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Discussion in 'Art & Literature' started by Tragi-Chan, Aug 4, 2016.
Harley Quinn should've died tbh
I enjoy Grimm Tales of Terror if you're for that Tales from the Crypt-style story. Each volume comes in a "season" format and if you read it online on Comixology, I suggest doing the panel by panel format so it'll be more of a surprise.
Does Didio exist just to fuck up everything Johns and Morrison do for DC? Are we sure he isn't a Marvel plant?
Remember, this is the same dude who called Countdown "52 done right" and ruined the awesome Williams/Blackman run on Batwoman because he didn't want her to get married. Then he turns around and lets Tom King hitch Batman and Catwoman. He hired Chelsea for Vertigo.
Didio has fucked up Doomsday Clock in at least two ways. First by putting Bendis (lol at hiring Bendis) on Action Comics and now with Heroes in Crisis.
Writers like Johns and Morrison write shit that people actually want to read. I can tolerate King, Didio, and even Bendis so long as they don't fuck with things that are actually good.
Wait a minute what
Anybody read bande-desinee that isn't Asterix and Tintin?
Lucky Luke, Gaston Lagaffe, Bill et Boule, Blake et Mortimer, Tunique Blue comes to mind (Bill et Boule is not funny)
Yep. He even would go ranting about how much he hated 52 while it was being done. (Assuming what Linkara said was true.) As for comics I've been reading, Strangers in Paradise has new story that takes place a few years after the series ended (it's called Strangers in Paradise XXV). It's a good jumping point and even has a character or two (from some of his other series) guest star in it.
Apart from Tintin and Astérix, Spirou et Fantasio, Lucky Luke, Boule et Bille, Gaston Lagaffe, Isabelle, Natacha, Iznougood, Yoko Tsuno, Olivier Rameau, Chlorophylle, Les 4 as, La Ribambelle, La patrouille des castors, Johan et Pirlouit, Les Schtroumpfs and Les Tuniques Bleus are the "classic" BD series I remember having read. Lou!, Titeuf, Seuls, Cédric, L'Élève Ducobu and L'Arabe du futur are the only modern BD series I've read more than one volume of. Note that some of these probably haven't been translated into English
Johns did have at least one problem, i can understand not liking Batman but he wrote him like such a raging asshole (Saying to Superman he only) but he wrote him really Ooc and Morrison helped in making Jason Todd an edgelord for years
Judd Winick brought Jason back, Morrison wrote him, but Scott Lobdell has had creative control of Jason for like eight years now and refuses to do anything compelling with him.
Anyone ever read Vasco? I'm not sure it counts as bande-desinee, but that was sure some trippy shit for a random American kid to be getting an eyeful of. Asterix was fucking awesome, though.
Hey does anyone know any good recommendations for comics especially stuff not from Marvel and DC or older stuff from the two?
If you want an older Marvel comic, I suggest Strikeforce Morituri. It's about an alien invasion that hits earth and there's a thing called Morituri Process that can give you powers to fight the aliens. The only problem is that you only get a year to live. These likable characters have to handle this cruel fact, yet also are treated like celebrities for their heroism.
Sounds like an actual firing, too, not one of those "You goofed but don't make a mess on the way out and we won't blackball you" deals.
these idiots wanted to get people fired so they can have fun getting fired too. no survivors.
I heard he was writing Vader comics so how was he fucking up before this great news?
I disagree on that last part, Todd has or was better with Bizarro and that Amazon from the less well known tribe (Bana Something) and his relationship with Bruce and Dick Grayson come to mind as having gotten better
Wending went full exceptional individual screeching about how civility was letting the right eat Mexican babies
For like a year during college I really got into DC Comics, I think reading /co/ got me into it although I was reading some books in senior year of high school. I loved the Mythology, I really loved how just huge the universe was and a goofy character could appear in a story and I’d find out that character has existed since the 50s.
One example would be in an Issue of Gotham City Sirens, the heroes (Catwoman, Poison Ivy, and Harley) start a fighting The Joker, but it turns out it’s not the real Joker but a silly midget named Gaggy, a character who appeared only once in a Golden Age comic. I just loved that the good writers cared about the past, they did their homework.
Then New-52 came out and said “We’re rebooting DC”, going back to Issue 1 and Batman’s a young guy again and I sperged out, like all that free time I spent learning about silly fiction just got thrown in the trash.
How was I to act this way and were there others who felt similar? I remember chatting with the Comic Book Guy at my LCS and even then he made me feel silly. But since then I never bought another single issue and only picked up a few Tradebacks as a result. I even stopped reading /co/ but that’s also because Bronys and Tumblr killed that place.
Considering New 52 was hated by pretty much everyone who wasn't shilling for it, you were not alone. I wasn't following DC much at the time, but like almost everything DiDio does (like he's doing again with Rebirth now, after it was beloved for 2 years) was against fans' wishes and best interests and ended up feeding a lot of resentment.
You are also right about /co/, but 8chan /co/ is still decent. They hate pretty much everything, but at least they aren't Tumblr 2.
New 52 was pretty bad, though if you were worried about continuity it was honestly hit or miss whether the old continuity applied. That was part of what made it so bad, it had all the problems of still sometimes shouldering the old continuity with the added mess of brand-new continuity. Some of which didn't even stay consistent among titles featuring the same characters. I remember some of the writers complaining about a general lack of communication whenever they tried to ask the official status of characters, both with what was relevant from previous continuity and what was happening in the current titles.
It wasn't all garbage, but off the top of my head I'm having a hard time remembering which ones were okay. I think some of the Batman comics, which is hard to narrow down because there were four active bat titles, plus all the bat family stuff. I seem to remember a lot of cancellations and new number 1's coming out to add to the overall chaotic nature. Rebirth is a lot better, but it does feel like DiDio is trying to tarnish it. Synder has been getting a lot of praise for his stuff with Batman and JL. I honestly found it an incomprehensible mess and felt like, for lack of a better term, it was "too comicy" and I say this as someone who enjoyed the pre-Infinite Crisis JL comics which really leaned into some of the crazier parts of comics.