Sony hate thread -

[Marissa Moira]

Three things I learned today:

1) David Jaffe is the lead designer and game director of God of War and co-created Twisted Metal.

2) He has a Youtube channel.

3) His PlayStation account was temporarily suspended for 7 days.

And bonus fact: Sony bans people off of PSN.

Evidently, it was because of a lesbian joke. Damn.

If you tie your social media to your PSN account you're subjected to both sets of rules. Because it will post shit from your PSN timeline onto your Social Media and stuff from social media wil appear on PSN.

People need to learn to compartmentalize.

Also you left out it wasn't just a lesbian joke, he was thirsting over Rivet.

 

[X Pac Heat]

So I decided to sell my PS4 since I haven't played it in over a year and I have absolutely no interest in anything coming out.

Why, exactly, does it take like four hours to factory reset a PS4? I deleted literally everything off of it but apparently I have to factory reset it to get my profile off of it. It told me 4 hours which I assumed was if you didn't delete all your save data and such, but sure as shit this thing is really taking 4 hours to factory reset.

That's nothing.

I sold my PS3 four months ago. It took mine 18 HOURS to do a factory reset.

The Xbox Ones I factory reset always took like an hour or two tops maybe. Definitely nothing long enough for me to remember.

 

[Marissa Moira]

That's nothing.

I sold my PS3 four months ago. It took mine 18 HOURS to do a factory reset.

The Xbox Ones I factory reset always took like an hour or two tops maybe. Definitely nothing long enough for me to remember.

What the hell did you do that it required 18 hours. You take out the HD, wipe it on your computer put it back and untie your account from the machine via the web browser or internal settings.

 

[X Pac Heat]

What the hell did you do that it required 18 hours. You take out the HD, wipe it on your computer put it back and untie your account from the machine via the web browser or internal settings.

I factory reset it. That's why it took 18 hours. I wasn't cracking that thing open with how fucking picky Ebay buyers are.

What did I do? I guess not play the piece of shit for 8 years. Leave it to Sony to expect me to have to take out the HDD and manually wipe it as well as use their shitty fucking website if I want to do something as simple as factory reset it.

 

[The Demon Pimp of Razgriz]

Apparently Sony acquired Housemarque, the makers of Returnal (which I've heard was only okay, at best). Though, when they announced the acquisition, some idiot screwed up and said they were acquiring Bluepoint (the makers of the Demon Soul's remake) instead. What are the running bets that Housemarque will still exist in five years (I put the odds at 50/50) and they actually do acquire Bluepoint?

 

[SSj_Ness]

Sony used to be great in the Ps3-psvita era but now they suck. And most of the studios that made games for them like japan studio (Ape escape) and liverpool (wipeout) are gone. What went so wrong?

Truth is they were only great from PS1-PSP. PS3 era is overrated but alright, though it's downhill from there. They earned the name Soyny with the PS4.

Westernization is the easiest way to sum up the problem.

 

[ProblematicUser420]

I only recall PS3 getting decent at the end of its life. If you were an adopter from before like 2011 it was fucking awful. All of the complaints about how lame Microsofts first party offerings are was basically Sony with the PS3. It seemed like for the longest time all they had was Uncharted (which I never understood the love for) and MGS4 (and MGS4 is *really* debatable because the only people I know who liked it were MGS fanboys).

Not to mention just how many 3rd party titles had so many issues due to what I assume was the cell processor. And the dogshit online and the hack attacks.

 

[Indian J.C denton]

Uncharted can be summoned up as a shitter prince of persia sands of time ( thoroughly recommend the sands of time trilogy

I only recall PS3 getting decent at the end of its life. If you were an adopter from before like 2011 it was fucking awful. All of the complaints about how lame Microsofts first party offerings are was basically Sony with the PS3. It seemed like for the longest time all they had was Uncharted (which I never understood the love for) and MGS4 (and MGS4 is *really* debatable because the only people I know who liked it were MGS fanboys).

Not to mention just how many 3rd party titles had so many issues due to what I assume was the cell processor. And the dogshit online and the hack attacks.

 

[The Last Stand]

What was bad about Uncharted? I enjoyed it.

 

[ProblematicUser420]

What was bad about Uncharted? I enjoyed it.

I just didn't like it. I wouldn't say it was bad per say but the whole time I played it I was just scratching my head at the love for it. Same with Uncharted 2 and 3 (although I didn't finish 3 because I was so over it by the halfway point).

The games just had really awkward controls and the gameplay was boring. What really floored me was when I told people about this they told me to play the remaster and I had to explain to them that was what I was playing so I can only imagine how shitty the controls felt in the original 3.

The first 3 really feel like games that got overly praised because PS3 needed a killer app at that point and it was the best they had. They're not bad, but I don't see them as being that much better than everything else that was ignored at the time.

 

[X Pac Heat]

Uncharted 1-3 were the start of Sony fanboys realizing they liked mediocre movies over actual games because that's all Uncharted really is. They were never praised for good gameplay but for "great set pieces" and "amazing acting for a video game".

 

[The Last Stand]

I would say that Uncharted was a tech demo of what the PlayStation 3 could do. And it succeeded. Its story, however, leaves a lot to be desired. If you pay attention to that sort of thing outside of dialogue.

 

[Ginger Piglet]

When did the rot truly set in with Sony?

I'm gonna say the early 2000s. Here's why. TRIGGER WARNING: long, autism.

Sony was mainly known in the west for making serviceable but nothing special gear, like many Japanese electronics companies, back in the 1950s. However in the 1960s they went from imitating better known Western manufacturers to genuine innovation, such as with the first fully transistorised radios and TV sets. In 1968 came their biggest and most influential innovation - the Trinitron. Put briefly, this was an attempt to make a better, brighter, and more colourful television set. At that time, most TVs used a "shadow mask" which blocked up to 80 percent of the electron beam from hitting the phosphor. There had been experiments in the early 1960s with an aperture grille but they had not really gone anywhere. Sony bought a small company called Chromatic Labs and attempted to develop this idea but without much success until they hit on using three separate electron beams, one for each of red, green, and blue. This hit the market in 1968 as the Trinitron. It was more expensive than a traditional shadow mask TV but looked so much better. The Trinitron name became the standard for CRTs for the rest of the 20th century.

In the 1970s they developed the first home video format, Betamax, which contrary to popular belief was NOT better image quality than VHS. It laid the groundwork though of analog video on parallel tracks scanned by a moving head; JVC's VHS system perfected the formula by making tapes long enough and hard-wearing enough that you could record an entire film or sportsball game on it.

In 1979, they developed the Walkman. While not the first portable music player (there were battery powered record turntables like the Victrola and Dansette in the 1960s) it was the first one to be able to play music on the burgeoning cassette tape format in stereo at a good enough quality, and unlike portable turntables you could move around with them strapped on to your belt without them skipping all over the joint. It was also far more convenient than lugging a 17 kilogram boombox everywhere and didn't annoy people as much on buses or trains, and with a headphone splitter and a line in to record with it was arguably what "democratised" music in the 1980s. There were loads of variants of this such as a twin deck Walkman and even professional grade Walkmans aimed at musicians with a stereo microphone podged into one corner of the case so you could record your jam sessions on the go.

In the early 1980s they developed the PS-F9, known as the Flamingo by collectors. This was an attempt at a record Walkman in that it was a battery powered pocket-sized linear tracking vinyl turntable.

In the late 1980s they developed the first CD changers, usually with a big drawer that held six CDs in a carousel fashion.

In 1992 they developed the Minidisc, a music format that had all the advantages of the cassette tape of portability, customisability, and recordability but by being digital rather than analog avoided the main drawback of the cassette which was that copies degraded noticeably in fidelity per generation. It, and Philips' DCC, were considered so threatening by the RIAA that they sponsored legislation to basically nobble it.

In 1995 they released the PlayStation. At that time, consoles were aimed mostly at tweens and teens and PC gaming was more "adult" if you will. Fewer cartoon hedgehogs and more in-depth strategy stuff or graphic violence. The original Playstation had two main selling points:

- It used discs rather than cartridges. Stamping CDs is cheaper than assembling plastic boxes full of ROM chips. They were prepared to run the risk of piracy to cut costs and ease distribution in this way.
- It hit the twenty-something market. Games on it were "mature" enough to appeal to people for whom blue hedgehogs might be juvenile but still fun enough to not be seen as "boring" like a lot of PC games at the time were. It slotted the demographic nicely.

So, what could possibly go wrong? You have a company known for making quality and innovative products at a reasonably affordable price (yes, there were specialist manufacturers like Revox and Nakamichi for cassette tape decks, Wharfedale for speakers, Rega for record players, and so forth, who did better in their field) and which was willing to take on entrenched interests in their pursuit of making quality gear that was accessible and useable.

Well.

They bought Columbia, a major Hollywood studio, and BMG, a major record label group. This was sort of an attempt at enforcing vertical integration. They'd had such woes with the Minidisc and the RIAA / MPAA trying to nobble their products because muh piracy that they thought that if they owned the content creators, they could circumvent such activities. Unfortunately this was a poison pill.

All of a sudden they weren't the hardware industry battling armies of lawyers any more. They were the people who retained the armies of lawyers. People who came through Hollywood and the music industry suddenly had their own pet hardware manufacturer. Those people saw Napster, and they were S E E T H I N G. This was like the cassette tape times ten. One of Sony's executives said of Napster, "We will block it at your cable company. We will block it at your computer." And lo, the challenge was thrown down.

A few years later, they made headlines for all the wrong reasons when they put malware on music CDs. This was their absolute lowest point and absolutely emblematic of their mentality at the time.

They backtracked and recalled all those CDs, but the rot had set in. They were no longer a hardware or electronics manufacturer. They were now a content producer primarily. Now, their executives are content people. Their values are those of content people. In the 2000s that was "muh piracy" and nowadays it's wokeness because Hollywood. When was the last time you bought a Sony product that was a game changer the same way as the Trinitron, Walkman, Flamingo, CD changer, or PS1 was.

A long fucking time, I'll bet.

Their TVs are okay but nothing special. Their smartphones are not up there with the top end of Android manufacturers. Their stereos are distinctly meh. Their 40th anniversary Walkman was an Android phone with some hard buttons on the side, the phone bits pulled out, and a leather case to look like the original Walkman. Their laptops are badge engineered Chinesium. On the other side, they own huge catalogues of record labels and film studios. Those pull in way more than their physical products, revenue wise. The PS2 was the best selling console ever, but the PS3 was a hard to develop for slab sold at a huge loss, and the PS4 and PS5 are basically gimped PCs in fancy cases with needless custom OSes.

This is why they are so shit. They stopped innovating other than in ways to gouge consoomers.