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nah nobody just draws or saves loli art there's always diddling involved
No porn yet you browse this site, which has nudes (of cows), porn comics (made by cows), and overall degeneracy?Porn itself should already be banned and the production thereof prosecuted by anti-obscenity laws. Children, adults, animals—the content of pornography does not matter. Pornography itself is a grave sin and a cancer to society.
Paying lip service to the immorality of child pornography is just a pathetic way for people that masturbate to virtue signal. The topic of child porn is just a scapegoat for self-loathing perverts to attempt to excuse their own sins. Do not fall into this stupid trap. Understand the base premise of pornography.
I’m not arguing the legality of it. I’m a dirty leaf, I know it’s illegal.Except we have studies that prove otherwise.
https://www.ncjrs.gov/App/Publications/abstract.aspx?ID=248706
And not to mention the fact we feel an emotional connection to cartoon characters in movies etc. because they represent real people.
There's a reason we actually enjoy and make cartoons you know?
Also, loli IS actually illegal in a lot of countries, this includes many US states, Australia, England, Canada.
Most of the English speaking world, really.
So "It's not illegal because it's not bad" is not really an argument.
I'd like to add that I'm playing devil's advocate, I am ever so slightly on the side of allowing CP.
i bet five bucks this nigga is a pedoI’m not arguing the legality of it. I’m a dirty leaf, I know it’s illegal.
I’m arguing the morality of it. The fact is the art itself is a victimless crime. There are no children hurt anywhere along the line of production. The same can’t be said about real CP. the fact that there’s a victim is what makes CP illegal.
Now obviously there are exceptions to this rule. A lot of people would argue that the Tracy Lords incident had no victims but the fact is it still fell on the wrong side of the law. The law was written that way to protect victims and making any exception could lead to the victimization of more people. I feel this same thing is happening with the loli/shota right now. It’s an older written rule that can’t be bent. All digital representations of children in a sexual situation have to be dealt with or there could be some perceived implications that would lead to a work around.
Lets say they let people away with an image of a highly detailed Loli in a western artstyle. The way the law is written now this could lead to the implication that distribution of actual CP is alright if you add a couple photoshop filters to it.
Read the study I linked earlier.I’m arguing the morality of it. The fact is the art itself is a victimless crime.
I don’t disagree that there some mentally unstable people who will be pushed to act because of their exposure to loli/shota. The problem is violent people in the past have been pushed to act by other mediums of entertainment like movies, music and video games . That doesn’t mean there should be a blanket ban on them or even that they’re inherently immoral.Read the study I linked earlier.
There is a good group of people who are mentally unstable and do end up increasing their involvement with the fetish/fetish community.
This increases the amount of time they spend thinking about that stuff and desiring it, which in turn makes them more likely to become sex offenders.
Think about it like this: If not for sites like KF or any lolcow discussion boards/communities, would most of us REALLY spend all that much time reading about lolcows, collecting their info, interacting with them?
CP might move a mentally ill person to action in the same way.
LOLI IS NOT CPLOLI IS CHILD PORNOGRAPHY
"These findings challenge the frequent assertion that child-pornography offenders are “only” involved with “pictures,” such that they pose no significant risk of direct commission of a sexual offense against a child. The findings indicate the importance of online criminal investigations that target so-called “Internet sex offenders,” since such investigations are likely to result in the apprehension of child molesters. Although these men may attribute their search for child pornography to “curiosity” or a similar unthreatening motivation, the findings of the current study suggest the likelihood that they have also engaged in the sexual abuse of children."
https://www.ncjrs.gov/App/Publications/abstract.aspx?ID=248706
You're whipping out the fallacies today buddy.
I never said that everyone follows their sexual fantasies to a T, you claim I do (strawman).
What I did say is that your sex life is influenced by your sexual fantasies, are you claiming they're always 100% seperate in every case?
You're right, and that's true.I don’t disagree that there some mentally unstable people who will be pushed to act because of their exposure to loli/shota. The problem is violent people in the past have been pushed to act by other mediums of entertainment like movies, music and video games . That doesn’t mean there should be a blanket ban on them or even that they’re inherently immoral.
Sadly you're never going to be able to discuss this topic without people turning on you, people are very explosive and angry about anything related to opinions about CP, be they positive or negative.Now let me put this out here now because this thread is starting to turn against me.
I AM NOT ADVOCATING THE “THE PEDOPHILE WHO HASN’T DONE ANYTHING IS A GOOD PEDOPHILE” MEME. I’M FIRMLY IN THE SIDE OF 2D DOES NOT = 3D SIDE OF THINGS. I’M JUST ARGUING THE MORALITY OF THIS.
This is a terrible slippery slope. Lets break down one of those mediums I mentioned above.You're right, and that's true.
However, I do feel like those media have artistic value or cultural meaning, while cp is just4faps, no matter how you slice it.
How bad is loli/shota really?
I myself am quite divided on the topic.
How can a 8 year old be attractive.I'm fine with it if it's well drawn. I hate when someone draws a pic of an attractive eight year old but she has DD tits it's like wtf
Wordfilters are aids and retarded.we need a loli -> CP wordfilter stat