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Subjectively described as a criminal, then it's okay to broadcast advocacy for violence against them.

Here's a scary scenario - Some college kid gets accused of rape by a jilted lover, which is vastly more common than feminists would have us believe, under the Title IX Kangaroo System. She proceeds to FB and smears him, and because it's an allegation of criminal behaviour (which is different than a criminal allegation, AFAIK), anyone that threatens violence against the guy is 100% scot-free, because he's been described as having committed a crime, and the veracity of that claim is immaterial.
This looks like a grand way to get included in a defamation lawsuit, to be honest. Since Facebook is tacitly approving of such messages in their own FAQ, they could become liable.

They just keep pushing that section 230 immunity. God damn. I detest government interference with private businesses but FB is practically begging to get fucked at this point.
 

TerribleIdeas™

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This looks like a grand way to get included in a defamation lawsuit, to be honest. Since Facebook is tacitly approving of such messages in their own FAQ, they could become liable.

They just keep pushing that section 230 immunity. God damn. I detest government interference with private businesses but FB is practically begging to get fucked at this point.
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I really don't like this clause, because there's been multiple cases where the guilt of an individual was widely reported by media, without any criminal proceedings. If I'm understanding this correctly, according to this standard, because everyone "knows that OJ killed his wife and Ron Goldman", it would be completely acceptable to broadcast threats towards him, even though he was never convicted, and only ever subject to civil penalties for those deaths.
 

Lissamine Green

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This looks like a grand way to get included in a defamation lawsuit, to be honest. Since Facebook is tacitly approving of such messages in their own FAQ, they could become liable.

They just keep pushing that section 230 immunity. God damn. I detest government interference with private businesses but FB is practically begging to get fucked at this point.
Right, I don't get why they think they can get away with this. They are not above the law. If someone uses facebook to carry out terroristic threats or whatever, and fb has in writing "we're basically fine with this because we don't like Paul Joseph Watson (or whoever)" then they are going to get in big trouble. And I will be glad to see it.
 

TerribleIdeas™

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It's like in the good old days: rumors are evidence and the crowd is the judge.
The only thing that has changed since then is you no longer burn people, you crush their social life.
It's hard to change your habits after all 🤷‍♀️
And their employment options, and their ability to engage in basic financial transactions, and everything downstream from both.

Edit - Why am I so frequently the person that finds the exceptional takes on twitter.
(Don't answer that question, you pack of mongoloids, I already know the answer.)

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"Reeeee! I can't understand why people like the aesthetics of a game that I refuse to play, because I'm an easily-offended asshole that can't understand that the animation involved had NOTHING TO DO with racism, and was simply an aesthetic choice by the developers!"
 
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neverendingmidi

it just goes on and on and on and on...
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Millennial "journalist" claims to be more of an expert on climate than a meteorologist with a PhD. Gets ratio'd to hell.
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Of course she's got a blue checkmark. And her description sounds like her and Stephanie Cianfriglia would get along great "I write and edit on rats, poop, corpses, crystals, food & health, but mostly the climate @newrepublic. Pitches/tips: eatkin@tnr.com"
 

Dom Cruise

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And their employment options, and their ability to engage in basic financial transactions, and everything downstream from both.

Edit - Why am I so frequently the person that finds the exceptional takes on twitter.
(Don't answer that question, you pack of mongoloids, I already know the answer.)

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"Reeeee! I can't understand why people like the aesthetics of a game that I refuse to play, because I'm an easily-offended asshole that can't understand that the animation involved had NOTHING TO DO with racism, and was simply an aesthetic choice by the developers!"
Imagine being that fucking sensitive that a game using a 1930s cartoon style is enough to trigger you because some cartoons and the culture of the time was racist, even though nothing in the game itself is, just the vague allusions to another time period is enough to trigger you.

These people are cultural barbarians, taking the good of past culture and leaving out the bad is the way culture has always evolved, it's exactly what should be done, which isn't the same as forgetting the negatives of the past, but it is how things evolve and improve.

But in Brave New World all culture and history from the past had been erased as well, so it's just par for the course for these people.
 

Otterly

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There’s a short scifi story called ‘the public hating’ by Steve Allen.( Back from the 50s, which produced some of the best work.) summary: an academic guilty of treason/wrongthink is executed in a stadium by people simply hating him. It was written just as McCarthyism was fizzling out.

I always think of it when I read about Twitter mobs or stories like this fb one. A lot of dystopian stuff from that era (and onwards) is eerily prescient
 

Maiden

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I don't even really have a comment for this, it's just kind of depressing... SJWs complain about other people trying to "whitewash history" but then it's okay when they do it because it makes them feel bad.


article text:
SAN FRANCISCO (AP) — San Francisco will spend up to $600,000 to paint over historical artwork at a public school depicting the life of George Washington, a mural once seen as educational and innovative but now criticized as racist and degrading for its depiction of black and Native American people.

The “Life of Washington” was painted by Victor Arnautoff, one of the foremost muralists in the San Francisco area during the Depression. The San Francisco School Board’s decision to paint over the 83-year-old mural is prompting some to worry that other artwork from the so-called New Deal era could face a similar fate because of changing sensitivities.

In addition to depicting Washington as a soldier, surveyor and statesman, the 13-panel, 1,600-sqaure foot mural at George Washington High School contains images of white pioneers standing over the body of a Native American and slaves working at Washington’s Mount Vernon estate in Virginia.

The board’s decision last week comes at a time when the legacies of Washington and other historical figures who owned slaves are being re-examined. Some cities have changed the names of streets and buildings named after slave owners.

Richard Walker, a professor emeritus of geography at the University of California, Berkeley and director of the history project, Living New Deal, said the Washington mural is meant to show the “uncomfortable facts” about America’s first president. For that, it was among many New Deal works of art considered radical when created.

“We on the left ought to welcome the honest portrayal,” Walker said, adding that destroying a piece of art “is the worst way we can deal with historic malfeasance, historic evils.”

Mark Sanchez, vice president of the school board and a third-grade teacher, said students who must walk past the mural during the school day don’t have a choice about seeing the harmful images. “Painting it over represents not only a symbolic fresh start, but a real fresh start,” he said.

Lope Yap, Jr., vice president of the Washington High School Alumni Association and a 1970 graduates, disagreed, saying when he was a student and saw the mural he was “awed by the subtle ways Arnautoff was able to critique American history.” He said the depictions are “treasures, priceless art” and painting it over is tantamount to pretending the history depicted never happened.

“I’m not into censorship,” Yap said. “I would want to deal with history so we can prevent this from ever happening again.”

The mural is a fresco, which means it’s painted on the wall and can’t easily be removed. Painting it over won’t happen immediately. Should a lawsuit or other delay arise, it will be covered up until the issues are resolved. The board plans to digitally archive the mural.

Most of the $600,000 earmarked for the project will go toward a required environmental review and to cover expected legal challenges.

George Washington High School has about 2,000 students. Nearly all are people of color and many come from low-income families. As early as the 1960s, some students argued the mural’s imagery is offensive and racist. Renewed opposition emerged in recent years amid protests in the South and elsewhere over statues honoring Confederate heroes.

Arnautoff, a Russian-born communist and social critic, was hired with Federal Art Project funds as part of President Franklin D. Roosevelt’s New Deal, a series of government programs meant to help lift the country out of the Great Depression of the 1930s.

He was one of a group of artists to paint murals at San Francisco’s Coit Tower that prompted anti-communists to delay the tower’s opening. Arnautoff’s piece, called “City Life,” shows urban workers crowding around a newsstand of socialist newspapers and magazines. The piece faced criticism for failing to include the conservative-leaning San Francisco Chronicle.

“Victor Arnautoff was far ahead of his time, and we have yet to catch up with him in terms of making school curriculum more inclusive and historically accurate,” said Harvey Smith, president of the National New Deal Preservation Association.

Walker and other supporters of the mural worry that painting over it may signal that it’s acceptable to destroy the thousands of other New Deal murals across the country. Activists have been successful in getting a series of New Deal murals at the University of New Mexico covered up. Other New Deal murals in New York and Iowa have been vandalized, as well as painted over and subsequently restored.

“The mural is an immense public treasure during one of the few periods of American history where you had the federal government supporting public art, public spaces, public goods,” Walker said. “It’s been the right that has always attacked the New Deal with its social programs.”

Walker suggested rather than destroying the Washington mural, school officials should simply cover it and require freshmen to take a course on slavery and California’s role in subjugating Native Americans.

To Sanchez, that’s not enough.

“I understand the importance of art, and it should be the last thing we do, to attempt to cover any kind of art up,” he said. “The starting point has to be from those who feel they are harmed and how that is unacceptable, especially given the history of this country. When we don’t listen, we don’t learn.”
 

Jhonson Jhonson

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Millennial "journalist" claims to be more of an expert on climate than a meteorologist with a PhD. Gets ratio'd to hell.
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Of course she's got a blue checkmark. And her description sounds like her and Stephanie Cianfriglia would get along great "I write and edit on rats, poop, corpses, crystals, food & health, but mostly the climate @newrepublic. Pitches/tips: eatkin@tnr.com"
She just shat on his meteorology degree... So yeah, fuck your journalism degree on the climate beat. Those fuckers want respect but they respect nobody.
 

Dom Cruise

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I don't even really have a comment for this, it's just kind of depressing... SJWs complain about other people trying to "whitewash history" but then it's okay when they do it because it makes them feel bad.


article text:
SAN FRANCISCO (AP) — San Francisco will spend up to $600,000 to paint over historical artwork at a public school depicting the life of George Washington, a mural once seen as educational and innovative but now criticized as racist and degrading for its depiction of black and Native American people.

The “Life of Washington” was painted by Victor Arnautoff, one of the foremost muralists in the San Francisco area during the Depression. The San Francisco School Board’s decision to paint over the 83-year-old mural is prompting some to worry that other artwork from the so-called New Deal era could face a similar fate because of changing sensitivities.

In addition to depicting Washington as a soldier, surveyor and statesman, the 13-panel, 1,600-sqaure foot mural at George Washington High School contains images of white pioneers standing over the body of a Native American and slaves working at Washington’s Mount Vernon estate in Virginia.

The board’s decision last week comes at a time when the legacies of Washington and other historical figures who owned slaves are being re-examined. Some cities have changed the names of streets and buildings named after slave owners.

Richard Walker, a professor emeritus of geography at the University of California, Berkeley and director of the history project, Living New Deal, said the Washington mural is meant to show the “uncomfortable facts” about America’s first president. For that, it was among many New Deal works of art considered radical when created.

“We on the left ought to welcome the honest portrayal,” Walker said, adding that destroying a piece of art “is the worst way we can deal with historic malfeasance, historic evils.”

Mark Sanchez, vice president of the school board and a third-grade teacher, said students who must walk past the mural during the school day don’t have a choice about seeing the harmful images. “Painting it over represents not only a symbolic fresh start, but a real fresh start,” he said.

Lope Yap, Jr., vice president of the Washington High School Alumni Association and a 1970 graduates, disagreed, saying when he was a student and saw the mural he was “awed by the subtle ways Arnautoff was able to critique American history.” He said the depictions are “treasures, priceless art” and painting it over is tantamount to pretending the history depicted never happened.

“I’m not into censorship,” Yap said. “I would want to deal with history so we can prevent this from ever happening again.”

The mural is a fresco, which means it’s painted on the wall and can’t easily be removed. Painting it over won’t happen immediately. Should a lawsuit or other delay arise, it will be covered up until the issues are resolved. The board plans to digitally archive the mural.

Most of the $600,000 earmarked for the project will go toward a required environmental review and to cover expected legal challenges.

George Washington High School has about 2,000 students. Nearly all are people of color and many come from low-income families. As early as the 1960s, some students argued the mural’s imagery is offensive and racist. Renewed opposition emerged in recent years amid protests in the South and elsewhere over statues honoring Confederate heroes.

Arnautoff, a Russian-born communist and social critic, was hired with Federal Art Project funds as part of President Franklin D. Roosevelt’s New Deal, a series of government programs meant to help lift the country out of the Great Depression of the 1930s.

He was one of a group of artists to paint murals at San Francisco’s Coit Tower that prompted anti-communists to delay the tower’s opening. Arnautoff’s piece, called “City Life,” shows urban workers crowding around a newsstand of socialist newspapers and magazines. The piece faced criticism for failing to include the conservative-leaning San Francisco Chronicle.

“Victor Arnautoff was far ahead of his time, and we have yet to catch up with him in terms of making school curriculum more inclusive and historically accurate,” said Harvey Smith, president of the National New Deal Preservation Association.

Walker and other supporters of the mural worry that painting over it may signal that it’s acceptable to destroy the thousands of other New Deal murals across the country. Activists have been successful in getting a series of New Deal murals at the University of New Mexico covered up. Other New Deal murals in New York and Iowa have been vandalized, as well as painted over and subsequently restored.

“The mural is an immense public treasure during one of the few periods of American history where you had the federal government supporting public art, public spaces, public goods,” Walker said. “It’s been the right that has always attacked the New Deal with its social programs.”

Walker suggested rather than destroying the Washington mural, school officials should simply cover it and require freshmen to take a course on slavery and California’s role in subjugating Native Americans.

To Sanchez, that’s not enough.

“I understand the importance of art, and it should be the last thing we do, to attempt to cover any kind of art up,” he said. “The starting point has to be from those who feel they are harmed and how that is unacceptable, especially given the history of this country. When we don’t listen, we don’t learn.”
I can't even begin to follow the logic here, a mural depicting the downsides of Washington and American history is something people on the left want destroyed? Wouldn't they support it?

It shouldn't be destroyed, that's just wrong to destroy an artwork that old like that.
 

CumDumpster

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I can't even begin to follow the logic here, a mural depicting the downsides of Washington and American history is something people on the left want destroyed? Wouldn't they support it?

It shouldn't be destroyed, that's just wrong to destroy an artwork that old like that.
I see someone didn't watch PSA Sitch's videos on the subject.
Once you do that, then it becomes clear that these people are essentially the "hippies" of the '60s, all except they're interested in power more than narcotics.
Corporate social media is one wicked drug. It's the reason why I say that public squares should either be ran by an individual, or government funded.
 

AnOminous

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I can't even begin to follow the logic here, a mural depicting the downsides of Washington and American history is something people on the left want destroyed? Wouldn't they support it?

It shouldn't be destroyed, that's just wrong to destroy an artwork that old like that.
The only kind of people who want to destroy old art literally for being old and somehow offending them are savages like the Taliban. These people are on the same level of cultural terrorism.
 

Otterly

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There’s something particularly awful about groups who want to destroy art and culture. ISIS bulldozed, dynamited and sledgehammered loads of culturally important works and sites.

Here’s a quote: let’s play ‘who said it? ISIS or SJWs?’

“A misguided sort of creativity.”

Answer is A: Isis! And your prize is a sledgehammer

Source: http://archive.li/NTXvl (in Russian, I await criticism of my translation.)
 

Matthew216

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There’s a short scifi story called ‘the public hating’ by Steve Allen.( Back from the 50s, which produced some of the best work.) summary: an academic guilty of treason/wrongthink is executed in a stadium by people simply hating him. It was written just as McCarthyism was fizzling out.

I always think of it when I read about Twitter mobs or stories like this fb one. A lot of dystopian stuff from that era (and onwards) is eerily prescient
I just thought of an idea for a novel set in such a dystopia. You find your lovers assigned to you at birth by an all-powerful government (whether you’re gay or not doesn’t matter, if you’re assigned mate is the same gender, they are your lover), the government tracks you by a chip insert and uses a quasi-internet system to make sure you’re “together.” There’s even a alarm system that tells you it’s the government appointed sex-time.

You don’t want to know how reproduction is done.
 

scathefire

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I just thought of an idea for a novel set in such a dystopia. You find your lovers assigned to you at birth by an all-powerful government (whether you’re gay or not doesn’t matter, if you’re assigned mate is the same gender, they are your lover), the government tracks you by a chip insert and uses a quasi-internet system to make sure you’re “together.” There’s even a alarm system that tells you it’s the government appointed sex-time.

You don’t want to know how reproduction is done.
That sounds like the YA trilogy Matched, which I've heard sucks ass (not shocking considering it’s the tired YA archetype of "I am a teenage girl assigned to do something in my life by a an oppressive government").

I'll bet there's an existing example of that concept being done well, though. The default for YA books seems to range from "meh" to "boring and cringe"
 
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