can't say the same about you "true and honest fan" types. suck a big black dick you fucking brainlet

 

[muh_moobs]

1) Move out of Chicago
2) Buy a pistol
3) Avoid niggers as much as possible.

 

[Lemmingwise]

If you get angry, your opponent has the upper hand. You want to stay as clear-headed as humanly possible through any fight. By the same token, if you can get your opponent angry they will be stupider by a good degree.

This is dumb shit. No point doing stuff to make someone angry; it only prolongs conflict. This was thought up by someone who thinks that random fights are fights to the death. This kind of thinking makes sense in a ring where only one man leaves standing (or winning on points), not a fight in the wild.

Even after fights start, many can still be de-escalated, depending on circumstance. Don't create motivation for revenge, unless necessary for self-defense.

 

[Idiotron]

Something that rarely gets brought up when it comes to self defense:
Open palm strikes.
Never use fists in a street fight, you're not warmed up and you'll hurt your wrists.
I personally know people who technically won street fights but the next day, they had to go to the hospital because they broke their wrists while punching the other person.