Sonichu Sonees and Roseys -

[Night Terror]

Reading the delightful fanfic CWCollateral has given me quite an interest in the fuzzy monstrosities that are Sonees and Roseys. For those not in the know, Chris created two baby/pre-evolved forms for Sonichu and Rosechu called Sonee and Rosey, which resemble two chubby amorphous blobs with zombie stares. The most (in)famous Sonee and Roseys are Sonichu's very own children, Christine Rosey, Cera Rosey, and Robbie Sonee, three of the most hated characters in the entire Sonichu series.
How do you feel about Sonees and Roseys? Do you find them cute, like Chris, or do you prefer to imagine giving them a good kicking? Are they even necessary at all?

 

[Pikonic]

I don't get the hate they receive. Yeah, they're soulless creepy blobs, but so is everything else in the comic.
As for necessity, they're not needed and hurt the storyline (and it was hurting bad before). The thing about children's characters is they rarely have kids, Poof from Fairly Oddparents is an exception (I know nothing other than its existence, stopped watching the show years ago)
Kids wanna see superheroes do super things. Not do the mundane activities that adults in their life do, like raise babies. If you wanna have kids in the comic fine, just make them appear through a new character, like "this is Pikonic and her son Pikee, look how cute he is, he always gets into trouble though"
No child would find the Christmas story interesting. They'd be like "where's asperchu dressed as the grinch with his evil coal monsters" or something. Rosechu made cookies. Mary Lee didn't steal them to power her super machine, she just made them for her kid's class The End. Sonees and Rosees do absolutely nothing.

Except Sandy, but that's for another thread another day

 

[Bridechu]

The main problem I have with them is how fucky it makes the already weird waters of just what the fuck Sonichus and Rosechus are. Are they Pokemon or people? What standard are they being held to? When he started the comic, Chris was perfectly fine to just say "They're Pokemon they're born pretty much able to take care of themselves, so even though they're fifteen they can live on their own and junk". But then he got accused of kiddie porn and suddenly everybody's gotta be eighteen and over, but the retcon dates make Rosechu like nine when they first kiss and sixteen when she gets married. Which wouldn't be weird if they were animals (shit, you can breed most Pokemon as soon as they're born in the games) but Chris made it a big deal by holding them to human consent laws.

Then there's the Chaotic Combo, who all evolve into fully adult, talking forms in no less than a month (and for Punchy it's a day) with no difference from their adult forms (including boobs). Then at ten they meet up and they're living lives apart from their parents and flirting with each other and fighting stuff to the death. So, okay, like real Pokemon it's not about age, it's about evolution, fair enough, Chris.

But then we get Sonichu's kids, who look and act like toddlers after several years of existence. Are they all retarded? Do they just have no motivation to evolve because they have a TV? Is it because they're being raised by their own kind? Are second generation Sonichus fundamentally different than rainbow-created ones? And then Sandy fucks it up again by becoming stronger and smarter than them in half a fucking week. So by Christmas Sandy will probably be in high school and Cera is still shitting her pants.

I know better than to expect sanity and continuity from Sonichu, but it still pisses me off. I think Rosechu surgically implanted Everstones in her kids to keep them young, either because she didn't want her kids to leave her or because she thinks the girls will be more beautiful than her if they grow up and they'll get more attention.

 

[Pikonic]

But then we get Sonichu's kids, who look and act like toddlers after several years of existence. Are they all retarded? Do they just have no motivation to evolve because they have a TV? Is it because they're being raised by their own kind? Are second generation Sonichus fundamentally different than rainbow-created ones? And then Sandy fucks it up again by becoming stronger and smarter than them in half a fucking week. So by Christmas Sandy will probably be in high school and Cera is still shitting her pants.

Sadly we'll never know since Chris didn't answer this Mailbag Question (Mailbag 5

Dear Chris,
On the Cwcipedia pages for Rosey and Sonee, you said that they evolve at a high friendship, or happiness level, however, your newest character, Sandy Rosechu evolved after only one week! This must mean that she is happier than Robbie, Cerah, and Christine. Are Sonichu and Rosechu bad parents? Their kids are clearly very unhappy, or else they would have evolved by now!

 

[TastyWoodenBadge]

"CWCollateral" did a good job in making Sonees and Roseys as unlikable as humanly possible.

 

[snowkitten91]

A CWCollateral fan!

Ok, back to topic, like everything else that Chris tries to do and ends up having the exact opposite effects, any attempt of him doing something cute turns out being extremely creepy.

(I mean, just look at that face. )

Spoiler

 

[exball]

A CWCollateral fan!

Ok, back to topic, like everything else that Chris tries to do and ends up having the exact opposite effects, any attempt of him doing something cute turns out being extremely creepy.

(I mean, just look at that face. )

Spoiler

That face has consumed tens of thousands of souls.

 

[Pine Tar]

CWCollaeral, eh? It's pretty good, but for the life of me, I don't know how it spawned 10 side-stories. Maybe people were that starved for Sonichu anything?

 

[Something Vague]

I'd have to go with the whole "they are retarded" theory just because it makes the most sense to me.

 

[random_pickle]

Personally, I find them actually kind of cute depending on who draws them. Even so, I love SRTF stories. My favorite has got to be AVSA3

 

[Giovanni]

(I mean, just look at that face. )

Some men just want to watch the world burn.

 

[José Mourinho]

I just find the concept stupid.

 

[Henry Bemis]

Personally, I find them actually kind of cute depending on who draws them. Even so, I love SRTF stories. My favorite has got to be AVSA3

They're at least cute by virtue of the fact that they aren't utterly focused on banging others (heterosexually, of course) like cheap gongs.

 

[CatParty]

they are living abortions

 

[Pine Tar]

they are living abortions

And that's how the SRTF group got 10,000+ views in less than a year. That, and Manajerkop is a hell of a promoter.

 

[Manajerkop]

Reading the delightful fanfic CWCollateral has given me quite an interest in the fuzzy monstrosities that are Sonees and Roseys.

Delightful? Thank you!

I don't get the hate they receive. Yeah, they're soulless creepy blobs, but so is everything else in the comic.

I think the hatred stems from the idea that each of the Sonichu kids represents a part of Chris, or rather, what he wishes he could be. I did a bit of an analysis on this theory, but really, it's all just speculation for the most part.

"CWCollateral" did a good job in making Sonees and Roseys as unlikable as humanly possible.

Comments like that are the reason I love to write this stuff. Thank you.

Personally, I find them actually kind of cute depending on who draws them. Even so, I love SRTF stories. My favorite has got to be AVSA3

Yeah, I wish Alcoholic-Legend would get back to work on that. I had to bail him out and finish AVSA 2 for him, and I don't intend to do the same for 3.

 

[random_pickle]

Hey Manajerkop, I didn't think you lurked the forums. Glad to see you still got some free time.

 

[Manajerkop]

Hey Manajerkop, I didn't think you lurked the forums. Glad to see you still got some free time.

One of my friends on DA linked me to this thread. I don't usually check the CWCki forums, but it's nice to know that people outside of DA are reading CWCollateral.

 

[Night Terror]

Reading the delightful fanfic CWCollateral has given me quite an interest in the fuzzy monstrosities that are Sonees and Roseys.

Delightful? Thank you!

For real dude, it's brilliant. I don't really read much fanfiction, but I was hooked on CWCollateral. I especially liked the paragraph on Sonee and Rosey parasitism in Chapter 13. You know, this one:

Being a parasitic species by nature, the Electric Hedgehog Pokémon had been designed to take advantage of other organisms by any means necessary. At birth, their "cutesy" characteristics like the Rosey's wink and the Sonee's natural tripping were meant to adore potential hosts into providing them with food, care, protection, or anything else a baby chu needed to survive.

Great stuff, dude. Can't wait for the next chapter.
But let's not get too off topic, haha...

 

[The Dude]

Sonichu is, at its core, wish fulfillment for Chris. Sonichu is the strong, popular hero with lots of friends/underlings Chris wishes he was. Rosechu is the submissive fuckmommy he wishes he could be with. The Sonees and Rosees, especially the Rosees, are the children he wishes he could have. In fact, if you want to see how Chris would be as a parent look at Sonichu. Who takes care of the little bastard chus? The fucking next door neighbor. The only time they are seen is when they're being cute or they are doing something as a family, like baking cookies. Sonichu does, as Chris would, pass off taking care of the kids to someone else because he has "better things to do" (read: too busy playing vidya). That's MY perspective being a parent myself.

Chris: Hmm...m'yeah, go ask Grammy to cook you some Hungry Mans Crystal, daddy has to kill dis prossitute an' get his money back on GTA5.