Sex work isnt empowering - Literal whore becomes an even bigger attention whore

semiurgent

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Empowerment is a meaningless term in current year. For me, not revealing intimate, personal details about myself in public boards is highly empowering. For others, not so much.

Onto more important things, @Niggaplease , if you'd be so kind, do post some cabbit pics on your profile. After the saga in the riot thread I want to see the fluffy guy doing well. Free advice though, remember to strip the metadata and rename the files.

EDIT: Your ex sounds shitty, but this probably isn't the place where you'll get the support you're looking for, truth be told. All the best.
 

Niggaplease

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Empowerment is a meaningless term in current year. For me, not revealing intimate, personal details about myself in public boards is highly empowering. For others, not so much.

Onto more important things, @Niggaplease , if you'd be so kind, do post some cabbit pics on your profile. After the saga in the riot thread I want to see the fluffy guy doing well. Free advice though, remember to strip the metadata and rename the files.


EDIT: Your ex sounds shitty, but this probably isn't the place where you'll get the support you're looking for, truth be told. All the best.
I don't care about support, I'm moving back near the tigers den. I'm not just a histrionic women I've just seen hell. besides if I go missing At least I can leave some trace. I literally nuked all social media. I keep having a premonition something's gonna go down.
edit: I forgot he once threatened to burn me alive. that's why I have no social media. so no one can track me.
 

semiurgent

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I don't care about support, I'm moving back near the tigers den. I'm not just a histrionic women I've just seen hell. besides if I go missing At least I can leave some trace. I literally nuked all social media. I keep having a premonition something's gonna go down.
edit: I forgot he once threatened to burn me alive. that's why I have no social media. so no one can track me.
Word cool but like definitely post cat pics first.
 

Flynt's Missing Pecker

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I don't care about support, I'm moving back near the tigers den. I'm not just a histrionic women I've just seen hell. besides if I go missing At least I can leave some trace. I literally nuked all social media. I keep having a premonition something's gonna go down.
edit: I forgot he once threatened to burn me alive. that's why I have no social media. so no one can track me.
I’m thinking the Venn diagram of women who become cam whores and also choose poorly when selecting a mate may have a fair bit of overlap.
 

Orange Rhymer

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bad comparison. playing sports isn't inherently humiliating and demeaning like prostitution is.

after a failed attempt at pro sports, you still have something to look back on that you can be content with or even proud of: you competed, you tried your best, you put in work and effort. that alone is worth something, it's a sign of good character and personality.
plus, even if you didn't cut it in the pro world, you're still a skilled athlete, which gives you a baseline of respect from other people, and can potentially be leveraged for gains further down the line: you can coach younger players, you can teach your skills to students, you can go into general fitness and do personal training, etc.

but what do you have after a failed attempt at making big money in porn or prostitution? that's something to be ashamed of, something you have to hide because decent people will have nothing but contempt for you if they find out. you don't have any skills or experience that's worth anything to anybody, you can't make anything of it. you made yourself an outcast, a social pariah. you're also probably traumatized and emotionally scarred from the experience. and the worst thing? nobody forced you to do this. you did it all yourself, by your own choice, and you know it.
Why does your self-worth depend so much on the opinions of others?

Also, your description of 'Hell' is hysterical.
 
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Niggaplease

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Why does your self-worth depend so much on the opinions of others?

Also, your description of 'Hell' is hysterical.
Yeah so ending up in an abusive relationship that was literal hell is "hysterical". go fuck yourself, it's not histrionics all that shit actually happened to me and it has fucked me up in ways you can't imagine. I literally was tortured and threatened into silence for fucking years.
 

Bum Driller

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Saying icecream makes you fat and also sometimes eating icecream is not hypocritical.

Saying prostitution is bad for everyone involved, from prostitute to john, to pornographer to voyeur, and also in occasion being seduced by it is not hypocritical.

One does not need to be perfect to lay bare relationships between things that are bad in various ways.

It's just the people (ie you, bumdriller) with no morality trying to attack those that try to adhere to a moral code, by appealing to morality that they themselves place no value in.

Or to put more simply: why do you hold your ideological opponents to a higher standard than yourself? Is that not a tacit approval of the moral worth of their position?
If you enjoy pornographic material, but at the same time condemn those who act in it, that's just hypocrisy. Or if you really are so weak in your convictions that you're "occasionally seduced" by it, it's just spineless behavior. Either way, according to my moral understanding, both hypocrisy and spinelessness are actually disgusting and sub-human behavior. Eating ice-cream while thinking it makes you fat is not comparable to this situation in any way. You can always balance it out by exercising more, but no amount of prayers or other hollow gestures of "purity" will save you from being a weak hypocrite.

I'm not holding anyone to higher standards than myself. I've no illusions about my own moral standing, so to speak. I know perfectly well that I can't judge those who choose to work in adult industry when I myself consume their products. Unlike you, it seems. But then again, I don't condemn anyone, not even spineless hypocrites.
 

Lemmingwise

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If you enjoy pornographic material, but at the same time condemn those who act in it, that's just hypocrisy

Or if you really are so weak in your convictions that you're "occasionally seduced" by it, it's just spineless behavior. Either way, according to my moral understanding, both hypocrisy and spinelessness are actually disgusting and sub-human behavior. Eating ice-cream while thinking it makes you fat is not comparable to this situation in any way. You can always balance it out by exercising more, but no amount of prayers or other hollow gestures of "purity" will save you from being a weak hypocrite.

I'm not holding anyone to higher standards than myself. I've no illusions about my own moral standing, so to speak. I know perfectly well that I can't judge those who choose to work in adult industry when I myself consume their products. Unlike you, it seems. But then again, I don't condemn anyone, not even spineless hypocrites.
Responding to the bolded part:

It only is when enjoyment is the highest virtue. It seems that to you it is.

Not everyone puts hedonism and persuit of pleasure as their primary motivating factor.

I'll ask you this: 1. why are actions of purity hollow by definition? You think exercise can balance eating sugary stuff.

2. Do you think no such balance exists when it comes to corrupted sexuality? Can you really compare, for arguments sake, a woman who spends much of her life offering an out to prostitutes, but also engages in the occasional schlick to pornography, to a loverboy or pimp who seeks out vulnerable underage girls to get them dependant on him? Are these, assuming no other differences, really equal? Is the pimp the morally better of the two because he is not "hypocritical"?

Isn't the word hypocrisy an excuse to do what comes natural to people: to condemn or indemnify someone for a corrupt part of their actions? Isn't hypocrisy just the excuse so that you can focus on the imperfection of people that try morally help themselves and others, simply by pointing out that it is bad for you and in what ways it is bad for you?

You say you don't condemn, but at the same time suddenly need various insults, from spineless to weak willed and even subhuman. But you don't condemn. Lmao, give me a break.
 

Bum Driller

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Responding to the bolded part:

It only is when enjoyment is the highest virtue. It seems that to you it is.

Not everyone puts hedonism and persuit of pleasure as their primary motivating factor.

I'll ask you this: 1. why are actions of purity hollow by definition? You think exercise can balance eating sugary stuff.

2. Do you think no such balance exists when it comes to corrupted sexuality? Can you really compare, for arguments sake, a woman who spends much of her life offering an out to prostitutes, but also engages in the occasional schlick to pornography, to a loverboy or pimp who seeks out vulnerable underage girls to get them dependant on him? Are these, assuming no other differences, really equal? Is the pimp the morally better of the two because he is not "hypocritical"?

Isn't the word hypocrisy an excuse to do what comes natural to people: to condemn or indemnify someone for a corrupt part of their actions? Isn't hypocrisy just the excuse so that you can focus on the imperfection of people that try morally help themselves and others, simply by pointing out that it is bad for you and in what ways it is bad for you?

You say you don't condemn, but at the same time suddenly need various insults, from spineless to weak willed and even subhuman. But you don't condemn. Lmao, give me a break.
First off, I certainly don't put hedonism or pursuit of pleasure as my primary motivating factors. But neither do I claim that I wouldn't have such traits.

Secondly, to your question I would say that it's pointless. Of course the willful corrupter is not morally better of the two, and I certainly don't see hypocrisy in the actions of the woman in your example. I honestly can't understand how you see, but then again, I don't really care either.

Calling you spineless, hypocrite or weak is neither an insult nor condemnation. It's merely an observation on the state of your character.
 

DumbDude42

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If you enjoy pornographic material, but at the same time condemn those who act in it, that's just hypocrisy.
literally every man on earth enjoys pornographic material. it's literally hard-wired into our brains. doesn't change anything about the net negative that this industry has on society.

it's a bit like calling a heroin junkie a hypocrite when he says that drugs are bad. if anything, you could call him weak-minded and weak-willed because he can't resist the cravings, but calling him a hypocrite for enjoying the sensation of the drug is just dumb because that's just nature - every human on earth would experience great pleasure and enjoyment from heroin, because that's just what the substance does to our brains.
 

Lemmingwise

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First off, I certainly don't put hedonism or pursuit of pleasure as my primary motivating factors. But neither do I claim that I wouldn't have such traits.

Secondly, to your question I would say that it's pointless. Of course the willful corrupter is not morally better of the two, and I certainly don't see hypocrisy in the actions of the woman in your example. I honestly can't understand how you see, but then again, I don't really care either.

Calling you spineless, hypocrite or weak is neither an insult nor condemnation. It's merely an observation on the state of your character.
I didn't ask whether the woman was hypocritical. I asked what makes health in diet and exercise different than sexual health, where in one we can weigh the good against the bad and not in the other. Also, how pointing out such connections is not by itself hypocritical, even if it is a fatty saying that sugar makes you fat. There is literally nothing hypocritical about that.

Also, no answers to my questions.
 

Orange Rhymer

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Yeah so ending up in an abusive relationship that was literal hell is "hysterical". go fuck yourself, it's not histrionics all that shit actually happened to me and it has fucked me up in ways you can't imagine. I literally was tortured and threatened into silence for fucking years.
You were "literally was tortured and threatened into silence for fucking years" ? Really? LITERALLY?!
or just 'Reddit literally'.
Call the UN, call the Human Rights commission!

doubt.

Also, No one here cares.
Not your fucking therapist.

You used lonely men for money, now you are trying to use bored men for attention.
You were, are, and always will be a
Whore.
You made yourself this by programming your brain for a hit of dopamine in exchange for attention/cash.

Now be a good whore for us. Post tits.
 
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Lemmingwise

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It's one thing to hurt myself it's another matter to engage in an industry that hurts others.
No, thot, it's just as bad to hurt yourself.

The arrows of our anguish fly further than we guess.

fuck it I'm really chomping at the bit to not powerlevel to much but fuck it.
here's a comprehensive list of what my ex did to me:
1. break into my house with out permission and took roughly 200 dollars out of my bedroom, all the while locking a possum in my house.
2. tortured me the next day under the promise of returning said money then afterward threatened me if I told anyone he'd traffick me to Detroit and said he would video and send it to my mother.
3. he consistentantly verbally abuse me at every turn, and always use his connections as means of intimidation.
4. he kept suicide baiting me when he felt no other method worked.
5. Every time I showed a hint of morality he would find some way to punish it.
6. He took control of my finances and isolated me from friends and family.
7. he would provide me info of other shit he was doing to other girls as a means of intimidation.
8. Did I mention every little thing I told him he used it against me?
9. was mean to my animals in front of me basically abused them.
10. literally tried to force me into other kinds of sex work.
That sounds terrible. But I know people that have it worse.

We have to read your posts.
 

Orange Rhymer

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No, thot, it's just as bad to hurt yourself.

The arrows of our anguish fly further than we guess.



That sounds terrible. But I know people that have it worse.

We have to read your posts.
kinda funny.
NONE of those items are even close to the definition of torture.

Daily reminder to post your tits @Niggaplease - YOU OWE US
 

Fangsofjeff

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I think liberal feminism has been a shitshow since the early 2010's, even before troonery got popular. Misandry was rampant during the Gamergate era. Male became an insult. There was also the #believewomen trend which encouraged people never to question women. This led to guys getting punished over false rape accusations like this one:

It was incredibly frustrating being seen as more important than my boyfriend. I considered us equals but suddenly a gaggle of people decided to give my opinion more worth than his just because I was born in the right kind of body.


Despite power dynamic I held I was still objectified. Little more than a fetish dispenser, even if I was the controller. How can that be considered feminist?
I fail to see what's wrong with being consensually objectified.

Who legitimately wakes up one day and thinks, I'm going to do something degrading for work, and not have an underlying issue.
Degradation and empowerment are subjective. If you feel degraded when you do something, it's degrading. If you feel empowered when you do something, it's empowering. It doesn't matter what the something in question is.
 
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Lemmingwise

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Degradation and empowerment are subjective. If you feel degraded when you do something, it's degrading. If you feel empowered when you do something, it's empowering. It doesn't matter what the something in question is.
This is fundamentally wrong. Please argue how drinking someone's piss can be empowering. Or how it's degrading to have servants who will do whatever you ask. There may be some edge cases, but most of the time it is clear which is which.
 
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