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Bastard_Call

Amateur rapist
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It's not even a question of art or some cottage industry. There are entire flourishing industries today that were not just dead as recently as the early 2000s but almost entirely forgotten.

This shit isn't even countenancing entire huge portions of the service industry where a human touch and conversation are considered to be part of the experience that people will pay premiums and tip for.

I guess I'm saying we've already seen a quite substantial reaction in the opposite direction of automation from people wanting hand crafted whatever yadda yadda I only see this trend continuing as automation proliferates.
There's the rub, its all premium. Quality, non-automated services and products are basically only afforded to the middle class and up, both because the people such things appeal to are wealthy douchebags and because money has depreciated in value so much that the only way to break-even is to produce things for pennies.

Do you want decent non-chain coffee? Well so do all these hipsters and they're willing to pay $15 for it. Do you want clothes that aren't trash? Then you better be prepared to blow a substantial portion of your paycheck on them. They're often designed around fashion trends which will have disappeared in a few months, so the benefit of having clothes which last is quickly made moot.

Then you have to worry about items and services with a premium price-tag and deceptive marketing strategies that make them appear handmade when they're really repackaged from the production-line. Ever heard of the brand Made in Italy?
 

Crystal Golem

Just trying it once I swearzies
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Well so do all these hipsters and they're willing to pay $15 for it.
And yet decently priced non-chain coffee still exists. Just don't go to the hipster coffee bar. Massive hyperbole BTW.
both because the people such things appeal to are wealthy douchebags
Yeah anyone who owns anything not made in China is just richy rich flaunting that daddy money.
They're often designed around fashion trends which will have disappeared in a few months
You don't have to worry about this bullshit when you dress like an adult.
There's the rub, its all premium. Quality, non-automated services and products are basically only afforded to the middle class and up
WTF are you talking about. Are you seriously telling me that poor people don't pay for premium goods in 2021? You don't know any poor people do you?
Then you have to worry about items and services with a premium price-tag and deceptive marketing strategies that make them appear handmade when they're really repackaged from the production-line. Ever heard of the brand Made in Italy?
Is there any type of product where deceptive marketing isn't a problem? Are we supposed to feel bad for uninformed consumers now?
 

Reesonsparadise

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You say that like we haven't seen an explosion in boutique/handcrafted/farm-to-table bullshit over the past twenty years.

Are we supposed to believe that everyone is just going to go "cool all my shit is made by a robot now" and not seek out the prestige of handcrafted goods and services?
The thing is that we already are ok with it. The practical reality is that for any product to be made for any amount of mass-market you need automation. Do you drive a car? Do you use electronics? These all are manufactured, these all are built by automation. And the problem is it keeps getting better. I work car manufacturing, first in the line, and then management. In one of my zones there was a section that built and attached doors. It used to be one person a door. Then a machine was made that cut that down to 2 people. Now no one does that part, because a newer machine was made. That is 4 jobs becoming none in just a decade, and that was just one part of a multi-mile long line that is always being optimized.

The practical reality is that there are people who really can't do much more than physical labor. About ten percent of the American population is in manufacturing. It was a good way for hard working people to make a reasonable amount of money, and when that goes away their quality of life drops when they have to take much lower paying jobs. A lot of people say the answer is that we train them in maintenance, but I promise you this is a fantasy. In my entire line we have two maintenance technicians a shift. That's four people total. We don't need any more, because with just that many our longest downtime is about 5 minutes.

I don't know the solution, but I'm not gonna act like it isn't a problem because of that.

All of this is incredibly off topic though. It was better after her nudes were leaked, and back then every post was hornyposting. Is there any more info on that thing pregory was tweeting about?
 

Bastard_Call

Amateur rapist
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You don't have to worry about this bullshit when you dress like an adult.
Really? Where do you buy your clothes then? Because literally every clothes store I've ever step foot in has either been fast-fashion trash, marginally above fast-fashion trash in quality but considerably above it in price or precisely what I described. Or do you expect people to dress like reviewbrah everywhere they go?
WTF are you talking about. Are you seriously telling me that poor people don't pay for premium goods in 2021? You don't know any poor people do you?
I am a poor person. My dad constantly buys premium goods and complains that he never has any money. He buys the expensive microwave meals so he can feel slightly less pathetic and he's in constant debt. Nobody in my family owns property, they all live in an estate where they constantly pay rent and it's in-part due to paying for ridiculously priced food and clothes too often. Poor people buy that shit almost as much as middle class people, like it's hard-wired into them to appear richer than they are. But being able to buy something is not the same as being able to afford it and it effects their finances majorly.
Yeah anyone who owns anything not made in China is just richy rich flaunting that daddy money.
You know that's not what I mean. If the primary market is wealthy hipsters, and lets be honest anything that can be described as hand-made appeals primarily to them, then the prices will reflect that.
Is there any type of product where deceptive marketing isn't a problem? Are we supposed to feel bad for uninformed consumers now?
Believe it or not, stupid consumers don't just hurt themselves. Their bad habits also influence the options available to everyone. Did you know that certain products are drastically less likely to sell with a lower price tag, because people assume a lower price means lower quality regardless if that's really the case? Therefore, retailers will have to mark up the price if they want to shift units. And they won't make special exceptions to people who are aware of this, so enlightened consumers such as yourself are left with your dick in your hand.

And no, there will never be a point where the majority of consumers are wise enough to see through these things. I think you'd agree that the majority of people will always be idiots, no matter what. Wouldn't it be easier to prevent marketers from muddying the water to begin with?
 

Crystal Golem

Just trying it once I swearzies
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I am a poor person. My dad constantly buys premium goods and complains that he never has any money. He buys the expensive microwave meals so he can feel slightly less pathetic and he's in constant debt. Nobody in my family owns property, they all live in an estate where they constantly pay rent and it's in-part due to paying for ridiculously priced food and clothes too often. Poor people buy that shit almost as much as middle class people, like it's hard-wired into them to appear richer than they are. But being able to buy something is not the same as being able to afford it and it effects their finances majorly.
Your family's problem is that they have no impulse control or ability to budget and that would be a problem no matter what regulations were put in place.
Or do you expect people to dress like reviewbrah everywhere they go?
God forbid people dress like grown-ups and not chav trash.
and lets be honest anything that can be described as hand-made appeals primarily to them, then the prices will reflect that.
Your conception of the handmade market is incredibly narrow. I'm not sure that hipsters are in the market for custom handforged roofing hatchets but those exist.
 

The soyalorian

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Shill: I'm doing a stream about June on the 22nd to celebrate her 30th birthday.

Oh boy, I just can't wait.
 

Tasty Tatty

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Shill: I'm doing a stream about June on the 22nd to celebrate her 30th birthday.

What are you getting her for her birthday? Chains? A new bunny? Another wig? A marriage proposal?
 

The Demon Baby

Where's my fucking child support, dad?
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Shill: I'm doing a stream about June on the 22nd to celebrate her 30th birthday.

Can you title it, "June Lapine Officially Hits The Wall: A Celebration"?????
 

WeWuzFinns

Armed with the cap of flame and goggles of speed.
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Josh already asserted his dominance over Shrek by using his site to smear him. The competition has been driven out. I bet June loves a man who takes charge like that.
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Hangula Hungui

Please don’t push me, mummy packed me yoghurt
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Shill: I'm doing a stream about June on the 22nd to celebrate her 30th birthday.

Am I remembering it wrong or didn’t Shoe make this cringe „alpha bitch“ song? Would be perfect for the intro imo
 

CECA Loather

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Shill: I'm doing a stream about June on the 22nd to celebrate her 30th birthday.

I get the feeling that like how my guntmaster's favourite month of the year is May, Null's favourite month of the year must be June.
 
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