To be more specific, when North Carolina passed that "bathroom bill", Ian was saying we should feel sorry for the poor ignorant bigots while everyone else called for purging anyone who supported the bill along with their families.
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Was that the incident that brought it to the forefront and I suppose caused the commie troon brigade to unearth all the evil "transmedicalist" posts and even worse wrongthink that Ian has posted? I find it interesting how vehement Ian is about cancel culture to the point of handing out bans like candy for it, but it's probably because they're always trying to cancel him.
It's also very strange that the same website which gives a 7 day kick for saying "I think Kavanaugh/Biden/latest #MeToo'd man's accusers might not be telling the truth" will also give the same kick for saying "All Republicans are bigot scum and need to lose their voting rights".
It's been a while, but I seem to remember that their mods can be very autistically specific about enforcing the rules regarding kickable/bannable offenses. Maybe it allows them to sustain the illusion that they are fair and impartial in their moderation, unlike a more out and out radical site like RevLeft.
Ian at least has enough self-awareness to realize that talking about genociding conservatives might scare off people who would otherwise agree with you. He's a relic of a more innocent time in American leftism.
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Ian the Admin of Alternatehistory.com is deleting all off-topic threads older than a year for "privacy reasons" sometime in May. I only noticed this now so this may be important for anyone who wants to make a thread on AH.com or it's weirdo owner Ian Montgomerie since there's almost 17 years of juicy content that's about to sealed away forever.
https://www.alternatehistory.com/fo...being-removed-from-non-political-chat.508803/ (public)
https://www.alternatehistory.com/forum/threads/old-threads-are-being-removed-from-chat.508802/ (visible only with an account)
Reason being is that Ian is paranoid over cancel culture and is "protecting" his users from it too. Makes sense given the only thing that gets you banned quicker than a right-wing viewpoint on AH.com is support of cancel culture, especially trying to cancel Ian "Slavery Gets Shit Done" Montgomerie.
For instance, Ian does not want you to see what happened on his site the night when he stickied a thread pointing users to the suicide prevention line.
https://www.alternatehistory.com/fo...being-removed-from-non-political-chat.508803/ (public)
https://www.alternatehistory.com/forum/threads/old-threads-are-being-removed-from-chat.508802/ (visible only with an account)
Reason being is that Ian is paranoid over cancel culture and is "protecting" his users from it too. Makes sense given the only thing that gets you banned quicker than a right-wing viewpoint on AH.com is support of cancel culture, especially trying to cancel Ian "Slavery Gets Shit Done" Montgomerie.
For instance, Ian does not want you to see what happened on his site the night when he stickied a thread pointing users to the suicide prevention line.
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Pretty sure there are records of some user's descent into troondom, often groomed by other members.
Also very ironic for a history-focused site to purge it's own history. How can I ever make an alternate history about AlternateHistory.com now?
Does anybody know a functioning alternate history site other than alternatehistory.com? I know Sea Lion Press has a forum, but it's even more politicized as far as I can figure.
Also, anybody know where you can get a .forum domain for cheap? I'd buy alternatehistory.forum just to be funny with Ian if it isn't 1K/year.
Also, anybody know where you can get a .forum domain for cheap? I'd buy alternatehistory.forum just to be funny with Ian if it isn't 1K/year.
Sufficient Velocity has an Alternate History subforum, but they're so obnoxiously woke that they make AH.com look like Free Republic. Alternate-Timelines seems to be somewhat saner.
As I was kind off thinking, either the forums are also very woke or like alternate-timelines (which I have posted on before) very small communities. Nuts. I've thought about throwing my hand in and making a splitter forum at some point, but while I'm pretty sure I could set it up I have no clue how to actually attract people to it. I guess I should just wait for Ian to really fuck it up and alternate-timelines or somewhere else to boom then. I really hate how much influence he has on the community; him being someone who doesn't even seem to participate in alternate history anymore but for the power trip.
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SV is really batshit insane on it's beliefs. It is a example of a pure woke site.
So, I'm probably high on my own autistic fumes, but I've actually bought and set up a forum to try my hand in the creation of a splitter forum for alternate history. Figure it's useless to just bitch about Ian being shit and the alternatives being shit if I don't try something myself. There's literally nobody there at the moment though, but if anybody here wants to join, I'll DM you a link if you want.
Also, to provide some actual content, anybody read The Footprint of Mussolini on ah.com? It's pretty good and has some stuff that I'm genuinely surprised hasn't gotten the author banned for yet. Especially the stuff with Israel in the timeline, it seems almost like it was written by someone trying to piss Ian off by both wanking Israel and not portraying "Zionism" as unreasonably evil. Or how colonialism is show to actually have some good in certain places in the timeline.
Also, to provide some actual content, anybody read The Footprint of Mussolini on ah.com? It's pretty good and has some stuff that I'm genuinely surprised hasn't gotten the author banned for yet. Especially the stuff with Israel in the timeline, it seems almost like it was written by someone trying to piss Ian off by both wanking Israel and not portraying "Zionism" as unreasonably evil. Or how colonialism is show to actually have some good in certain places in the timeline.
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I never even knew about this AH site but I love these kinds of conspiracies so much. This site seems like a clusterfuck though. I lurked on https://stolenhistory.org There was some drama there with the Admin awhile ago which created a splinter site https://stolenhistory.net
The latter guys are legit and professional.
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Stolen histories is different from alternate history, but it is one of my favorite places to read. I knew a paranoid schizo IRL who posted regularly on the old site, he got me into conspiracy theories even though I don't believe them.
I'm as anti-Zionist as they come and I still believe that Ian's a retard. Anti-Semitism is not exclusive to the right (even if you want to argue about whether the Nazis were socialists, or whether Tlaib's anti-Zionism is anti-Semitic, look up the Doctors' Plot or how the Bund was treated by the Soviets) and Zionism is definitely not an exclusively Prod ideology.
Instead of actually posting about alt-history, Ian seems to get his kicks now-a-days by PLAposting exclusively between banning people for critisizing. I genuinely cannot figure out why he does it anymore, I'm an unironic Israel supporter, but I wouldn't JIDFpost my life away for free.
Because he gets off on the power of being admin, plain and simple.
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It's weird, since Ian strikes me as an old school progressive, the sort of Democrat who routinely fucks up because he's not up to date on the latest progressive lingo and decrees regarding race and gender ideology. His type of progressive isn't the kind which is fanatically anti-Israel which makes his hate boner toward Israel and Zionism kind of strange. My thought has always been that Ian has some weird autism where since Nazism is the ultimate evil, anything connected to the Nazis is also evil. Since Zionism involved/involves ethnic cleansing, Zionism is therefore like Nazism and is therefore evil. You see this too where Ian bans the Moviebob types who want to gulag Trump voters or strip voting rights from rural areas, since that's what the Nazis would do to their political enemies and is therefore evil.
Ian is like Fighteer on TVTropes. At one point probably had a genuine enthusiasm for the website and its subject matter, but now it's a total love-hate relationship with the website where he spends his days arguing with tankies and far-left zoomers about politics and dishing out kicks and bans as a way to reduce his anger levels and fill his power boner.
I read it.
Maybe it's the pro-Palestine side of me talking but I just feel that it was a massive Israel and more generally speaking, Judaism wank.
Mussolini being more pro-Semitic then he was in OTL? Fine, the Fascist Party didn't really give a shit about God's Chosen™ until Kristallnacht, so I could see that happening.
Mussolini buying Jews who were likely to go along with fascism off Hitler and using them to settle Libya? Also fine, the Nazis would have been very happy to get Jews out the country and I'd assume they'd see it as Mussolini just causing himself problems.
Mussolini allowing Libya to have a Jewish population that came close to the Italian population? Yeah, there's no way an authoritarian nationalist regime that was, in theory, Catholic is going to allow an Italian colony to have a large population of people who weren't Italian or Christian.
Mussolini allowing 800,000 Hungarian Jews into Italy who then proceed to defend Slovenia using their special Jewish magic powers? Also no. Not to mention that the Ustaše, who were on the Axis side and would have cared about what was going on in Slovenia, were very anti-Semitic and I doubt that Pavelic and the NDH would have been fine with 800,000 Jews fighting on their border when they were literally gassing Jews at Jasenovac.
(as an aside, the Ustaše were also not so stupid that they would risk WW3 just so that they could kill Serbs. Yes, they were incredibly vicious bastards to any Serbs that found themselves in ”Greater Croatia”, no, this doesn't mean that they would have invaded Serbia for shits and giggles. They literally had a plan for Serbs that involved converting a third to Catholicism, killing a third and deporting the other third to a Serbian rump state. You can't do that if Serbia doesn't exist.)
Britain establishing a Jewish Army and then Israel when the majority of Zionist organisations were supported by Fascist Italy? No. There is no way Britain would let a Zionist government take power in Mandatory Palestine or hand Palestine over to said Zionists when they've made it very clear that they like Italy, a country most Brits then viewed with distaste.
Israel then being supported by Fascist Italy? Fine - as we've seen, in this timeline Mussolini's happy to support the Jews and the Jews are happy to be protected by somebody for a change. There's absolutely no way this wouldn't lead to a fascist government being created in Israel, because Mussolini is not going to let a liberal democracy be established in an Italian client state when he's spent the last twenty years railing against liberal democracy.
Israel then getting all of both Mandatory Palestine and Transjordan? That definitely seems like a stretch given there were about 1000 Jews in Transjordan in 1948, and Britain had always said that there was no way Transjordan would be included in any future Jewish state. Still, given Israel has a great power on its side and absolutely nobody cares about the Palestinians or Jordanians, I'll excuse it.
Michel Aflaq then taking over in Syria? This actually makes sense because Ba'athism is very much anti-imperialist and given that the Arab world (French Algeria, Italian Libya, Palestine and Transjordan) is being colonised on a greater scale than OTL, I can see Ba'athism being incredibly popular.
Aflaq then making Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi and Julius Streicher look like people who put those ”coexist” bumper stickers on their cars? No, no, and no. The Ba'ath party was secular and would not have screwed over the Maronites in the way it did (Aflaq was literally a Christian) nor would it have carried out pogroms across the UAR.
Aflaq then forgetting nuclear weapons exist and then deciding to attack a state protected by nukes without having any nukes? No. Ba'athism may well be an Arab knockoff of fascism, but that doesn't make Ba'athists stupid. Likewise, Aflaq wouldn't have bombed random Jewish settlements instead of targeting the IDF with the few chemical weapons he had.
In short, Israel manages to get support from everyone it meets and somehow manages to be a thriving liberal democracy and a fascist client state at the same time, while any Arabs who come into contact with Israel are made mentally retarded and incapable of putting together any form of military strategy by the simple fact that Israel is a Jewish state.
Mussolini being more pro-Semitic then he was in OTL? Fine, the Fascist Party didn't really give a shit about God's Chosen™ until Kristallnacht, so I could see that happening.
Mussolini buying Jews who were likely to go along with fascism off Hitler and using them to settle Libya? Also fine, the Nazis would have been very happy to get Jews out the country and I'd assume they'd see it as Mussolini just causing himself problems.
Mussolini allowing Libya to have a Jewish population that came close to the Italian population? Yeah, there's no way an authoritarian nationalist regime that was, in theory, Catholic is going to allow an Italian colony to have a large population of people who weren't Italian or Christian.
Mussolini allowing 800,000 Hungarian Jews into Italy who then proceed to defend Slovenia using their special Jewish magic powers? Also no. Not to mention that the Ustaše, who were on the Axis side and would have cared about what was going on in Slovenia, were very anti-Semitic and I doubt that Pavelic and the NDH would have been fine with 800,000 Jews fighting on their border when they were literally gassing Jews at Jasenovac.
(as an aside, the Ustaše were also not so stupid that they would risk WW3 just so that they could kill Serbs. Yes, they were incredibly vicious bastards to any Serbs that found themselves in ”Greater Croatia”, no, this doesn't mean that they would have invaded Serbia for shits and giggles. They literally had a plan for Serbs that involved converting a third to Catholicism, killing a third and deporting the other third to a Serbian rump state. You can't do that if Serbia doesn't exist.)
Britain establishing a Jewish Army and then Israel when the majority of Zionist organisations were supported by Fascist Italy? No. There is no way Britain would let a Zionist government take power in Mandatory Palestine or hand Palestine over to said Zionists when they've made it very clear that they like Italy, a country most Brits then viewed with distaste.
Israel then being supported by Fascist Italy? Fine - as we've seen, in this timeline Mussolini's happy to support the Jews and the Jews are happy to be protected by somebody for a change. There's absolutely no way this wouldn't lead to a fascist government being created in Israel, because Mussolini is not going to let a liberal democracy be established in an Italian client state when he's spent the last twenty years railing against liberal democracy.
Israel then getting all of both Mandatory Palestine and Transjordan? That definitely seems like a stretch given there were about 1000 Jews in Transjordan in 1948, and Britain had always said that there was no way Transjordan would be included in any future Jewish state. Still, given Israel has a great power on its side and absolutely nobody cares about the Palestinians or Jordanians, I'll excuse it.
Michel Aflaq then taking over in Syria? This actually makes sense because Ba'athism is very much anti-imperialist and given that the Arab world (French Algeria, Italian Libya, Palestine and Transjordan) is being colonised on a greater scale than OTL, I can see Ba'athism being incredibly popular.
Aflaq then making Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi and Julius Streicher look like people who put those ”coexist” bumper stickers on their cars? No, no, and no. The Ba'ath party was secular and would not have screwed over the Maronites in the way it did (Aflaq was literally a Christian) nor would it have carried out pogroms across the UAR.
Aflaq then forgetting nuclear weapons exist and then deciding to attack a state protected by nukes without having any nukes? No. Ba'athism may well be an Arab knockoff of fascism, but that doesn't make Ba'athists stupid. Likewise, Aflaq wouldn't have bombed random Jewish settlements instead of targeting the IDF with the few chemical weapons he had.
In short, Israel manages to get support from everyone it meets and somehow manages to be a thriving liberal democracy and a fascist client state at the same time, while any Arabs who come into contact with Israel are made mentally retarded and incapable of putting together any form of military strategy by the simple fact that Israel is a Jewish state.
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