Should immigrants of any kind be made to speak English? - Or should we clean out the Mexicotowns first?

[Iwasamwillbe]

I am a native-born Californian, who often takes walks around Los Angeles County, where I live.

More times than I could count during these walks, I come across people of clearly Hispanic or Latin American ethic grouping who cannot even speak English, but only Spanish.

I have also noticed that in the several areas I have been in that are Hispanic (I refer to them as "Mexicotowns"), there are at least one or two stores that fly the Mexican flag. Such stores almost certainly contain illegal immigrants, and I believe that I should have notified ICE about them. These Mexicotowns also happen to be some of the dirtiest, dumpiest, and dingiest places in the state, being just above ghettos in quality (I once saw a huge pile of dog shit that just sat in the street in a Mexicotown; it disgusted me to no end).

A memorable event happened when I asked for something in a Mexicotown, but the store's owner didn't speak English, so she had to get her daughter to be an interpreter for her. Right then and there is when it truly stuck for me how bad the problems California had with illegal immigration, because no legal immigrant comes into America long enough to open a store and yet not speak English.

I believe that the lack of a common language between these Mexicotowns and the rest of America contributes in many ways to the poor state of these areas, and all effort should be made to enforce the teaching of English in those areas.

However, there is also the problem of all the illegal immigrants in those Mexicotowns that have to be deported. ICE would have to do massive raids, and California state legislators would likely make attempts to block them.

So the question is, should we enforce English first, or should we do the mass deportations first, or should we do both simultaneously?

Either way, we should expect much caterwauling from people disproportionately sympathetic to the "plight" of illegal immigrants.

 

[BingBong]

Yes, of course.

Integralist-chan is best.

 

[Thumb Butler]

Do you really think the ICE doesn't already know about the ghettos with illegals? Problems is, they are too busy harassing transgender people who steal money from charities.

 

[break these cuffs]

So the question is, should we enforce English first, or should we do the mass deportations first, or should we do both simultaneously?

Neither of these will ever happen no matter who is president because cheap labor and a disenfranchised population who is easy to control is the name of the game.

 

[HeyYou]

Yes, a country should have one language used in official business. It doesn't have to be enforced at all times, especially in private, but there shouldn't be a hodgepodge of languages making things into a clusterfuck. The language taught in schools should be that language, and anyone suggesting that we should be allowing students to take classes in a foreign language should be laughed at and ostracized, especially in regards to those Chinese funded schools and programs. I would start with teaching English first, because many of those kids are citizens, whether we like it or not.

 

[ConfederateIrishman]

Too late now.

 

[Recoil]

Immigrants should be speaking english, but that's not gonna happen because corporations got a hold of the issue before anyone else did and started putting "Prime numero dos para espanol" in the phone menus and "información nutricional" on the packaging, effectively pre-empting any such initiative before English even had a chance.

Of course, they were doing so to capture a market, but the point stands.

 

[No Exit]

So the question is, should we enforce English first, or should we do the mass deportations first, or should we do both simultaneously?

Neither one would work now but a some sneaky propaganda could work if you did both at the same time, at least for the Mexicans.

You'd want to have ICE start heavily cracking down on all immigrants, especially those that speak Spanish. Like @Recoil brought up about having Spanish written on everything, that would have to be stopped. Speaking Spanish would have to be seen as negative by all of society so the Mexicans would want to speak English as well as possible, just to try and not stand out.
The largest issue with this is that it basically becomes a racial divide thing, which is impossible to try and do in current year +4.

 

[Rand /pol/]

Everyone should speak English regardless of nationality.

 

[REGENDarySumanai]

English is the international language of business and not learning English means that you will basically shut yourself out to huge swaths of the world's population. It also has other repercussions such as not being able to browse slightly over half of the Internet, due to the fact that 52% of the Internet's content is in English. Also, forcing people to speak English in America spits in the face of America not having an official national language.

 

[A Welsh Cake]

English should be learned, not because it's English but because it is THE international language. If it were Chinese, Spanish, Italian or German (not French though) I would argue the same for those languages.
This is ignoring the idea of not speaking English in America. I wouldn't dream of emigrating to another country without learning the language to a somewhat competent degree; I'd be attending language classes after work.

 

[LazyLizard]

kick out all the mexicans then invade mexico and force them to adopt english as it's official language

 

[Stranger Neighbors]

Ideally people should speak English to the level of some competency, but I agree with @ConfederateIrishman s late rating because the time for that (and some other coastal places like Florida) is over, sanctuary cities Lowering any semblance of standards, it's 100% over, start investing in your Rosetta Stone Spanish now faggots

all I have to say is:
Muy Malos

 

[Franjevina]

No .

Because immigrants of any kind shouldn't be allowed in first place .

 

[murgatroid]

In Miami it's almost a requirement you have to speak spanish for a job.

 

[NOT Sword Fighter Super]

At my old retail job we had a 24/7 telephone line we could call where they would be able to translate nearly any language for foreign customers.

In the 14 years I was there, I don't recall it being used once.

 

[HeyYou]

Also, forcing people to speak English in America spits in the face of America not having an official national language.

The US wouldn't be able to operate without a language that everyone speaks in the public sector. And since the founder's time, education has been consolidated in the public sphere, and curriculums are often standardized. What language do they teach in that standardized curriculum? The language the country was founded with and the Constitution was written in.

 

[ConfederateIrishman]

The US wouldn't be able to operate without a language that everyone speaks in the public sector. And since the founder's time, education has been consolidated in the public sphere, and curriculums are often standardized. What language do they teach in that standardized curriculum? The language the country was founded with and the Constitution was written in.

America really should have had a national language tbh; French as a secondary language in Louisiana for its French colonial roots.

 

[HeyYou]

America really should have had a national language tbh; French as a secondary language in Louisiana for its French colonial roots.

Thirty one states, including California, have already declared English their official language. When the House tried to do it in the mid-2000s people whined and complained and nothing got done. On a related note, Louisiana is one of those states, and French is also acknowledged.

 

[heyilikeyourmom]

No, America is comprised of immigrants and english isn’t even this region’s original native tongue. Nobody should be forced to assimilate beyond obeying US law and whatever they need to learn to work and eat and shop. Our differences are what make life interesting.