South Korea court rules explicit anime and manga drawings are images of child sex abuse -

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Ahriman

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South Korea’s Supreme Court has overturned a lower court decision and ruled that sexually explicit drawings of teenagers in “anime” cartoons and “manga” comics should be considered images of child sexual abuse.

After issuing its ruling on Thursday, the court ordered a retrial for the operator of a file-sharing web site accused of violating the child protection law for distributing video clips that included depictions of characters in school uniforms engaging in explicit sex acts, The Korea Herald reported.

The defendant, only identified by his surname, Lim, had previously been found guilty of sharing pornography for profit for nearly three years from May 2010 and fined GBP 3,378.

Lower courts had stated, however, that it was “unreasonable” to prosecute him on charges of disseminating images of children being abused simply because the characters in animated drawings wore school uniforms and had a “young appearance”.

The lower courts said more evidence that the characters were under the legal age of consent would be required to go ahead with a prosecution.

The Supreme Court has overturned those decisions, ruling, “In the perspective of a common individual in our society, the contents of the videos demonstrate what can be seen to be teenagers”.

It is not clear what punishment Lim might face, as child campaigners have been critical of the 18-month prison term given recently to a South Korean national who ran one of the most extensive dark web child abuse sites ever uncovered.

Law enforcement officials in 18 countries around the world, including Britain, announced in October the break-up of the Welcome to Video child pornography web site, which was operated by Jong Woo Son.

The site relied on the anonymous Bitcoin cryptocurrency trasnsactions to sell access to 250,000 videos depicting child abuse, authorities said. In connection with the case, authorities rescued 23 underage victims in the United States, Britain and Spain.

The South Korean court’s decision is also in contrast to authorities in Japan, the home of anime and manga.

The Japanese government finally passed legislation in 2014 that outlawed the possession of imaged of child sexual abuse, but did not criminalise sexually explicit images of children in anime and manga.

Campaigners against child pornography were unable to defeat Japan’s powerful comic and animated movie industry, which successfully argued that as the images were merely drawings there were no “victims” and therefore no crime was being perpetrated.

Artists, writers and publishers also claimed that imposing bans on their work would be an infringement of their freedom of expression, which is protected by the constitution.

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I am okay with this. Granted, it's not the same as actual CP but it's pretty damn nasty either way.
 

Kuchipatchi

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I am okay with this. Granted, it's not the same as actual CP but it's pretty damn nasty either way.

by this logic all action/war movies should be illegal and all actors and directors arrested because they murder people in their movies. they're cartoons, they're not real, why do governments have such a hard time understanding that?

There's depicting child sex abuse in fiction for plot purposes and then there's needing minors in your wank bank.
 

Negilum

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I tend to generally follow the rule that whenever someone claims to be doing something "for the children" they're being disengenous scum.

But as far as I'm concerned, I really don't see a reason to consume sexually explicit, drawn child pornography unless they are a pedophile.

and so my ruling is this: die pedo, die.
 

Negilum

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There's depicting child sex abuse in fiction for plot purposes and then there's needing minors in your wank bank.

I don't understand the plot purpose of explicit sex acts on a child. I understand having characters sexually abused for plot purposes, but to show scenes such as sexual penetration really only serve the cravings of pedophiles. Maybe I'm wrong...
 

Tim Buckley

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There's depicting child sex abuse in fiction for plot purposes and then there's needing minors in your wank bank.
Filming pornographic material with minors is a crime because someone was abused to make the material, thus it should be illegal.
Drawing even the most depraved shit is a victim-less crime which also serves the purpose of exposing the depraved artists or consumers in one way or another.
I find furry porn, loli, scat, guro, etc art disgusting, distastful and would never want to assosiate with anyone who enjoys that shit, but supporting censorship for literally offensive drawings is not something I would support because I'm not a butthurt faggot.
The levels of cope are off the charts on reddit, as one can imagine.
We're taking your loli away and there is nothing you can do about it, pedo.
As if censorship would stop pedos in anyway, retard.
 
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Ahriman

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@Ahriman

I'm also OK with this. We can argue day and night about whether internet or mass media was a mistake, but pornography, whether live or drawn, was DEFINITELY a mistake.
Damn right.
There's depicting child sex abuse in fiction for plot purposes and then there's needing minors in your wank bank.
The vast majority of people don't give a damn about semantics, the whole thing looks insidious as fuck (and you can't deny it), that's all people care about. It will always be seen as a really nasty "pastime".
 

Forever Sunrise

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I watch a lot of anime (mostly action stuff and the odd comedy) and I find it really annoying how much the medium relies on underage sexuality as a source of titillation or humor. But I don't hate it because I think it constitutes child abuse. I hate it because it's bad fucking writing.

If these themes vanish from the anime/manga scene, I'd call it an entirely positive change. However, it's still not child abuse and should not be legally regarded as such. I'd argue that it's a form of child abuse to allow minors such easy access to this kind of thing but it's not child abuse in and of itself. Trying to call it child abuse just undermines the argument of the prosecution, as it more or less says they have to redefine established precedent in order to make it illegal.
 

ThePurpleProse

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I find lolis to be quite unnerving and rather not see lolis being drawn at all, but censoring anything it's grossly unnerving because sooner or later censors will go after the next thing.

Also this
As if censorship would stop pedos in anyway, exceptional individual.
The same way you can't stop a raper by castration (it will still fuck your ass with something else) you can't stop a pedo from diddling kiddos by banning drawings, it's re.tarded.
 

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