Should lolicon / shotacon be considered drawn child pornography?

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Is OP a pedophile?

  • yes

    Votes: 828 75.0%
  • no

    Votes: 170 15.4%
  • it should be regulated, not outright banned

    Votes: 106 9.6%

  • Total voters
    1,104

SwanDive

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Yes, beating off to drawn pictures of children is fucked up.

Pro tip: If you do, don't fucking tell people. Keep your shit to yourself and don't fuck any actual kids. Your sexual deviances are of little concern to me until you try to wear them like a badge of honor.
 
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AnOminous

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I'm getting flashbacks to the "are traps gay?" argument where incredibly gay men argue about how not gay they are.

But there's nothing all that wrong about being gay or even being gay but in denial.

Being OP, tho, on this thread, should be a cause for seppuku.

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Apteryx Owenii

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Legally I don't like things prohibited unless there's a victim (i.e. representation of a real child). So there's that.

Seems like anyone getting off to any of that is pretty fucked up but as long as they're not hurting anyone I don't really give a shit. I wonder if people who are into it are more likely to act on it IRL or if they also tend to go for 'real' CP. I mean, do people that beat it to MLP also watch horse-fucking? I suggest we never try and find out the answer.

I'd be interested to know your thoughts, because it keeps me up at night whether I should support the censorship of drawn CP vs. the acceptance of it.

I'm not sure if you're joking or if this is actually something you think about on a nightly basis.
 

Kari Kamiya

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Weebs need to be told by their Chinese cartoons what they're doing is bad.

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ISP

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Contemporary pedohaters are by and large Moderns who swallowed the cultural Marxist pill without question and have been doing so since birth. These are really just people who blindly accept what I see to be the axioms of modern anti-pedoism; pedohebesexuality is necessarily centered on violence (hence the oft-repeated and patently absurd anti-pedoist motto that 'only adults can consent'), pedohebesexuality/pedoheberomance is abnormal (the coinage of the word 'pedophile' is a reflection of this; by reduction to *philos* contra *eros* the phenomenon is trivialised, rendered fetishistic, demeaned, pathologised, *etc.* (similar to the historically Marxist pathologisation implicit in the inception of the word 'racist')), *etc.* The campaign against what is know called 'pedophilia' has its roots in the Marxist-feminist campaign against man-girl relationships (as natural tokens of dominant patriarchal heterosexual institutions, whose very existence challenged and will always challenge cultural-Marxist progressivism) which saw a benchmark in the raising (close to doubling, in some instances) of the Age of Consent in the West. It was not your stereotypical Christian social conservatives responsible, but the progressives, for they have nothing to gain and plenty to lose from the continued existence of the traditional and naturally stable marriages which organically result (and historically resulted) from pedoheberomantic relationships.

The same Jewish revolutionary spirit which brought us degenerative cultural subversion in the West, made anti-nativist open-border policy fashionable and gave social and legal rights to all manner of abnormal, unnatural LGBTQ+ individuals and unions suppressed the most obvious token of traditional heterosexual romance. To reject Modernity is to reject anti-pedoist hysteria and to call it what it is, as we do with globalist immigration efforts and atheistic cultural subversion.
 

Oglooger

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How bad is loli/shota really?
I myself am quite divided on the topic.

Firstly, I do recognize that any erotic material pertaining to children is bad because it proliferates the fantasies of sexually abusing children, causing pedophiles to be more likely to do it when they lose control.
But I also recognize that a lot of people enjoy loli and shota without being pedo irl nessecarily, so it's also a difficult question of perspective.

The law hasn't really ventured here, and most if not all discussion of the subject is just autistic whining about "it isn't real so it isn't real, i'm not hurting childs (yet)" vs. "bro ur just a pedo u filthy fucking pedos need to be shot".

I'd be interested to know your thoughts, because it keeps me up at night whether I should support the censorship of drawn CP vs. the acceptance of it.

you tell me
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is this child porn?
 
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sideofthematress

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The problem I have for it is that if loli and shota is brought in like any other erotic genre it puts children at risk cause is perpetuates the idea that children are sexual beings and if a pedophile sees this you bet there sweet bippy they are gonna use it to groom children. There have even been proof in Japan that loli and shota is being used by pedophiles to groom children anyway. So really you can't win with it. Never give put gas to the flame. I always say. Plus why cater to this taste in wanting to fuck kids anyway? If you like the idea of cute flat chested women fine that is just having a taste in body type but if you want these women to be outright children and be presented as such than you are bordering on not only criminal mentality but out right sexualizing children in general. You just don't present pedophilia as a normal fantasy meant to be romanticized you show it for what it is which is a crime. Children is not a sexual fantasy in anyway shape or form. PERIOD!
 

HenryKissiger

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Contemporary pedohaters are by and large Moderns who swallowed the cultural Marxist pill without question and have been doing so since birth. These are really just people who blindly accept what I see to be the axioms of modern anti-pedoism; pedohebesexuality is necessarily centered on violence (hence the oft-repeated and patently absurd anti-pedoist motto that 'only adults can consent'), pedohebesexuality/pedoheberomance is abnormal (the coinage of the word 'pedophile' is a reflection of this; by reduction to *philos* contra *eros* the phenomenon is trivialised, rendered fetishistic, demeaned, pathologised, *etc.* (similar to the historically Marxist pathologisation implicit in the inception of the word 'racist')), *etc.* The campaign against what is know called 'pedophilia' has its roots in the Marxist-feminist campaign against man-girl relationships (as natural tokens of dominant patriarchal heterosexual institutions, whose very existence challenged and will always challenge cultural-Marxist progressivism) which saw a benchmark in the raising (close to doubling, in some instances) of the Age of Consent in the West. It was not your stereotypical Christian social conservatives responsible, but the progressives, for they have nothing to gain and plenty to lose from the continued existence of the traditional and naturally stable marriages which organically result (and historically resulted) from pedoheberomantic relationships.

The same Jewish revolutionary spirit which brought us degenerative cultural subversion in the West, made anti-nativist open-border policy fashionable and gave social and legal rights to all manner of abnormal, unnatural LGBTQ+ individuals and unions suppressed the most obvious token of traditional heterosexual romance. To reject Modernity is to reject anti-pedoist hysteria and to call it what it is, as we do with globalist immigration efforts and atheistic cultural subversion.
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