I hate how these cartoon writers make characters that have committed genocide as redeemable. Yet if you voted for Trump in their eyes you can not be forgiven. Give me a break
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FreedomMussel
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Spoken like someone who lives a very sheltered and privileged life. It’s easy to think that you can solve genocide with diplomacy when you’re not on the receiving end.
Trianon
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Eh, I treat most of the "crimes" of villains in fantasy/kids' shows as metaphorical. Yes, they could write it so their crimes aren't genocidal, but there's usually some loophole anyway (like the Gems getting bubbled in Steven Universe) so kids don't have to deal with mass death directly. I think where they have to nail it is on the interpersonal level to show that people who make mistakes can make up for them, which is the point of villain redemption. Darth Vader was technically redeemed, still helped destroy a planet, but the important thing is that his son forgave him and he protected his son in his final moments.
I don't really think either Steven Universe or She-Ra (what I've heard of the ending) do a great job with the character arcs to justify that redemption, but I give fantasy stories like this a lot of leeway because actually putting them on trial for war crimes is a dumb ending even if it's realistic. I just want emotional completion, so I can at least understand why the hero wants to forgive them or help them.
EDIT: Basically the worse a villain is, the more *meaningful* it is if they change. And that's something we all relate to if we want to make up for our failures. Doesn't mean we ever see it the same in the real world, just that the emotional arc is coherent and relatable.
I don't really think either Steven Universe or She-Ra (what I've heard of the ending) do a great job with the character arcs to justify that redemption, but I give fantasy stories like this a lot of leeway because actually putting them on trial for war crimes is a dumb ending even if it's realistic. I just want emotional completion, so I can at least understand why the hero wants to forgive them or help them.
EDIT: Basically the worse a villain is, the more *meaningful* it is if they change. And that's something we all relate to if we want to make up for our failures. Doesn't mean we ever see it the same in the real world, just that the emotional arc is coherent and relatable.
I wouldn't say that it's fair to make that comparison entirely. It depends on perspective. Yes, people who live sheltered lives in first world countries don't get to see the bare bones reality of a home being systematically purged for some arbitrary greater good or resources, but that would validate the woke idiots who use that same logic on people who had nothing to do with what happened in the past.
Star Wars back then was pretty campy and not to be taken too seriously. The "final battle" would have played out very differently if it was any more serious.
FreedomMussel
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The best punishment for the Diamonds, Catra, etc is...
Hand them a Lament Configuration and tell them to solve it.
Hand them a Lament Configuration and tell them to solve it.
I really don't think the Cenobites would be able to stand the Diamonds crying like bitches asking for forgiveness.
starborn427614
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They've expressed remorse, but I don't think forgiveness is a thing with them. They're too autistic to understand that concept.
FreedomMussel
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They won’t need mouths where they’re going.
starborn427614
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Not sure torture would work on a rock lol. Could put them in a dark place and deprive them of light, that sounds like a suitable method.
Hell in the Hellraiser universe can be anything that their victims will find torturous. So, yes, they will suffer since Leviathan would be thrilled to have such beings added to his collection and will never let them leave.
starborn427614
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Neat. Kind of wish I'd been into the series as a kid since I'm sure I would've found the concept of Cenobites fascinating.
Let's just say that if anyone ever sees Leviathan with their very own eyes, the image that they'll almost always see is that of a friendly milkman.
I'm not even kidding. With how grotesque and garish the series is, the very god of Hell assuming such an innocuous form is arguably one of the most disturbing things about it.
It doesn't even have to be a Lament Configuration per se. Basically any kind of "puzzle" will do.
Whether it be walking through a maze, figuring out the number combination of a set of rooms, the combination to a complicated lock, or the pattern of a specially designed skyscraper to reach the roof, etc.
So long as it is solved, the puzzle will act as a key to Hell.
FreedomMussel
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I read the comics too. All of those puzzles are called Lament Configurations too.
Even long time fans visualize a box whenever they hear "Lament Configuration". All of the other kinds of puzzles are variations unique to each Cenobite and/or their gash.
I can easily imagine the Diamonds be tricked into solving a geometric puzzle easily.
Catra seems to be more suited to a maze. Any box or handheld puzzle she'd be given will only be smashed out of frustration.
Fingers crossed.
FreedomMussel
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They gave Adam a magical girl transformation scene. I can't contain my laughter. It's so neo-80s cheesy.
Also, NuRa still sucks. The side-by-side comparison emphasizes how ugly the "CalArts" style is.
Also, NuRa still sucks. The side-by-side comparison emphasizes how ugly the "CalArts" style is.
Uranus Pink
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The cartoon Centurions had done the male version of the magical girl transformation back in 86 and with zero percent gayness.
Edit for video of transformations.
Edit for video of transformations.
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starborn427614
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She-Ra's use of the style always felt a bit by the numbers to me. It's hard to explain.
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