Infected Shippers, Militant-Shippers, and Shipping Wars - When fictional characters fucking each other is a political statement

Ceiling Kitten

Yep, Kitty IS watching you!
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So, uh...Reid/Kimi is Reylo now? And I’d love to see evidence that it’s mostly “allocishet/homophobes” because the ones I know who ship Reylo are anything but those things.

Why are Nikkimi fans this fucking pathetic, oh my Gawd. You can smell how terrified they are after Reid’s Dreamweaver dropped and showed that, while the boy's not a saint, he’s not the evil monster they wanted him to be.
 
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sarcasticslipandslide

recovering from stage 3 troonacy
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I realize it's been about three years since Gravity Falls was last mentioned, but I wanted to throw my two cents in as someone who was actively involved in the Tumblr community during its heyday: it wasn't just Stancest and Pinecest. Good God, it wasn't just Stancest and Pinecest. At one point the fandom devolved into shipping the entire Pines family together, with Stan/Mabel and Ford/Dipper being the pairings-within-pairings, but there were plenty of fanfics where all four of them were thrown together in a horrible old/young pedophilic orgy. Literally, a fanfic exists called "Our Family Portrait Is A Sex Tape", which sums that section of the fandom up quite well.

People like laur-rants (as mentioned previously in the thread) were just the tip of the iceberg, and there were others who wrote entire dissertations about how Alex Hirsch totally meant for Stancest to be canon (despite the character of Grunkle Stan being based on his own grandfather), but "stupid Disney" was censoring all the old man incest out of the show. Even if your life depended on it, you could not escape the Gravity Falls incest cyclone, and it made trying to actually engage with the fandom a gargantuan task.

EDIT: Rate me late if this has been mentioned already, but another thing about fandoms with heavy incest/pedophilia ships is that they actively encourage people who have suffered from incestuous/pedophilic abuse to participate, claiming that it can be "therapeutic" and help them overcome their trauma. The Gravity Falls fandom had this in spades, and given the young, impressionable audience the show garnered, I can only imagine it became ground zero for grooming minors.
 
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Android raptor

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So, uh...Reid/Kimi is Reylo now? And I’d love to see evidence that it’s mostly “allocishet/homophobes” because the ones I know who ship Reylo are anything but those things.

Yeah most Reylos are pretty typical nerd girls that are pro-LGBTQ. More than not like a variety of ships, and a lot of them are also into Stormpilot and Kylux. Which has caused drama because a lot of the hardcore stormpilot shippers are batshit insane antis.

Lol@ them claiming if Kylo was a woman there would be barely any Reylos. Last I checked Catadora, which is basically lesbian Reylo, is massively popular.

I do think there would be a lot fewer antis if Reylo was a same-sex ship.
 

Ceiling Kitten

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How pathetic, holy shit. :story: :story: :story: :story: :story: :story: :story: :story: :story: :story: :story: :story: :story: :story: :story: :story: :story: :story:
 

gratedcheese

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The spergs in the Cookie Run fandom are going insane once again because of shipping.

Essentially, every year, Devsisters (the developers of the Cookie Run apps) post a Valentine's Day video where they feature art from the community. Obviously, them being Korean, they don't particularly give a shit about the "shipping morality" shit. They apparently featured a ship that is "pedophilic" (which I don't understand because they're fucking cookies, though the fandom argues they're "child-coded" or whatever) and people are losing their minds on Twitter, demanding they take down the video.

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Apparently, Devsisters gets into controversy quite frequently because the fandom is comprised by antis and they don't tend to bow to western puritanical bullshit. For a group of people that claim to hate Devsisters and be "disgusted" by them, they sure as fuck still play their game, pickpocket their parents' credit cards to give them in-app purchases, and watch the ads. What ever happened to the concept of absolutely not supporting anyone who does one thing wrong?

I'm assuming some of this is out of jealousy, as it was a contest to get into the video, so I'm assuming some of these people are angry their Tumblrized cookies didn't get in.

Also, unrelated to shipping, there was some "whitewashed" art included (again, they're cookies, and while some are meant to be from certain cultures, races aren't 100% established), and people are throwing a fit over that too.
 

Literally Whojak?

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The spergs in the Cookie Run fandom are going insane once again because of shipping.

Essentially, every year, Devsisters (the developers of the Cookie Run apps) post a Valentine's Day video where they feature art from the community. Obviously, them being Korean, they don't particularly give a shit about the "shipping morality" shit. They apparently featured a ship that is "pedophilic" (which I don't understand because they're fucking cookies, though the fandom argues they're "child-coded" or whatever) and people are losing their minds on Twitter, demanding they take down the video.


Apparently, Devsisters gets into controversy quite frequently because the fandom is comprised by antis and they don't tend to bow to western puritanical bullshit. For a group of people that claim to hate Devsisters and be "disgusted" by them, they sure as fuck still play their game, pickpocket their parents' credit cards to give them in-app purchases, and watch the ads. What ever happened to the concept of absolutely not supporting anyone who does one thing wrong?

I'm assuming some of this is out of jealousy, as it was a contest to get into the video, so I'm assuming some of these people are angry their Tumblrized cookies didn't get in.

Also, unrelated to shipping, there was some "whitewashed" art included (again, they're cookies, and while some are meant to be from certain cultures, races aren't 100% established), and people are throwing a fit over that too.
Literally any fanart related event Devsis hosts there ends up being a shitshow in the western fanbase so this was to be expected either way. I genuinely feel bad for MicMac for having to deal with these crazies almost 24/7.

I’m this close to saying "fuck it" and just going ahead and making a general Cookie Run thread. I know we can’t make anymore fandom related threads due to most of them becoming Spergatory levels of awful but CR‘s fanbase is milky as fuck and the games themselves churn out tons of content every month. Only problem I have is that I suck at wording myself and it might be a little difficult finding evidence of past drama;
 

Saffronette

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Literally any fanart related event Devsis hosts there ends up being a shitshow in the western fanbase so this was to be expected either way. I genuinely feel bad for MicMac for having to deal with these crazies almost 24/7.

I’m this close to saying "fuck it" and just going ahead and making a general Cookie Run thread. I know we can’t make anymore fandom related threads due to most of them becoming Spergatory levels of awful but CR‘s fanbase is milky as fuck and the games themselves churn out tons of content every month. Only problem I have is that I suck at wording myself and it might be a little difficult finding evidence of past drama;
What a coincidence! I was able to screencap this exchange earlier today from a fan server when the Valentine's Day video was posted. I watched the video and it was really innocent so I don't know why these fuckers are raising concerns about it? Well the good news is that the mods prevent them from completely sperging out in general.
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howyadoin

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This month antis on twitter are calling on a stance against "proshippers". It is quite a change considering that it has always the antis being called out, but it could just be me being late.

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As it turns out, proshippers are having a hashtag event called #proshipartstyle, accelerating the situation.

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One Man Bland

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This month antis on twitter are calling on a stance against "proshippers". It is quite a change considering that it has always the antis being called out, but it could just be me being late.

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“Gee ain’t it suspicious that all these adults drawing porn mark all their adult oriented accounts as being only for adults so that minors like myself can’t follow them? I mean, why would they do that if they REALLY cared about minors, huh? HUH? Checkmate pervs.”

Phew lad.
 

gratedcheese

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Was going to say something along the lines of the following, but he took the words right out of my mouth:
“Gee ain’t it suspicious that all these adults drawing porn mark all their adult oriented accounts as being only for adults so that minors like myself can’t follow them? I mean, why would they do that if they REALLY cared about minors, huh? HUH? Checkmate pervs.”

Phew lad.
Yeah, this is especially ironic considering the fact that numerous adult antis have been caught red-handed grooming and sending pornography to minors, using the "Hey look! I'm a good adult!" rhetoric to justify, and, in their words, normalize the behavior to the minors. This tweet threw me off-guard as well, because it comes off like "yes my anti friends draw porn and let me see it teehee!" And this environment is safer for minors... how? Because the porn you're viewing isn't riddled with incest? Yes, because porn is apparently alright for minors to view if all characters are 18+, not related, within a year or so of one another, have a perfectly healthy and close dynamic (but not too close because that means they have a sibling relationship!), and it's completely free of anything that falls out of the realm of vanilla. I say that in jest, of course.

Also, adult "pr*shippers" don't care about the opinion of minors on porn because minors shouldn't be viewing it or be participating in conversations about kink. Of course, the ones that do care primarily do because they're sick of constantly being accused of horrible crimes for shipping, or they just like to argue. If I'm honest, I wish less of them did care, that way they could spend less time justifying their kinks and looking like spergs about it. But oh well, as I said, if someone starts calling you a pedophile online for shipping a 15 year-old and an 18 year-old, you've gotta defend yourself.

On a side note, I thought anti-shippers stopped calling themselves "antis" a while back and just started calling themselves "normal people" or "anti-MAP" to make their cause seem less about fictional characters. It's funny because they'll pick the name back up ever-so-often when pro-shippers start coming out of the woodwork, then backpedal and be like "I'm just a normal person!" Yes, a normal person who is so immersed in fandom you think that a piece of incest fanart is going to make everybody with a living family member in the fandom start fucking their relatives. Shipping in the first place is not something "normal people" do, hate to break it to you.

Off-topic, but it seems that Jams3D, a popular FNAF 3D animator, has also decided to throw their two-cents on the discourse.

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Ah yes, because your latest project totally isn't a degenerate animation about a sexualized animatronic (who is possibly possessed by the spirit of a child) simping for an adult man to the tune of a song with yandere themes.

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Yeah, the anti community would not take kindly to that. How much you want to bet Jams does some weird FNAF furry porn commissions on the side?

Not only that, but the misinformation around pro-shippers is grossly irresponsible and contributes to more harassment, especially with as big of a platform as they have and the audience of it. The FNAF fandom these days is comprised primarily of antis, which is shocking, considering the foundations it was built on. It's pretty bad, but there's a goldmine of sperg content. I may do a large post with some of the stuff I've gathered over the past few months.
 

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gratedcheese

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Google has failed me in explaining pro-shipping. Most I got is this
which, at face value, I agree with.
Being pro-ship is essentially the belief that you can ship and let ship, no matter how degenerate the pairing. Basically, it's just not throwing a bitch fit every time you see a nasty pairing, like a father and a son. It's supposed to be an anti-harassment movement, since antis go after fandom members for shipping certain things, and though what pro-shippers have done pale in comparison to what antis do, there's still a fair amount of hypocritical pro-shippers. It basically boils down to whether or not you believe shipping should have boundaries. Personally, I am biased more towards the pro-ship side, because I don't like the precedent of restricting fictional pairings in fanbases and how goalposts are often moved to justify smear campaigns.

However, pro-shippers have a bad rap in the fandom world because antis have conflated it with being a pedophile and other awful things, even if you do not ship anything that could be qualified as such. Even if you say, "Maybe you should leave people alone over fictional characters," you will be called a pedo sympathizer. Not to say that pro-shippers can't be creepy or never ship this kind of stuff, because I've seen a lot of them that are loli-obsessed thirty year-olds who kind of cross some boundaries. There's also a lot of progressivism tied to being pro-ship, such as being pro-kink and pro-porn, which I tend to agree with, though I see a lot of ridiculous people saying that teenagers being uncomfortable with shotacon are misogynists. You've got that fair share of weird oppression Olympics gymnastics SJW types tend to do to try and better their argument. I don't believe in harassment, but I also don't think you should pretend having a fetish is activism, just like defending fictional characters isn't.

Pro-shippers do tend to ship "problematic" stuff because they understand liking it, and that they can separate their fantasies from real desires. They are the vocal majority and rally behind the label because they're notoriously put down in fandom these days, which is why the stereotype of a pro-shipper is someone who likes those ships and can be sometimes super creepy about them. Though, really, more people align with the "don't-like-don't-look" policy than there are antis, but are silent because, well, they move on without saying anything. Antis seem bigger in numbers because they are vocal and tend to flock to the content in groups, sharing it amongst themselves to have a circlejerk about how non-degenerate they are. I can't tell you how many antis have a giant stash of incest porn on a side account while their yelling about "glorification" on their mains.

TL;dr: Can you move on if you see some absolutely abhorrent fanart without throwing an autistic fit? If yes, then that's basically what being pro-ship is about.
 

Berrakh

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Being pro-ship is essentially the belief that you can ship and let ship, no matter how degenerate the pairing. Basically, it's just not throwing a bitch fit every time you see a nasty pairing, like a father and a son. It's supposed to be an anti-harassment movement, since antis go after fandom members for shipping certain things, and though what pro-shippers have done pale in comparison to what antis do, there's still a fair amount of hypocritical pro-shippers. It basically boils down to whether or not you believe shipping should have boundaries. Personally, I am biased more towards the pro-ship side, because I don't like the precedent of restricting fictional pairings in fanbases and how goalposts are often moved to justify smear campaigns.

However, pro-shippers have a bad rap in the fandom world because antis have conflated it with being a pedophile and other awful things, even if you do not ship anything that could be qualified as such. Even if you say, "Maybe you should leave people alone over fictional characters," you will be called a pedo sympathizer. Not to say that pro-shippers can't be creepy or never ship this kind of stuff, because I've seen a lot of them that are loli-obsessed thirty year-olds who kind of cross some boundaries. There's also a lot of progressivism tied to being pro-ship, such as being pro-kink and pro-porn, which I tend to agree with, though I see a lot of ridiculous people saying that teenagers being uncomfortable with shotacon are misogynists. You've got that fair share of weird oppression Olympics gymnastics SJW types tend to do to try and better their argument. I don't believe in harassment, but I also don't think you should pretend having a fetish is activism, just like defending fictional characters isn't.

Pro-shippers do tend to ship "problematic" stuff because they understand liking it, and that they can separate their fantasies from real desires. They are the vocal majority and rally behind the label because they're notoriously put down in fandom these days, which is why the stereotype of a pro-shipper is someone who likes those ships and can be sometimes super creepy about them. Though, really, more people align with the "don't-like-don't-look" policy than there are antis, but are silent because, well, they move on without saying anything. Antis seem bigger in numbers because they are vocal and tend to flock to the content in groups, sharing it amongst themselves to have a circlejerk about how non-degenerate they are. I can't tell you how many antis have a giant stash of incest porn on a side account while their yelling about "glorification" on their mains.

TL;dr: Can you move on if you see some absolutely abhorrent fanart without throwing an autistic fit? If yes, then that's basically what being pro-ship is about.
I believe shipping should have boundaries but I also suspect the moral police are the newfags and entryists who try to cancel artists for drawing two teenagers in a hug.
 

One Man Bland

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Being pro-ship is essentially the belief that you can ship and let ship, no matter how degenerate the pairing. Basically, it's just not throwing a bitch fit every time you see a nasty pairing, like a father and a son. It's supposed to be an anti-harassment movement, since antis go after fandom members for shipping certain things, and though what pro-shippers have done pale in comparison to what antis do, there's still a fair amount of hypocritical pro-shippers. It basically boils down to whether or not you believe shipping should have boundaries. Personally, I am biased more towards the pro-ship side, because I don't like the precedent of restricting fictional pairings in fanbases and how goalposts are often moved to justify smear campaigns.

However, pro-shippers have a bad rap in the fandom world because antis have conflated it with being a pedophile and other awful things, even if you do not ship anything that could be qualified as such. Even if you say, "Maybe you should leave people alone over fictional characters," you will be called a pedo sympathizer. Not to say that pro-shippers can't be creepy or never ship this kind of stuff, because I've seen a lot of them that are loli-obsessed thirty year-olds who kind of cross some boundaries. There's also a lot of progressivism tied to being pro-ship, such as being pro-kink and pro-porn, which I tend to agree with, though I see a lot of ridiculous people saying that teenagers being uncomfortable with shotacon are misogynists. You've got that fair share of weird oppression Olympics gymnastics SJW types tend to do to try and better their argument. I don't believe in harassment, but I also don't think you should pretend having a fetish is activism, just like defending fictional characters isn't.

Pro-shippers do tend to ship "problematic" stuff because they understand liking it, and that they can separate their fantasies from real desires. They are the vocal majority and rally behind the label because they're notoriously put down in fandom these days, which is why the stereotype of a pro-shipper is someone who likes those ships and can be sometimes super creepy about them. Though, really, more people align with the "don't-like-don't-look" policy than there are antis, but are silent because, well, they move on without saying anything. Antis seem bigger in numbers because they are vocal and tend to flock to the content in groups, sharing it amongst themselves to have a circlejerk about how non-degenerate they are. I can't tell you how many antis have a giant stash of incest porn on a side account while their yelling about "glorification" on their mains.

TL;dr: Can you move on if you see some absolutely abhorrent fanart without throwing an autistic fit? If yes, then that's basically what being pro-ship is about.
I believe shipping should have boundaries but I also suspect the moral police are the newfags and entryists who try to cancel artists for drawing two teenagers in a hug.
I’ve said this before, but a lot of the modern antis and modern versions of the shipping debate are basically an unholy fusion of old shipping slapfight rhetoric now dressed up in SJW lingo and the talking points from Anita Sarkeesian - as seen by how antis in specific fandoms are almost always into a rival ship to the problematic one - and an increasingly poisonous concept to fiction and art “fiction is reality” i.e. that people are by default incapable of critical thinking, so if they see a bad thing in fiction, regardless of the framing surrounding the bad thing, people will assume the bad thing is good and will start doing it. Nevermind that some variation of this argument has cropped up and been debunked pretty much every decade, angry tweets need to be written!

I think that’s another reason why antis on average seem to exhibit an appalling lack of empathy when it comes to real people enduring real suffering. A common one being it turning out how they’ll send death threats and other nasty shit to someone making stuff for villain ship or stuff with themes like abuse or rape, only for it to turn out that the person who was making those things is/was abused or raped and they were drawing from personal experience; which, unsurprisingly, they usually don’t want to discuss the gritty details of with a bunch of assholes needling them fiction to make themselves feel better.
 
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