Law Senators overtly threaten SCOTUS over gun control case - That's a nice court you got there, shame if something happened to it.

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Jesus Christ, some of these Senators. (Archive)

Several high-profile Senate Democrats warned the Supreme Court in pointed terms this week that it could face a fundamental restructuring if justices do not take steps to "heal" the court in the near future.

The ominous and unusual warning was delivered as part of a brief filed Monday in a case related to a New York City gun law. Sens. Sheldon Whitehouse, D-R.I., Richard Blumenthal, D-Conn., Mazie Hirono, D-Hawaii, Richard Durbin, D-Ill., and Kirsten Gillibrand, D-N.Y., referenced rulings by the court's conservative majority in claiming it is suffering from some sort of affliction that must be remedied.

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"The Supreme Court is not well. And the people know it," the brief said. "Perhaps the Court can heal itself before the public demands it be 'restructured in order to reduce the influence of politics.'"
The last part was quoting language from a Quinnipiac University poll, in which 51 percent favored such restructuring. In the same poll, 55 percent believed the Supreme Court was "motivated by politics" more than by the law.
Dramatic changes to the Supreme Court have been proposed by several Democrats vying for their party's 2020 presidential nomination, with "court-packing" being a common — though highly controversial — suggestion. Increasing the number of justices on the court would allow the president to shift the balance on the bench by loading up justices of his or her preference.


Democratic candidates including former Rep. Beto O’Rourke of Texas, and Sens. Cory Booker of New Jersey, Elizabeth Warren of Massachusetts, Kamala Harris of California, and Gillibrand, all have signaled an openness to expanding the number of judges on the court should they reach the White House.

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South Bend, Ind., Mayor Pete Buttigieg has also supported expanding the court, proposing a plan to have some justices appointed by the president and others selected by the other justices in order to "depoliticize" the court. He's admitted that the only way he can think of to make this work would be to increase the size of the court from nine justices to 15, while stressing that simply "adding more justices onto the court who agree with you" would be a bad idea.
Yet other candidates such as former Vice President Joe Biden has come out against court-packing, as has Bernie Sanders, though the Vermont senator has suggested rotating judges to other courts.

Liberal Justice Ruth Bader Ginsburg has also spoken out against court-packing, telling NPR in July, "Nine seems to be a good number."
The Democratic senators' brief was filed in the case of New York State Rifle & Pistol Association, Inc. v. City of New York, which dealt with legal limitations on where gun owners could transport their licensed, locked, and unloaded firearms. They are urging the court to stay out of the case brought by the NRA-backed group, claiming that because the city recently changed the law to ease restrictions, the push to the Supreme Court is part of an "industrial-strength influence campaign" to get the conservative majority to rule in favor of gun owners.
If the court still decides to hear the case, a ruling against New York City could prevent other cities and states from passing similar gun control laws.
Conservatives currently outnumber liberals on the Supreme Court 5-4, but the past year featured a multitude of cases where conservatives — including President Trump's picks Neil Gorsuch and Brett Kavanaugh — sided with the liberal bloc.
I'm surprised less at the quality of the threat and more because this was part of an official filing. Seriously? You dumb fuckers put a threat into a filing with SCOTUS?

The scuttlebutt is that this is specifically directed at Chief Justice John Roberts, because he's been so wobbly on conservative causes over the years (including his dreadful ACA ruling). But why make the threat public?

Fuckin' weirdos. And I thought gay ops were just limited to channers and farmers.
 

Some Manajerk

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Now, is the 9 members of the supreme court constitutionally mandated? Meaning, would it take a 2/3 majority to add more seats? If so, LOL, never gonna happen.

And for god sakes, the judiciary is a different branch of government. They're supposed to frustrate the executive and legislative branches.
FDR tried to do that once. didn't end well for him
 

Liber Pater

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FDR tried to do that once. didn't end well for him
The plan became a key talking point to foment a fierce political backlash against the F.D.R. and the liberal wing of the Democratic Party. One constituent sent a senator a bullet wrapped in a paper that warned, “If you support Roosevelt’s court bill, we will get you — you dirty rubber stamp.”
The court battle was a huge reversal of fortune for Roosevelt. Starting with the 1938 midterm elections...
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LOL. I'd like to think that there might be similar backlash if court-packing legislation was proposed today. But alas, it's a different country now.
 
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They're doing it in public because thier base eats that shit up and any even pretense of decorum or mutual respect between public figures in The Beltway has been gone for at least a decade now.

Still, you'd think that they wouldn't try the same gambit pretty much everyone, including his supporters, lambast FDR for.
 

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This is why I mentioned in another thread why there should be a constitutional amendment saying there will only be 9 justices to the Supreme Court. Apparently conservatives aren't keen enough to push for this just in case.
 

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South Bend, Ind., Mayor Pete Buttigieg has also supported expanding the court, proposing a plan to have some justices appointed by the president and others selected by the other justices in order to "depoliticize" the court.
Is the AIDS in South Bend a strain that causes brain damage? Justices appointing other justices? Definitely no nepotism will be involved then, NO SIREE!
 

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They're doing it in public because thier base eats that shit up and any even pretense of decorum or mutual respect between public figures in The Beltway has been gone for at least a decade now.
Well, from the Democrats. The Republicans played the "lose with grace and dignity" game for a long time, and it got them nothing.

That's what all the screeching is about. "You're not supposed to fire back when I attack you REEEEEEEEE!"
 

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Now, is the 9 members of the supreme court constitutionally mandated? Meaning, would it take a 2/3 majority to add more seats? If so, LOL, never gonna happen.

And for god sakes, the judiciary is a different branch of government. They're supposed to frustrate the executive and legislative branches.
There is no constitutional mandate on the size of the court. In theory there could just be one justice. For the first few decades of the Republic there were 7. The last president to make a serious effort to fuck with the size of the court was FDR and it kicked off a shitstorm and one of the worst political defeats of his career. Not even a 4 term president with a super majority in congress could do it. The threats these cunts wrote arent worth the paper they are printed on.
 

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A lot of people joke about Civil War 2.0 but I firmly believe if the DNC continues to attempt to circumvent our government through the tactics they've been engaging in over the last almost three years and it results in some sweeping changes that further infringe, notice I say further because the government is already in violation of the Second Amendment and some state and local governments are violating the Fourth Amendment and Fifth Amendments as well with Red Flag Laws, the stage will be set for an inciting incident to cause people to lash out at the government which could snowball into outright civil insurrection on a large scale.

They are baiting the population of this country to remove their tyranny.
 

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A lot of people joke about Civil War 2.0 but I firmly believe if the DNC continues to attempt to circumvent our government through the tactics they've been engaging in over the last almost three years and it results in some sweeping changes that further infringe, notice I say further because the government is already in violation of the Second Amendment and some state and local governments are violating the Fourth Amendment and Fifth Amendments as well with Red Flag Laws, the stage will be set for an inciting incident to cause people to lash out at the government which could snowball into outright civil insurrection on a large scale.

They are baiting the population of this country to remove their tyranny.
Not so much baiting. Gambling.

They're betting the rent money and more on people being unwilling to push back, while deliberately ignoring that they've gotten a couple pushbacks already (the most recent being our current President).

But this time, this time, the cards are gonna come up aces for them and the roulette wheel will land on their number. Gotta be!
 

SmileyTimeDayCare

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Um, can't you generally be held in contempt of court or otherwise legally sanctioned if you literally tell the judge(s) in your case "rule my way or else..."?
They'll probably hide behind The Speech and Debate Clause which shields these ratfucks from the consequences of the shit they say. Nadler and Schiff would be toast without that protection.

I can't help but feeling that their abuse of that protection will cause it to be removed which will end up fucking us further down the line because that is what the DNC does now apparently--abuse things until they break then cry later when they need them.
 
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