Snowpocalypse 2021 -

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Microlab

Chihuahuas are a figment of your imagination
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Nigger, these people never saw this shit coming for their entire lives. Imagine spending 20 years in a place and the weather completely changes from the entire status quo. You dont have ice tires on your truck, a backup furnace or a giant shovel when you live there your whole life if you've only seen enough snow for frosty on a tv.
How does this--or similar points--excuse the average Texan evidently not having a single external powersource in the event of an outage? How does it excuse Texans literally not comprehending how to preserve body heat? How does it excuse Texans not understanding burning coal inside is a bad idea?

This shit isn't even "hyper-specific disaster management", it's basic consideration. Questions like "What if the power goes out, and my perishable food is lost?" and "What if I'm cold/hot, and have no external heat/cooling to rely on?" and "What would I do about water if it shuts down somehow?" are the simplest things a modern human being could be concerned about.
If you're not prepared for those extremely simple problems, regardless of if they're caused by a blizzard or fucking Godzilla crashing into your city's powerplant, it means you're stupid and cocky enough to deserve whatever happens to you.
 

Shadfan666xxx000

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How does this--or similar points--excuse the average Texan evidently not having a single external powersource in the event of an outage? How does it excuse Texans literally not comprehending how to preserve body heat? How does it excuse Texans not understanding burning coal inside is a bad idea?

This shit isn't even "hyper-specific disaster management", it's basic consideration. Questions like "What if the power goes out, and my perishable food is lost?" and "What if I'm cold/hot, and have no external heat/cooling to rely on?" and "What would I do about water if it shuts down somehow?" are the simplest things a modern human being could be concerned about.
If you're not prepared for those extremely simple problems, regardless of if they're caused by a blizzard or fucking Godzilla crashing into your city's powerplant, it means you're stupid and cocky enough to deserve whatever happens to you.
Expecting one of the richest sections of the 1st world to keep operating its power grid as it has done so for a century is not blind hubris and having it knocked out by an outside threat is going to present challenges nobody accounted for and when someone is expected to do something they weren't taught beforehand out of the blue, they'll do something stupid as a rule, not because of stupidity or laziness but out of simple ignorance. Nobody in these regions was used to more than maybe a light dusting and even their engineers had failed to plan for it after a century of precedent told them they didn't have to worry. Their fault in seeing something which regularly survives hurricanes, tornadoes and dust storms fail them now is not an intrinsic failing of them as people or in this system. If we see this happen again next year, it'll be different but here and now is not an indictment.
 

Not Really Here

"You're a small, irrelevant island nation"
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Expecting one of the richest sections of the 1st world to keep operating its power grid as it has done so for a century is not blind hubris and having it knocked out by an outside threat is going to present challenges nobody accounted for and when someone is expected to do something they weren't taught beforehand out of the blue, they'll do something stupid as a rule, not because of stupidity or laziness but out of simple ignorance. Nobody in these regions was used to more than maybe a light dusting and even their engineers had failed to plan for it after a century of precedent told them they didn't have to worry. Their fault in seeing something which regularly survives hurricanes, tornadoes and dust storms fail them now is not an intrinsic failing of them as people or in this system. If we see this happen again next year, it'll be different but here and now is not an indictment.
You forgot the part where they made all the pre-winter inspections via zoom instead of in person due to the WuFlu.
And they only allowed 94 of 600 facilities to participate in the virtual meeting.
 

Michael Jacks0n

You know I'm bad, I'm bad.
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How much does she get paid again?
IIRC, apparently not a lot. I remember when she first got elected a few years back, there were numerous sob-story articles written about how she couldn't afford to live in a Washington D.C. apartment on her salary because the rent was too high, and Millennials and leftards used it as a call-to-arms against Boomers.
 
AOC raised money for a thing.

How much does she get paid again?

IIRC, apparently not a lot. I remember when she first got elected a few years back, there were numerous sob-story articles written about how she couldn't afford to live in a Washington D.C. apartment on her salary because the rent was too high, and Millennials and leftards used it as a call-to-arms against Boomers.
Congressmen get a salary of $174,000 a year other than a few leadership positions that get a bit more. They can also earn money from outside sources, but there are restrictions and reporting requirements, though I'm sure there are loopholes to them. That's exclusive of the $1 million plus that they get for staffing and job expenses.
 

Michael Jacks0n

You know I'm bad, I'm bad.
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Congressmen get a salary of $174,000 a year other than a few leadership positions that get a bit more. They can also earn money from outside sources, but there are restrictions and reporting requirements, though I'm sure there are loopholes to them. That's exclusive of the $1 million plus that they get for staffing and job expenses.
To be fair, these articles about her salary were from a few years ago, and that was probably before she earned any of those bonuses. Plus, I'm assuming the housing market in D.C. is ridiculous. I mean, San Fran has actual cases of people earning 6-figure incomes and still being homeless because they can't even afford to live in the city where they work, so it wouldn't surprise me if D.C. apartments were priced similarly.
 

Microlab

Chihuahuas are a figment of your imagination
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Expecting one of the richest sections of the 1st world to keep operating its power grid as it has done so for a century is not blind hubris and having it knocked out by an outside threat is going to present challenges nobody accounted for and when someone is expected to do something they weren't taught beforehand out of the blue, they'll do something stupid as a rule, not because of stupidity or laziness but out of simple ignorance. Nobody in these regions was used to more than maybe a light dusting and even their engineers had failed to plan for it after a century of precedent told them they didn't have to worry. Their fault in seeing something which regularly survives hurricanes, tornadoes and dust storms fail them now is not an intrinsic failing of them as people or in this system. If we see this happen again next year, it'll be different but here and now is not an indictment.
I have absolutely no clue how you don't equate critical reliance on da gubmint running reliably with being a dumbass. I live on a city grid older than the entire state of Texas, and I don't get cocky about it.
Whether or not these peoples' overwhelming, evidently life-incompatible ignorance of simple safety precautions is caused by their own egoism or by infrastructure coddling them, they're still ignorant, and there's no excuse you can make for it when someone's own safety is on the line. We're not exactly talking about people getting complacent about the trains being on-time, afterall.
This is real, mortal safety.

By definition, "being so ignorant as to directly cause your or someone else's demise" is a Darwin Award. There is no sympathy.
 

FatalTater

Fattest Among Thousands, Altogether Lethargic
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Supposed to warm up today. I predict lots of mud.

I wonder how much of the prepared vs not prepared is city vs country?
Where I grew up we didn't expect The City to keep the lights on, because there was no city. Hell, The County wouldn't even plow the roads where we were. If you got snowed in you either handled it yourself or waited for it to thaw.
 

Punished “Venom” pH

Trash gremlin, got sentience as a cosmic joke :U
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This is the American equivalent of the Fukushima disaster being exacerbated by Japan having multiple incompatible electrical grids... maybe this is the week Trump finally launches his infrastructure project...
 

Mr. Skeltal

Bone Poet
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I found the storm quaint from a Northerner's perspective but the complete paralysis it caused was less than funny.
Glad I had utilities on base throughout the worst of it.
 
To be fair, these articles about her salary were from a few years ago, and that was probably before she earned any of those bonuses. Plus, I'm assuming the housing market in D.C. is ridiculous. I mean, San Fran has actual cases of people earning 6-figure incomes and still being homeless because they can't even afford to live in the city where they work, so it wouldn't surprise me if D.C. apartments were priced similarly.
That's not a bonus. The $174,000 is the base congressional salary and has been for just over a decade at this point. Only the Speaker of the House, the President pro tempore of the Senate, and the Majority and Minority Leaders get paid more. The amount for staff and expenses varies with the budget, but it appears to have been around a million at least for a decade now. So unless she hadn't gotten paid yet while she was looking for housing, she had decent money from her salary.

A quick google and a check of the first result - apartments.com - suggests DC apartments are somewhere in the $1,500-$-6,000 a month range. So even if she got something at the upper end, she should have been able to find an apartment for around $72,000 a year. Pricey but should be well within her salary. Failing that, she could easily have done what other congressmen and high ranking officials do, and get a place in Alexandria or Arlington. It'd be a bigger commute, but no worse than thousands of other federal employees.

So I don't know what those news stories claimed, but I'd suspect they were exaggerated.
 

NyQuilninja

drink me
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That's not a bonus. The $174,000 is the base congressional salary and has been for just over a decade at this point. Only the Speaker of the House, the President pro tempore of the Senate, and the Majority and Minority Leaders get paid more. The amount for staff and expenses varies with the budget, but it appears to have been around a million at least for a decade now. So unless she hadn't gotten paid yet while she was looking for housing, she had decent money from her salary.

A quick google and a check of the first result - apartments.com - suggests DC apartments are somewhere in the $1,500-$-6,000 a month range. So even if she got something at the upper end, she should have been able to find an apartment for around $72,000 a year. Pricey but should be well within her salary. Failing that, she could easily have done what other congressmen and high ranking officials do, and get a place in Alexandria or Arlington. It'd be a bigger commute, but no worse than thousands of other federal employees.

So I don't know what those news stories claimed, but I'd suspect they were exaggerated.
There is quite a few bedroom community's near by as well has secure transportation services at her disposal. She just bemoaning about rent

 

Aidan

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How does this--or similar points--excuse the average Texan evidently not having a single external powersource in the event of an outage? How does it excuse Texans literally not comprehending how to preserve body heat? How does it excuse Texans not understanding burning coal inside is a bad idea?

This shit isn't even "hyper-specific disaster management", it's basic consideration. Questions like "What if the power goes out, and my perishable food is lost?" and "What if I'm cold/hot, and have no external heat/cooling to rely on?" and "What would I do about water if it shuts down somehow?" are the simplest things a modern human being could be concerned about.
If you're not prepared for those extremely simple problems, regardless of if they're caused by a blizzard or fucking Godzilla crashing into your city's powerplant, it means you're stupid and cocky enough to deserve whatever happens to you.
I got bad news friend, you will find yourself disappointed in probably 99% of Americans. When the power goes out in much of the South, you generally just lose comforts and aren't risking your life, regardless of the time of year.
The upset at Texans being unprepared for snow and ice, particularly without the usual infrastructure being available (roads, water, power), is really silly to me, but others have pointed out why it's retarded to expect this.
 
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