Shots fired, multiple injured in Thousand Oaks, California -

WHO DUN IT?

  • The huwh*te man

    Votes: 95 24.9%
  • Incels

    Votes: 114 29.9%
  • Muslims

    Votes: 70 18.4%
  • Latinos

    Votes: 17 4.5%
  • BLACKS

    Votes: 19 5.0%
  • Pennsylvania Rabbi getting revenge

    Votes: 66 17.3%

  • Total voters
    381

Bunny Tracks

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The problem with mental illness is that it only comes up with tragedies like this happen, and it's only used to counter the topic of gun control. It doesn't matter if Jack gouges holes in his skin trying dig out what he believes are government spying equipment hiding in it, or if Abbey is now homeless and wanders the streets in the middle of the night terrified, freezing and miserable because she couldn't hold down a job due to her crippling PTSD. No, their suffering, their mental illness, it only matters if it causes them to hurt other people. And even then it's just used as a talking point.

The main issue I see with all these shootings is that we just keep trying to find one solution, one reason behind it. That it's either gun control, or mental illness, or the media- why can't it be all of it? Think about it. A man suffers from an undiagnosed, untreated mental disorder that leaves him with awful self-esteem and violent thoughts. He tries to get help, but is either denied, or doesn't have access to proper care. So instead he just stews in his self-loathing and misanthropy until it festers to the point where he can't take it anymore. He's sick and tired of no one listening to him. He wants to be heard, he wants someone to pay attention to his suffering, and he'll get that even if he has to hurt others in the process.

So he goes down to his local pawn shop or gun store is able to purchase a gun because no one bothers following the law and doing a background check on him which would have shown that he had several arrest records, and prior instances of violence and isn't allowed to own a firearm. Now he has a weapon and a couple days later he opens fire at a school, or a bar, or a shopping center and ends up killing several people and injuring many others. He's now famous with his face and name plastered all over the media while every talks how something like this could happen and before a week has even passed, the same thing has happened all over again.
 
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heathercho

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To be fair when I wrote this at the time I was wondering if there was some connection to the hostess who was shot or it connected to a motive.



It's even sillier to me considering that California is strict on gun laws, but they're all ignoring that information.

Twitter of course is talking about the important information right now.
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I don't know if I'm buying this story because the narrative has changed, but so what? Niggas kill more people than anything. But you can't talk about that because that's racist. 13 people sadly is a spit in the ocean compared to what happens in the black community.
 

Oscar Wildean

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I don't know if I'm buying this story because the narrative has changed, but so what? Niggas kill more people than anything. But you can't talk about that because that's racist. 13 people sadly is a spit in the ocean compared to what happens in the black community.
If I search that man's name all I get are weirdos on Twitter going "haha, you all said the man was Muslim (because witnesses said they thought he was) but he's white!" What the hell.
 

ColtWalker1847

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So he goes down to his local pawn shop or gun store is able to purchase a gun because no one bothers following the law and doing a background check on him which would have shown that he had several arrest records, and prior instances of violence and isn't allowed to own a firearm.
aaaaaaaand ya lost me. You were doing so well too.

Do you know how FFL transfers even work? There isn't a gun or pawn around that doesn't put every buyer through the process. They make money on it!
 

TowinKarz

Actually WILL Call Somebody.....
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So he goes down to his local pawn shop or gun store is able to purchase a gun because no one bothers following the law and doing a background check on him which would have shown that he had several arrest records, and prior instances of violence and isn't allowed to own a firearm. Now he has a weapon and a couple days later he opens fire at a school, or a bar, or a shopping center and ends up killing several people and injuring many others. He's now famous with his face and name plastered all over the media while every talks how something like this could happen and before a week has even passed, the same thing has happened all over again.
$500, from my own wallet, right now, if you can go down to the local gun store and buy one WITHOUT getting a background check done..... because "nobody follows any rules" apparently. I'll wait.

Or will they obviously check you because you look sane and for some strange reason they only want to let the visibly insane who bark at the moon purchase, because that surely won't get THEM in any trouble..... legal, moral or business-wise when they look up the history of where Mr Whacky bought that gun?
 

heathercho

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If I search that man's name all I get are weirdos on Twitter going "haha, you all said the man was Muslim (because witnesses said they thought he was) but he's white!" What the hell.
There's a lot of "coincidences" that seem to pop up in some of these stories. Not all, of course, just the ones that become big media plays.
Things like number of shooters, ethnicity of shooter, timing of things, who the victims are, what their connections are, social media being wiped/changed.
Yeah, sometimes the media, witnesses and police get things "wrong", but I guess I'm just too jaded from working in the media my entire adult life to see things be as simple as that anymore.

Like with Parkland... who would have thought that a shooting would just happen at a high school with so many kids tied to the FBI?

I'm certainly not saying it's a case of no-one dying in these events, just that the data that comes out after the events is completely skewed by political motivation and those funny "coincidences".

If you look at events the media doesn't blow up into big stories, you find more organic, correct facts.
The information goes through the same process, but there just is less "He's middle eastern, oh now he's WHITE" information swapping.
It's not the event I don't trust, it's the chain of information that is dubious.
 

Jesus

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This was just posted on the r/news thread. Briefly scrolled through his profile, his account is 5+ years old and he has posted in the past about serving in Afghanistan.
If he's telling the truth it's pretty interesting and also I'd like to know more about this underwear story.
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wes

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Not everyone has a chemical imbalance, yet most kids these days get pills shoved down their throats. That's not okay.
Depression is a serious issue, and medication is something that can help, but it's important that you need to be depressed in the first place. Current Year "depression" might as well encompass symptoms like getting made fun of for saying something stupid in 9th grade homeroom, with both peers and professionals enforcing the idea that no, you really are special, you have a severely disruptive disorder with little precursor of any indication of having a mental illness previously. The normal person going through a rough patch in life shouldn't be diagnosed with depression, because depression is a clinical issue that requires treatment, most importantly therapy. Feeling like crap after a shitty breakup shouldn't isn't something SSRIs can fix, and will often make things worse. The same can be said of stimulants prescribed for patients with attention disorders like ADHD and ADD, which get abused at colleges to cram for tests or finish a paper after procrastinating to the last second. You'd think everyone would benefit from more energy and increased concentration, but normal brains don't need that. The adage of "if it ain't broke, don't fix it" has been lost in time, because anyone can claim any disorder for whatever purposes they want, and it muddies the waters for people who receive an actual depression diagnosis, but can't take it seriously when it's considered such a base mental illness. I particularly remember a point on Tumblr where people were claiming that only having unipolar depression (not bipolar) gave them privilege in the mental health division of the Oppresion Olympics.

Intervention is important in mental illnesses, but with everyone claiming that they have this or that disorder, psychiatrists and other medical practitioners toss meds at people (usually Prozac or another SSRI) out of fear from public pressure. Medication is very helpful in treating mental health issues, but it has to be the right type, dosage, and accompanied by therapy. But people don't want to deal with that annoying shit, so they pop 40mg of Prozac a day and claim that they're totally depressed. Anti-psychotics in particular are dangerous, because if prescribed to the wrong person, it can be disastrous. They can end up invoking manic episodes or triggering behaviors that will domino effect into making the person feel worse. But nobody has a concrete idea of what depression is anymore, because its definition is being stretched to its limit.

Imagine if you rushed into the ER begging for penicillin because you've been having a runny nose for a couple days. That's the issue more than anything

And people like Talcum X don't react with "weird glee" when the shooter is a white man?
I've seen way too many "woke" people literally showboating that the shooter wasn't Middle-Eastern and they can add another name to the "Wypipo R Terrorists 2" chart. They care more about rubbing it in the faces of so-called "racists" than they do about the people who were killed. I'd hate to be a loved one of any of the victims and watching some basketball African-American use your friend/family member's death as a way to posture on people who were only going by reports

At least whitey isn't throwing fags off buildings daily or stoning women for having more than just their eyes visible:hillary:
 

repentance

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This was just posted on the r/news thread. Briefly scrolled through his profile, his account is 5+ years old and he has posted in the past about serving in Afghanistan.
If he's telling the truth it's pretty interesting and also I'd like to know more about this underwear story.
I really hope that one of the media ghouls looking for a new angle on the story follows this up.
 

repentance

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The normal person going through a rough patch in life shouldn't be diagnosed with depression, because depression is a clinical issue that requires treatment, most importantly therapy. Feeling like crap after a shitty breakup shouldn't isn't something SSRIs can fix, and will often make things worse. The same can be said of stimulants prescribed for patients with attention disorders like ADHD and ADD, which get abused at colleges to cram for tests or finish a paper after procrastinating to the last second. You'd think everyone would benefit from more energy and increased concentration, but normal brains don't need that. The adage of "if it ain't broke, don't fix it" has been lost in time, because anyone can claim any disorder for whatever purposes they want, and it muddies the waters for people who receive an actual depression diagnosis, but can't take it seriously when it's considered such a base mental illness. I particularly remember a point on Tumblr where people were claiming that only having unipolar depression (not bipolar) gave them privilege in the mental health division of the Oppresion Olympics.
It's a bit more complicated than that because the definitions of what's "normal" have changed, sometimes dramatically, over time. It used to be regarded as "normal" to take a couple of years to get over a major loss, but now reactive depression which lasts longer than 6 months is often seen by mental health professionals as some kind of pathology in need of treatment.

While you're correct that a lot of people seem to seek a diagnosis so they can use it as an excuse for the shortcomings in their life, that hasn't happened in a vacuum and the mental health industry itself has played a major part in encouraging the belief that anything less than being totally content all of the time requires treatment of some kind. Unfortunately, this only further exacerbates the problem of learned helplessness and lack of resilience.
 
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