Sense8 cancelled. The salt begins. - LGBT oriented show shot down by Netflix

[The Lizard Queen]

http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/live-feed/sense8-canceled-at-netflix-1009404


Sense8. Good first season, bad second season. Netflix noticed and decided to not give it a 3rd season.

Naturally it's because of hate, white people, and transmysogyny, and not because it cost 9 million dollars an episode (Game of Thrones episodes usually cost 6mil), and had low viewership.

https://mobile.twitter.com/sense8/status/870343422518886400

 

[TiggerNits]

I remember that show, the first few episodes were neat, then it got up it's own ass in a bad way and got real boring

 

[Mariposa Electrique]

http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/live-feed/sense8-canceled-at-netflix-1009404


Sense8. Good first season, bad second season. Netflix noticed and decided to not give it a 3rd season.

Naturally it's because of hate, white people, and transmysogyny, and not because it cost 9 million dollars an episode (Game of Thrones episodes usually cost 6mil), and had low viewership.

https://mobile.twitter.com/sense8/status/870343422518886400

Most shows with LGBTQIAXYZ123 leads are getting axed.
People are tired of these narcissist saying, "look at muh sex life and how much better it is than yours".

 

[Jan_Hus]

How the fuck do you spend 9mil an episode? With GoT you can easily justify the 6mil budget(thought this would be higher)

 

[RADICALGOBLIN]

I only remember it for having a song from The Antlers.

regardless if you only care about a show's run because "muh privileges" you need mental help, tf

 

[Lorento]

How the fuck do you spend 9mil an episode? With GoT you can easily justify the 6mil budget(thought this would be higher)

2 million goes to the episode, the rest is spent on sex toys and cocaine.

 

[Jan_Hus]

2 million goes to the episode, the rest is spent on sex toys and cocaine.

And milky skinned Laotian man whores...

 

[Lorento]

And milky skinned Laotian man whores...

That's only on Fridays. Too much of a good thing and all that.

 

[Chris did nothing wrong]

How the fuck do you spend 9mil an episode?

It's a Tommy Wiseau production.

 

[TDILindsay]

A lot of the bitching is about 13 Reasons Why getting a renew and this not getting one now.

 

[NumberingYourState]

Every tear, every tear is a waterfall

every tear, every tear, every tear is a waterfall (waterfall)

 

[Munchingonfish]

A Troubling Trend in Cancellations: Are Inclusive Shows in Danger?

“Rosewood,” “The Get Down,” “Sense8,” “Pitch,” “East Los High,” “Sweet/Vicious,” “Underground,” “American Crime.”

These are all shows that were canceled recently. Notice a pattern?

They all had non-white and/or non-male leads or ensemble casts. Often the main creative voices behind the scenes were not necessarily what most showrunners are — white men. The programs listed above were all very different from each other in tone and execution, but they were the kind of programs that, from an inclusion standpoint, Hollywood leaders have repeatedly said they want to make.

The industry did make those shows, and now they’re all gone.

I haven’t crunched the numbers on this, and let me be clear, I am a fan of crunching the numbers when it comes to matters of inclusion and diversity (or the lack of it that is still the hallmark of too many segments of the TV industry). Variety writes stories like this all the time — including this year and last year and lots of other times — and we’ll continue to monitor and digest the numbers that come out from various guilds and from our own data-gathering efforts.

So, given my penchant for numbers, charts and data when it comes to these issues, I am fully aware that one anecdotal list does not prove anything definitively. Lots of shows get canceled every year, especially in spring and early summer, when the networks are clearing the decks for their next few rounds of acquisitions. If someone wanted to make a counter-argument, they most certainly could do so by mentioning that “Last Man Standing” and “The Odd Couple,” two shows with white male leads, were also canceled in recent weeks. WGN America didn’t just cancel “Underground,” it also canceled the predominantly white “Outsiders.”

But there’s still reason to be worried.

Having written about these issues for a very long time, here are a couple of truths I learned the hard way: Hollywood is way too quick to pat itself on the back for the smallest and most overdue steps forward when it comes to diversity, inclusion and representation — and the industry is far, far too quick to let the backsliding begin. And when that backsliding does begin (as it has many times in the past), many who mouth easy platitudes — instead of doing the real work of increasing the diversity of the industry — very easily and even reflexively turn a blind eye to the return to the status quo. (If that status quo was ever even seriously challenged — and at too many networks and studios, it is not. Still.)

Many of us who observe the TV scene have noted that its recent expansions — which have gotten us within shouting distance of 500 scripted shows per year — have led to the existence of many more TV shows created by non-white, female and LGBTQ writer/producers. This is one of the best things about the last few years — the explosion and expansion of points of view, protagonists, subjects and styles. Seeing shows led, in front of and behind the cameras, by men and women who reflect the world we live in was both a relief and a beginning — it was not the end of institutional sexism and racism, but the start of an era that had tentatively begun to right of decades of bias, blindness, arrogance and neglect.

But there was always an undercurrent of worry when many of us celebrated the TV industry’s (very incomplete) progress, as it started the process of truly expanding its worldviews and creative rosters. That progress is non-existent or weak in some quarters, and inconsistent in others, for starters. Beyond that, for some time, many of us have been worried that, if Peak TV were ever to begin contracting, that the shows created by non-white, female and LGBTQ creators — especially the newer entrants into the mix — would be the first ones shown the door.

Two years ago, NPR’s Linda Holmes began to sound that alarm, and since then, it’s been picked up by many other critics, fans and TV writers. As Holmes put it then, “If there is to be a contraction that works to the benefit of the industry and the audience at large, it can’t come from cutting off newcomers and telling them we’re full.”

I agree. And for all I know, TV is still expanding. Maybe the quest for inclusion and better representation in Hollywood will pick up steam (though the media’s ongoing coverage of this topic says that, in many regards, that’s not occurring).

But this recent spate of cancellations still worries me, I must admit. Especially in these troubled times, when it’s more important than ever to reinforce views of America that are forward-looking, inclusive and tolerant. I do know that there are men and women in this industry who care deeply about these matters. I often wonder, frankly, if there will ever be enough of them to counteract the entrenched pressures that led to decades of lingering inequality.

I love TV, but it’s an industry that so often relies on — and reverts to — bad habits. The industry’s progress in these vital arenas is patchy and incomplete. That’s one way of saying that I certainly don’t want to see a rerun of where we were a decade ago.

http://variety.com/2017/tv/opinion/...et-down-underground-sweet-vicious-1202450885/

Thanks Trump. Really, thank you.

How the fuck do you spend 9mil an episode? With GoT you can easily justify the 6mil budget(thought this would be higher)

Netflix spent $10 million an episode for The Get Down. Netflix dumped it last week.

 

[tehpope]

I remember that show, the first few episodes were neat, then it got up it's own ass in a bad way and got real boring

So basically its the Matrix Sequels all over again. The Wachowskis should've retired after The Matrix.

 

[Yaoi Huntress Earth]

I have to wonder if Netflix is any good with their money in the first place. If a show like Game of Thrones is spending less than you for a show that doesn't need special locations, costumes and special effects, you have to wonder.

When I first heard of the show, I thought it had a neat concept, but I also feared it would hit SJW/pretentious territory.

 

[D.Va]

Sense8 was pretty fucked with the amount of storytelling they tried to do at once. You had the eight characters in the cluster to begin with, but also their relationships outside the cluster as well, and starting in the second season you had even more important recurring cast members because of the cluster fuckery. To boot, the episodes were too long with too little pacing.

Lol at people considering it a personal attack though

 

[CleverJokeHere]

I have to wonder if Netflix is any good with their money in the first place. If a show like Game of Thrones is spending less than you for a show that doesn't need special locations, costumes and special effects, you have to wonder.

When I first heard of the show, I thought it had a neat concept, but I also feared it would hit SJW/pretentious territory.

I wonder if somebody or multiple somebodies in production was embezzling. I saw a few episodes, and there's no way those episodes were worth 9 mil a pop.

 

[proteus4994]

How the fuck do you spend 9mil an episode? With GoT you can easily justify the 6mil budget(thought this would be higher)

Anything made by the Wachowskis is gonna be way over budget all the time always.

 

[frozenrunner]

So basically its the Matrix Sequels all over again. The Wachowskis should've retired after The Matrix.

Good news, everyone. They're rebooting The Matrix.

Sense8 was pretty fucked with the amount of storytelling they tried to do at once. You had the eight characters in the cluster to begin with, but also their relationships outside the cluster as well, and starting in the second season you had even more important recurring cast members because of the cluster fuckery. To boot, the episodes were too long with too little pacing.

So they didn't learn anything from Cloud Atlas.

 

[Fork Cartel]

Good news, everyone. They're rebooting The Matrix.

(insert horrifying ratings here)

 

[fam]

Honestly, I'm just salty the final season ended with a cliffhanger.