So What Does John Hope To Achieve With Growing Around -

Twilight Sparkle

[uncontrollable autistic noises]
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He's doing it for the money, clearly he can't get animated atrocities on television because of dang ol' dirty viacom! So he just made enterbots make a thing for television while he puts the most minimal work into it as possible. That's why he doesn't want to put it online instead because that "deep depression" that would put him in would be in his wallet. Hell, he doesnt get money off his "freelance" writing obviously and patreon won't be enough to pay for his own house
 

Sanae Kochiya

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As people already said, it's a combination of escapist fantasy and inflated ego.

I'd also argue that it's born out of Enter's ignorance for how the world actually works. He's shown contempt for higher education, disgust toward the companies that run network television, and obliviousness for the process of how he'd actually get Growing Around pitched, from what he should be focusing on to how he'd even manage to arrange a meeting with the people that would get his show on the air. He seems to live in his own fantasy world already, where Growing Around is this magical gem that no one's ever come up with and that he can just walk into any guy's office, pitch this, and get whatever he wants just right off the bat. I guess that's one of the reasons we're following GA so closely. In the off chance that he ever finishes all the stuff he wants to pitch, he might actually attempt to pitch it to some network, and the resulting blowback when he gets hit by reality square in the face will be hilarious.
 

SpessCaptain

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You know how you're young and you write novels but never get far with them and then you look back and realise how much was done wrong?
This is Growing Around but MrEnter has already gotten people on board with it so it's snowballing quickly.
Nothing will come of it and nothing of value would be lost this is MrEnter's splurge stage where he thinks he's figured out everything but really hasn't.
 

Orthodox Chrischanity

Mujahideen, come out to plaaay-ayyy!
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I wonder how he, or his crew would take it that should he get a pilot greenlit, he'd have ZERO control over it. All his crew? What crew? You will work with our crew, Mr. Enter. Voice actors? How sweet. No, we will hold our own auditions. By the way, now that we officially own GA, you must remove all your scripts and art off your DA account.

How hurt do you think his assembled crew would be? What about him? Would he care that he "sold out"?
 

Shokew

Trial by Fire! Trial by Fire!
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He's trying to prove he hasn't failed at life - when the cold harsh reality is that he has - everyone has said it better than I have; I'm just pointing out what's in front of me.
He, like this (non -) idea of his..... Have no sense of direction. Same with what will happen to him when what he's doing "on the side" grow old, unpopular, and unfavorable to not just people like ourselves who see through his BS, but likely society as a whole, once forced to look at the big picture (something cartoons/anime in general is not, nor will ever be apart of!).

He's not a good critic, he doesn't know what kids, nor what even adults want out of animation, he doesn't know or even understand just what the hell he is talking about or getting himself into, and most importantly - if his POS (non -) idea ever got made, he definitely would have no control over it (and would be forced to work with people they assembled for him - despite having his own "crew", or else it's the highway for Entard!), unless he keeps his shit relegated to YouTube, where thankfully only a few people will see it so the whole world doesn't have to be exposed to this trash - EVER.
 

Headbanger General

I think I've got brain damage...
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Not that I remotely like this idiot, but when was the last time you got paid $200 to review a children's cartoon?

Hmm, true. No, I can't remember the last time I got paid $200 to review a children's cartoon, but I can remember the last time I got paid $400 to sell a vacuum cleaner. Enter makes very little money. Even so, money isn't a measure of quality. Enter sucks as a reviewer and as a person. No amount of money will change that.
 

KingofManga420

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Hmm, true. No, I can't remember the last time I got paid $200 to review a children's cartoon, but I can remember the last time I got paid $400 to sell a vacuum cleaner. Enter makes very little money. Even so, money isn't a measure of quality. Enter sucks as a reviewer and as a person. No amount of money will change that.
I'm not denying that he's a bad person but I do think having a small modicum of money on a continual basis hardly qualifies as a failure at life. Theres a difference between being a hopeless failure on the streets and someone making enough to provide for themself regardless of that person's merits as a person.
 

chimpburgers

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Considering that this guy had only less than a 1000 subscribers in 2013 and rapidly built up his subscriber base in just a little over a year, he has been successful in that sense and getting paid that kind of money to do reviews too, though to be fair, even Andrew Dobson gets paid over $100 per month to do his shit drawings. In other ways though, he has fucked up and I enjoy goofing on that.
 

Shokew

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Not that I remotely like this idiot, but when was the last time you got paid $200 to review a children's cartoon?

You are right - that does sound like a good way to keep one making ends meet - I just wish this guy had the skill and IQ required to truly back it up for me respect (as in, NOT scoff in anger at) that living he makes... I know we all gotta get paid and all - but then there's making it in a sleazy way, like Entard has.

No amount of money can deny that truth if we're all talking about the guy (including myself, especially) so damn negatively, right?
 

Headbanger General

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I'm not denying that he's a bad person but I do think having a small modicum of money on a continual basis hardly qualifies as a failure at life. Theres a difference between being a hopeless failure on the streets and someone making enough to provide for themself regardless of that person's merits as a person.

Just to be clear, he's not a hopeless failure on the streets because he lives with his grandparents. As soon as the gravy train stops rolling, we'll see how far he makes it.

@CuriousBystander It shouldn't amaze you. As long as there are impressionable people in the world, hacks will be rolling in dough. The fact that he isn't makes me think that he's terrible at being a hack, as well.

-EDIT- @Shokew He puts out reviews, what, like twice a week? So, $200x52x2=$20800. Yeah, he'll be fine on his own as long as he lives like a hood rat.
 
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KingofManga420

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Just to be clear, he's not a hopeless failure on the streets because he lives with his grandparents. As soon as the gravy train stops rolling, we'll see how far he makes it.

@CuriousBystander It shouldn't amaze you. As long as there are impressionable people in the world, hacks will be rolling in dough. The fact that he isn't makes me think that he's terrible at being a hack, as well.
That makes it a bit more clear, but I maintain that he hasn't failed at life- only that he has a large chance to do so in his future.
 

Shokew

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@Shokew He puts out reviews, what, like twice a week? So, $200x52x2=$20800. Yeah, he'll be fine on his own as long as he lives like a hood rat.


That clinches it - I hate to ask, as I've done it before, but I'm proudly doing it again... WHY AIN'T HE IN SCHOOL IF HE WANTS TO DO THIS SO BADLY?!

Sorry to exclaim that - but 'hood rat' is no status to be proud of, TBH with all of you.
 

Sanae Kochiya

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That clinches it - I hate to ask, as I've done it before, but I'm proudly doing it again... WHY AIN'T HE IN SCHOOL IF HE WANTS TO DO THIS SO BADLY?!

Sorry to exclaim that - but 'hood rat' is no status to be proud of, TBH with all of you.
Look for the topic on @Cgame regarding Enter's views on college, but to boil it down, Enter doesn't value education and college because of his blithering childhood and how he "wasn't a good student" and a bunch of other bullshit.

He's also blissfully unaware of networking and the connections you can make in college, showing that he's put about as much thought into actually pitching GA as Chris has in self-reflection on why he's still girlfriend-free.
 

ASoulMan

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I think it's the reason that most have already stated before; He wants to show the cartoon industry how to do a show right in his own terms.

That and he has an interest in making a cartoon despite his actual knowledge of the industry itself.
 

DrChristianTroy

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I'm going to go with money. What other reason is there to make a shitty cartoon?

EDIT- Could be self-validation but I'll stick with money.
 

UmaCertaPessoa

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Not that I remotely like this idiot, but when was the last time you got paid $200 to review a children's cartoon?

The problem here is that Enter’s videos are his main, if not only, source of income. $200-400 a month is definitely not enough to live alone, and considering YouTube’s policy on copyright infringement, Enter may lose his “job” and be left on his own any day. If he had some sort of backup plan, this wouldn’t be an issue. Right now, though, the closest thing to a plan B he has is GA, and we all know how big of a chance that has of succeeding.

John probably knows relying on YouTube is a bad idea, so he came up with GA as a way to make money without getting a regular job or going to college. He got “famous” on YouTube without having to buy any equipment or even learn how to use WMM’s volume sliders, so GA will obviously be a big hit just as easily. Enter doesn’t really understand that being successful in the animation industry is almost impossible without a degree. Not to mention, John wants to write his own plots and cast his own team, which wouldn’t happen even if a network accepted his show.

So, in short, he should either get a job or go to college. Otherwise, he’s fucked.
 

Steamboat_Bill

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@UmaCertaPessoa: Cartoon Network and Disney Channel (of course, he won't accept Nick) do a lot of creator-driven material, so he could get a chance to write his own plots.

And he wouldn't even need to have genuine writing experience! The creators of Avatar got their own show with no writing experience and they got to write their own plots as well.

Of course, they still had experience... So he's still fucked.
 

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