Sex work isnt empowering - Literal whore becomes an even bigger attention whore

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Whoring is only high risk if the whore in question either won't or can't have her customers use condoms when they fuck. Comparing the mental trauma that comes from being in combat with the supposed trauma that comes from exchanging a service(in this case, sex)for money is almost as dumb as thinking prostitution and porn should be illegal in the first place.
I'd say whoring has way more risks, especially if you're poor, abused, or desperate, which most whores are. If you work under a pimp or madam, you're at the mercy of a capricious boss who is not above beating or killing you. If you work freelance, those same pimps and madams want you dead for stealing clients from their businesses. The clients themselves can get really creepy, abusive, even murderous. Whores are convenient victims for many assholes with dangerous fetishes and serial killers. That doesn't even include all the normal dangers of poor living.

All that stuff can be very traumatizing, PTSD worthy. I wouldn't be surprised if even a "normal" and "consensual" exchange of services is traumatizing because you make yourself vulnerable on demand for a person you're not close to and may even loathe.
 

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I'd say whoring has way more risks, especially if you're poor, abused, or desperate, which most whores are. If you work under a pimp or madam, you're at the mercy of a capricious boss who is not above beating or killing you. If you work freelance, those same pimps and madams want you dead for stealing clients from their businesses. The clients themselves can get really creepy, abusive, even murderous. Whores are convenient victims for many assholes with dangerous fetishes and serial killers. That doesn't even include all the normal dangers of poor living.

All that stuff can be very traumatizing, PTSD worthy. I wouldn't be surprised if even a "normal" and "consensual" exchange of services is traumatizing because you make yourself vulnerable on demand for a person you're not close to and may even loathe.
I mostly disagree with this because most whores aren't streetwalkers. There are middle-market prostitutes who advertise themselves online who typically don't have drug addictions, aren't abuse victims, and aren't necessarily desperate. The client thing is partially true though, but that has to do with the trade being technically illegal in most of the country which in turn means that a disproportionate number of a prostitute's clients will be people who don't care about the law for one reason or another.
 

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In this thread, we see what is for all intents and purposes a feminist say that men of the West are cucks and that this is good and she has a SIMP boyfriend.

Feminism again showing it was never about equality. Its about female supremacy.
 
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I totally agree OP.

I don't understand how sex work can be considered empowering at all. I think this line of thinking often comes from people who've never done sex work, or haven't done it for very long, or who have skirted the fringes of sex work, for example stripping or pole dancing.

There's a reason why most women in sex work have to be forced into it and trafficked, have mental health issues, are autistic (and therefore deadened of emotions), sociopathic (much the same) or fed a steady stream of drugs.

Sex work is dangerous physically as well as mentally and emotionally. There are a lot of deviant, weird people out there and you will deal with them on a steady basis. I don't really understand why there is such a call to name sex work anything other than what it is: work. It's not fun, glamorous or particularly meaningful. It still results in STD's, pregnancy and mental disturbances (yes...for men in the industry also.)

There's a reason why normal, well adjusted people don't go into sex work or if they do, not for very long.

Human trafficking wouldn't be a thing if people wanted to do it.

I totally agree with the poster above who posted that the sexual revolution was designed to harm women whilst pretending to be for women. Fewer things have made women so disposable and disrespected as the sexual revolution, and if you speak against it, you are considered a prude in this vortex of artificial, pornified sexuality.

What's empowering is being healthy, doing a job you enjoy, having a community and family and being respected by those close to you. Sex work erodes these things from a person.
 
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Coming from a culturally conservative background, I've always been critical of the people who've championed "sex work" as empowering. In a vacuum, I can see how it can be empowering if you're a sex worker who doesn't give a shit about what they do Hell, I can even respect a woman who has an Onlyfans page if she's not a fucking sperg who bitches about how "sex work is real work." Why? Because if it's empowering, she wouldn't be demanding career validation from others.

However, the reality of sex work isn't so cut-and-dried. The bitter truth of the matter is that by engaging in sex work, you forfeit all rights you have to bitch about the people you come across. It's fucking sad to me how some people are autistic enough to simp for, stalk, or even harass women who just want to fuck/sell nudes/whatever for money, but those types of people do exist. Hell, you still come across such people on average, customer-facing lines of work like retail, repair, maintenance, or what have you. If customers in more socially acceptable lines of work are capable of being unhinged lunatics, what makes anyone with a functioning brain think that they wouldn't exist in sex work? Furthermore, what makes these "sex workers" feel that they won't be even more unhinged? Sex has been a taboo subject since time immemorial; don't be surprised if you come across creeps in droves.

Another thing that irks me about "sex work" is entitlement. I've briefly touched upon this in a post I made in the Jodee thread, so allow me to elaborate here. Believe it or not, but people who buy nudes have standards. It might not seem plausible at a cursory glance, but hear me out. A sensible buyer for any product prioritises one thing: value. If you're the type of person who charges $50 for bikini photos, word of mouth will spread that your OF is just a glorified Instagram page and you'll lose subscribers.

Similarly, not everyone's going to find you attractive. Like any business venture, it takes monumental effort to grow your brand, but that would imply you have a product worth selling in the first place. If you're a landwhale who's charging $20 a month for heavily edited "lewd" pictures, don't be surprised if you don't have many takers. Any fat findom mistresses you see on Twitter with some modicum of success are likely the exception and not the rule.

Also, people seem to overlook the fact that beauty fades with age. How many porn stars from the mid-to-late 2000s still have active careers in porn now? Even if you're the stereotypical Twitter e-girl who's conventionally attractive in some capacity, those looks aren't gonna stay with you forever. Your subscribers will know that you're ageing faster than you can pick up on it. Some people are definitely into MILF porn, so you might be able to pursue that demographic. However, that well will eventually run dry. What will you do when you're in your mid-30s with a floundering OF page that doesn't even afford you a week's worth of groceries?

Of course, I've focused way too much on sex work as something positive. It's no secret that human trafficking drives a large portion of activity in the world of sex work. Legal brothels along with consensual and dare I say ethical pornography won't ever change the fact that shady shit always happens behind the scenes in the broader field of sex work. At its most basic, we have Asian massage parlours busted for being brothels in disguise on the local news. At its most sinister, we have shit like coercion of barely legal women into pornography and prostitution, human trafficking, sexual abuse, and all kinds of nasty shit happening behind the scenes. Sex work can never be a normalised line of work because everyone knows that some genuinely horrible stuff happens all the time. Pornhub is 100% legal, but am I supposed to forget about all the stories where revenge porn and CP were readily available on the site without any intervention on Pornhub's part without legal involvement?

Finally, there's the matter of how this focus on sex work being empowering ignores other cultural values on shit like sexuality and female empowerment. I won't deny that the Middle East/Central/South Asia has a lot of issues with women's rights. Even so, that doesn't change the fact that so many brown women have gone on to become doctors, lawyers, engineers, nuclear physicists, professors, and so many other types of well-educated professions. This is mainly due to how stigmatised sex is in that part of the world due to religion and culture. While I will admit that's only true for well-educated women that compose a minority of the population, that still doesn't change the fact that female literacy and education is an initiative that countries like Iran and India have been pushing for years. When sex isn't an option for women to explore for empowerment, you'll find that literacy and education take priority. After all, no one wants to stay in a shithole village for the rest of their lives.

At the end of the day, there are far too many reasons why sex work being empowering is a logical fallacy. If you're a self-professed sex worker who finds what they do empowering, more power to you. Even so, don't forget that sex work as a whole won't ever be accepted as a genuinely empowering field to work in unless until all the shady shit goes away (which it never will). Also, sex work won't ever hold a candle to education being the more effective tool for female empowerment.
 
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“When you do sex work instead of gradually making more money as you age you gradually make less. This leaves you with no income and no skill when age finally catches up to you.”

“ACTUALLY there are two prostitutes in Amsterdam who make bank in their 70’s.”

“I think it’s a fair generalization that most people would rather hire a 25 year old prostitute than a 45 year old prostitute.”

“Ew, guess you like ‘em young, huh? Creep.”
 
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it's not empowering because it's a job where you cater to men who do not respect you. women try to say that they have the power because they are the ones making the money, but guess what: i pay spics to mow my lawn. their job is still to cater to me. i pay the plumber to pump the shit from my pipes. his job is to cater to me. they are not empowering jobs. despite that, i still respect those jobs way more than i respect a lazy college dropout shoving a dragon dildo up her loose asshole.

it's not empowering, it's easy money. aint nothing wrong with easy money. but you don't get to sit your used goods ass on a pedestal for it and demand respect.
 
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After all, no one wants to stay in a shithole village for the rest of their lives.
you'd be really surprised how many do. Even among Americans, I've known quiet a few who never traveled abroad (even Canada or Mexico) or went to see places.

it's not empowering because it's a job where you cater to men who do not respect you. women try to say that they have the power because they are the ones making the money, but guess what: i pay spics to mow my lawn. their job is still to cater to me. i pay the plumber to pump the shit from my pipes. his job is to cater to me. they are not empowering jobs. despite that, i still respect those jobs way more than i respect a lazy college dropout shoving a dragon dildo up her loose asshole.

it's not empowering, it's easy money. aint nothing wrong with easy money. but you don't get to sit your used goods ass on a pedestal for it and demand respect.
I've heard about Eastern Euros setting up cam farms with hired help and I don't know, but probably that's going on in Asia too. We are probably not reached saturation point. I don't get simps paying money for some slut's snatch vid, but obviously demand is higher than supply if money making cam vids pay that well and/or marketing from 3rd worlders is not reaching Western markets. I also heard about foreign cam girls working with interpreters too. Cam whoring may be taking pay cut real soon.
 

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people who pay for things like camshow interaction or onlyfans are usually paying for the parasocial relationship, i believe. which is also why i don't feel sorry for niggas who pay, because that shit is mad pathetic.
It's like people giving DSP money. It's just so sad.
 

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Condoms eliminate the most serious STD risk, HIV/AIDs. Legal prostitution has the same sort of "unique" risks that other jobs which involve popularity involve, stalkers and shit like that. You negate a lot of that risk by owning a firearm and knowing how and when to use it.
You think the risk profile of a celebrity and a prostitute is identical?

Here's one thing that a prostitute sells when she sells her body. She is selling her romantic future. High quality men will never commit to someone who has been a prostitute. Mid to low quality men won't commit to her while she is a prostitute. But prostitution does help reduce rape, so there's that.
 
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the only thing that can truly 'empower' a women is by having a husband, having babies, becoming a mother, and staying at home. No women have been empowered by working ANYWHERE.
 
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Just read the horrifying reviews of prostituted woman that their customers leave. The men who purchase sex workers don't see them as human. It's why so many prostitutes get murdered, even in countries where it's legal like Germany.
I don't understand why anyone would want to have sex with a stranger who clearly finds them revolting and is only doing it for money, but that's johns, simps and pimps for you. Truly degenerate in every sense of the word.
 

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Agreed with the OP.

It is not empowering to willingly place yourself into a role that Patriarchal men created long ago. The very idea that it is fair compensation or "powerful" for a woman to get praise, pay and attention because she is willing to take her clothes off for a stranger, only willingly to be discarded afterward, is not empowerment. It stems from internalized misogyny, where women are brainwashed to believe that they should be pet on the head and praised for acting like a sexual object. Allowing a man to discard you afterward, simply in exchange for praise, pay and attention is devaluing of one's self.

Sex and nudity was created for the intimate setting of a committed relationship. It is only in that setting that a woman will be treated with the highest dignity and empowerment. When you make a man commit before receiving sexual gratification from you as a woman, then you uphold your value!
 
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