SRS and GRS surgeons and associated horrors - the medical community of experimental surgeons, the secret community of home butchers

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Gar For Archer

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FtM top surgery chest abscess found on r/popping this morning. Apparently she went to one of the resident butchers in this thread, Dr. Gallagher, and claims their father is a doctor (he must be so proud!). Much headpats and "omg grats duuuude" followed instead of usual r/popping discussion because of course all things must be about the troon.

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lol niggas got THREE!!! nipples
 

Gaia Soraka

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FtM top surgery chest abscess found on r/popping this morning. Apparently she went to one of the resident butchers in this thread, Dr. Gallagher, and claims their father is a doctor (he must be so proud!). Much headpats and "omg grats duuuude" followed instead of usual r/popping discussion because of course all things must be about the troon.

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SHE FUCKING SNIFFED IT
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I'm going to barf.
 

Constellationzero

MAPP gas huffer
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FtM top surgery chest abscess found on r/popping this morning. Apparently she went to one of the resident butchers in this thread, Dr. Gallagher, and claims their father is a doctor (he must be so proud!). Much headpats and "omg grats duuuude" followed instead of usual r/popping discussion because of course all things must be about the troon.

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AHHHH!

NO, PEETZ!! PEETZ!!
 

behindyourightnow

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Jesus Christ, I guess a strange part of me was proud that nothing here had ever caused a strong physical disgust reaction, but I just saw the sniffing thing and that did it, I guess the lolcows finally won out. You win, random FtM on Reddit, well played.

This is old and has likely been posted before but I did not realize FtMs also had to deal with chunks of hair in internal structures where there should not be hair. Bonus 'random ligament sticking out of forearm' prize as well. It's not like hands are that important anyway, right?

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I would chose death. I'd rather have a quick death than having my genitals multilated, an ugly flesh roll attached to my crotch, infections, necrosis, hair on and inside (!) the fake dick and so on. The fake dick abomination would lead to suicide sooner or later anyway so better make it quick & just pull the trigger.
Look, I was just trying to come up with a hypothetical situation to justify a preference in phalloplasty methods, I wasn't really trying to make a statement about whether death or SRS is better.

Although, I do like the idea of a gunman patiently waiting next to me while I sit through several months' worth of pre-phalloplasty laser hair removal, talk to doctors, get my surgery delayed due to covid, work out details with my insurance... I'd like to think we would be friends by the end of it.
 

YoungHustle

💊 edgy 🏳️‍🌈 gay 🧠 not okay
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Although, I do like the idea of a gunman patiently waiting next to me while I sit through several months' worth of pre-phalloplasty laser hair removal, talk to doctors, get my surgery delayed due to covid, work out details with my insurance... I'd like to think we would be friends by the end of it.
Maybe the real fake dicks attached to us were the friends we made along the way
 

Gaia Soraka

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Went to check on the thread this morning, and she got bombarded with awards for her stunning bravery.
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Mods also had to step in, banning anyone who even questionned the surgery for "transphobia".
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I wouldn't blame anyone for questionning her surgery, seeing as her post history is full of gay fetish "art", most posted to the subreddit ObeyMeNSFW. Apparently this is some kind of gay dating simulator with demons thrown in the mix.
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Her mc looks shockingly similar to her... or, at least, how I imagine she percieves herself.
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There are many, many more drawings that I couldn't be arsed to look at. Another thing I wanted to share was this comment:
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The lack of self-awareness is insane.

TL;DR: Definitely not a fetish, guys! I'm a Real Boy!
 

Peaches Demure

*stress sigh*
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Vingle

I'm Kaito Momota, Luminary of the Stars! 百田 解斗
True & Honest Fan
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This poor unfortunate troon went in for a lip lift and was botched so badly he now permanently looks like the Joker.
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Even his fellow troons don't attempt to hugbox him with various iterations of "looks great!"

I actually find this hilarious :story:
 

keyboredsm4shthe2nd

Youscatgetouttahereg-go-gogetthestick-getouttahere
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This poor unfortunate troon went in for a lip lift and was botched so badly he now permanently looks like the Joker.
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Even his fellow troons don't attempt to hugbox him with various iterations of "looks great!"

And yet it's only after they get mutilated they tell the hugbox to knock it off with the recursive lies.
 

Hurgle Blurk

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TL;DR: Definitely not a fetish, guys! I'm a Real Boy!

Proving that not all TIFs are trauma-based.

This poor unfortunate troon went in for a lip lift and was botched so badly he now permanently looks like the Joker.

This is the sort of thing that would, under normal circumstances, lead to a fairly serious malpractice suit. Sadly for The Joker, however, I suspect that he shopped for the cheapest surgeon he could find. And, then, on top of going for thrift, signed an entire ledger of papers restricting him to private arbitration at best.
 

ash9990

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Post inspired by Kevin "amhole" Gibes announcing his upcoming gynaecologist appointment. I did some googling and found this "guide" from Boston Hospital's Division of Gynecology (2021) meant for gynechologists to read so they can treat neovaginas and its a complete joke. I'm not talking about the whole article here, read it for yourself, but I've highlighted the interesting parts.

Terms:
PIV = penis inversion vaginoplasty
Keratinized epithelium = skin composed of numerous layers of dead squamous cells, part of the epidermis or external skin. Note: Vaginas are made of non-Keratinized epithelium, which is lined with mucous membranes as a protective and lubricative layer.

Introduction:
Increasing provider training, insurance coverage, and accessibility has allowed more transgender and gender-diverse (TGD) patients to undergo gender affirming surgery than ever before. The most common gender-affirming vaginoplasty sought by transfeminine persons is the penile inversion vaginoplasty (PIV).1,2 The 2015 United States Transgender Survey (a national survey of the experiences of 27,715 transgender adults) noted 66% of transfeminine respondents had or desired to undergo a vaginoplasty.

The gynecologists’ scope of practice includes the pelvic health of all persons with vaginas. As such, gynecologists must understand the typical physiology and postoperative anatomy of patients who have undergone PIV to provide competent care.4 TGD persons report a lack of clinician knowledge as a barrier to receiving appropriate care.3 Gynecologists themselves (both who do and do not care for TGD patients) have identified education in TGD reproductive health as a current need.5,6 Limited research exists on long-term complications and outcomes regarding PIV— most studies only follow patients a few months to a few years postoperatively, focus primarily on complications, and are not positioned to provide long-term pelvic health guidance or robust instruction on typical examination findings.7,8 Thus, a need exists for experienced guidance.

Our institutions have multidisciplinary transgender surgical teams (urologists, plastic surgeons, and gynecologists) who perform and care for patients who have undergone vaginoplasties. At our institutions, gynecologists are the primary clinicians for long-term pelvic care of patients who have undergone PIV. This clinical opinion originates from our expertise of providing care for high volumes of these patients and incorporates existing literature when present. The aim is to empower other gynecologists to provide this care by offering guidance regarding the neovulvar and neovaginal examination.

---So basically, gynecologists have to read this 5 page "how to" (yes, it's literally 5 pages long, excluding the reference list) to give post-op trannies the care they need because they have VaGiNas now, although urologists and the surgeons who perform this procedure are better educated in penile inversion and they are the ones that diagnose and treat post-op complications (from what I've read ITT). Before they get into the actual how-to examination of a stinkditch, they give a brief (very brief and very Frankenstein) description of the actual penile inversion surgery:

The Procedure
Appreciating the postoperative anatomy after a PIV requires a basic understanding of the procedure (Figure 1).9,10 Before the procedure, patients undergo hair removal of the penile shaft and medial scrotum to decrease the risk of persistent hair inside the neovagina. The only permanent hair removal method is electrolysis; however, patients may use laser if electrolysis is unavailable.
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The procedure begins with perineal skin incisions followed by a bilateral orchiectomy (Figure 1, A and B). The perineal and scrotal skin is removed and used as a full-thickness skin graft for the neovagina. The penile skin is degloved with the glans preserved for clitoroplasty (Figure 1, B). The neurovascular bundle is dissected and the erectile tissue removed (Figure 1, C). The neurovascular bundle supplying the neoclitoris is folded back on itself to allow for it to fall at an aesthetically accurate location at the level of the adductor longus tendon (Figure 1, D). The urethra is transected, spatulated, and sutured to the overlying skin (Figure 1, D).

For the neovaginal path, the perineum is dissected and the perineal body divided, releasing its fixation to the bulbar urethra. The path of the neovagina (typically 14 cm in length) is then developed in the plane between the Denonvilliers’ fascia (inferior to the urethra and prostate) and superior to the ventral rectal fascia, to the level of the perineal reflection (Figure 1, F). The scrotal skin is formed over a mold to create the distal neovagina and sewn to the penile skin (Figure 1, C). The skin tube is inverted into the previously developed plane to create the neovagina (Figure 1, E). All wounds are then closed, using existing tissues to create the labia (Figure 1, E).
Immediately after the procedure, dilation protocols are initiated (Tables 1 and 2) to maintain the vaginal patency while the patient is healing. Most complications occur during this time and are reviewed elsewhere.1,7,8,11 The examination addressed here is for care after the acute postoperative period.

--- So, gynos are given the contradiction that the amhole is dilated to "maintain vaginal patency" (lol) while the patient is also "healing" 🤔
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Creating a Welcoming Space
Any pelvic examination requires a trauma-informed and patient-centered approach.14,15 This approach recognizes that potential past trauma can influence patient experiences of medical care. The physical and sexual trauma experienced by TGD persons and intentional or inadvertent maltreatment by medical providers are well documented.3 Clinicians should be sensitive to the impact of their own implicit bias, potential gender dysphoria, and past trauma experienced by the patient and discuss with them in advance all the components of the examination. Furthermore, patients should be informed that they are in control of the examination and asked how the examination can be made safer and more comfortable.11,16 Finally, clinicians should ascertain patients’ chosen terminology for their anatomy and respect these terms; when possible, consideration should be given to the use of these terms during the examination.

-- Translation: please avoid an IT'S MA'AAAM situation. Play along with their delusion. You have to examine their amholes true and honest vaginas, meaning it's your job to discover signs and symptoms of X, but make sure you are not offending them in anyway first.

Now, to the "how-to " examination. This is all the information you need as a gynecologist! Remember, as they said in the introduction, gynecologists are responsible for the long term post-op after care. As long as the butcherers don't have to deal with the mess they have created, it's all good :)

The Examination
As with persons with native vaginas and those who have undergone other forms of vaginoplasty, the genitalia of persons who have undergone PIV vary greatly. Examples of examination findings and general anatomic position of genital structures are labeled in Figure 2. Each section below addresses expected physiological changes and pathologic findings that may occur, with key pathologies summarized in Table 3.
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(scrotal skin) (scrotal skin) (scrotal skin) (scrotal skin) (penile skin) :story::story::story:
Vulva
The examination of the vulva includes a thorough visual inspection moving anteriorly to posteriorly. The labia majora, which are constructed from the scrotal skin, may have rugae as is typical of the scrotum (Figure 2, A). Suture lines running anteriorly to posteriorly along the labia majora are often visible (Figure 2, A). When the labia majora are separated, the labia minora, urethra, and clitoris can be evaluated. The labia minora are constructed from the scrotal skin (Figure 2, A) and the clitoris from the penile glans (Figure 2, B). The urethral orifice is inferior to the clitoris. There is often a greater distance between the clitoris and urethra in a person who has undergone PIV than someone with a native clitoris.
Because the neovulvar tissues are scrotal, they carry the same risk for lesions and infections. Herpes, condyloma, syphilitic chancre, and chancroid are all possible infectious pathologies, and lesions suspicious for these should be evaluated and treated as per standard guidance.18 The human papillomavirus (HPV) can also infect the scrotal skin, so it is possible to develop genital warts. HPV-related cancer has been found on the scrotal tissue.19 We recommend HPV vaccination to all patients at the age of 45 years.20 The scrotal skin can also carry the risk of dermatoses such as psoriasis, eczema, or lichen sclerosus.21,22 Any visible or concerning lesion should be biopsied and followed up appropriately. Colposcopic assistance is reasonable.Patients may also present with cosmetic concerns regarding the labia.8 Postoperative healing may result in the labia majora spaced far apart or minimal labia minora or clitoral hood.11 These should be referred to a surgeon who specializes in PIV.

-- Their genitals are mangled, as seen in the horrifying image above. How can a gynecologist possibly identify "concerning" skin lesions and and STI's (more on STI infection vs wound infection below)? Troons can easily go down to the nearest STI clinic, go to a bathroom, swab their stinkditches for herpes or whatever, take a blood test, and get results within 1 week instead of wasting time and resources. It's also kind of rich that they expect gynecologists to note cosmetic concerns and report them to the butcherer.

Vagina
We recommend beginning a vaginal examination with a digital examination using a single digit to assess the length and path of the neovagina and to palpate the pelvic floor musculature for tenderness or spasm or to palpate the bladder or prostate for tenderness. An anoscope rather than a speculum can be considered, although a speculum is a more accessible tool and most patients tolerate the average Pederson speculum. We recommend discussing with the patient which size tool may be appropriate.13 The clinician should examine the entire length of the vagina beginning at the apex and moving distally. Because the neovagina comprises keratinized stratified squamous tissue, it is less elastic than the epithelium of a native vagina.
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Patients who have undergone PIV require lifelong dilation of the vagina (Table 2). Of note, PIV dilators are typically larger than those routinely used in other neovaginal surgeries and are not meant to be left in overnight.23 After surgery, patients should be dilating more frequently (Table 2). Many PIV surgeons have specific protocols. Routine gynecologic care of these patients includes evaluation and support of dilation care. This includes assessing the depth and width of the vagina as the patient tapers down their dilation schedule to ensure no diminishment of either and eliciting the patient’s dilation history and personal experience of progress or regression. A common long-term finding is the loss of length.7 If loss of either width or length is found, increasing the dilation frequency is recommended.11 Any persistent pain or blockage with dilation or insertional intercourse should be addressed with a surgeon skilled in PIV. Webbing across the vagina or stricture may need to be surgically addressed.1 Physical therapy or botulinum toxin injections may be recommended depending on a surgeon’s assessment.

--As if gynechologists would be skilled enough to detect and diagnose these complications only a wound or skin specialist can recognize... They have shifted the supervision (?) of dilation and complications from the surgeon to the gynechologist it seems.

When assessing dilation, the dilator should be inserted into the full depth of the vagina with moderate pressure felt. We describe dilation techniques in greater detail in Table 3. For those who have lost length or width, a soft silicone dilator may be used because they are better tolerated with scar tissues.1 In contrast to a native vagina where douching is contraindicated and can increase the infection risk, a PIV neovagina contains keratinized epithelium and does not self-clean. As such, routine cleaning is recommended (eg, douching 2e3 times per week) to maintain hygiene and minimize buildup in the canal (including lubrication during dilation or intercourse, semen from intercourse, sebum, or dead-skin sloughing). No publications address the optimal approach to douching for a PIV neovagina. We generally recommend a nonscented douche. Soap, water, and vinegar or 25% povidone-iodine are other suggested regimens.11 Douching frequency may need to be increased in patients who have increased discharge or odor. Clinicians should assess for other causes (eg, infections, lesions, or granulation tissue) when douching does not resolve the discharge.

Granulation tissue (Figure 2, B) is a common postoperative finding and may be the cause of bleeding, discharge, or pain complaints.7,8 It can be exacerbated by repeated trauma from dilation or insertional intercourse. In cases that do not self-heal, we recommend considering silver nitrate as the first-line treatment. Alternatives include low-potency topical or intralesional steroids or surgical excision, possibly by the original surgeon, as per standard approaches for granulation tissue.24,25

The keratinized stratified squamous epithelium of the PIV neovagina is colonized with skin flora and some vaginal species.26 Bacterial vaginosis, herpes, condyloma, syphilitic chancre, and chancroid are all possible infectious pathologies. The University of California San Francisco (UCSF) Center of Excellence for Transgender Health guidelines note (and which our experiences are in agreement) discharge is less commonly an infectious etiology in patients who have undergone PIV compared with patients with native vaginas.11

Current data have not shown low pH in the neovagina compared with native vaginas.11 Only a few cases of Candida have been reported.27 Limited data exist regarding the transmission of gonorrhea and chlamydia in a person after PIV; the keratinized epithelium is likely more resistant to these infections.28 However, urethral tissue can still become infected with these microbes, manifesting in either urethritis (explained in the Additional considerations section) or a neovaginal infection if the urethral tissue was used in its construction.26,29 No published data address HIV transmission specific to PIV, although the prevalence of HIV in the broader transfeminine population in the United States is high (27.7%).3

--How can a gynecologist differentiate between a neovagina that is infected with an STI/yeast infection or if it's a would infection? They are trained to recognize signs and symtoms in vaginas, not open wounds. Anyone else feel like this is too much additional work for a gyno? They are already treating women, now they have to assess butchered male genitals, the hygiene routines to clean inside, detect granulation tissue, infections and leisons (beyond STIs).

For STI screening in patients after PIV, The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention guidelines on special populations recommend using anatomy specific, rather than gender-specific, approaches.18 The UCSF guidelines concur and add that the role of vaginal swabs for gonorrhea and chlamydia in a person after PIV is unknown, and as such, a urine test may be more valuable. These guidelines also recommend testing for any symptomatic patient with orifice-specific consideration depending on the patient’s sexual history.18 Patients who have undergone PIV do not have a cervix and thus do not require routine Pap smears. Cancer risk is primarily related to skin cancers of the penile or scrotal skin.30,31 Case reports have reported squamous carcinoma in neovaginas after PIV.32 Penile skin is also a known reservoir for HPV. As such, vaginal neoplasia similar to HPV-related penile cancer could theoretically develop.33 Just as with the neovulva, these tissues also carry the same risk for dermatosis that can affect the penile and scrotal skin such as psoriasis, eczema, or lichen sclerosus. Any visible or concerning lesion should be biopsied. Colposcopic assistance is reasonable.

--So much for the "vagina" heading 😒

Despite undergoing hair removal before surgery, some patients have residual pubic hair in the vagina, which may present along the entire length. This can cause pain during sexual penetration or dilation and may become infected or ingrown.38 We recommend referring to a skilled electrologist for the management of bothersome hair. Referral to a surgeon skilled in PIV for counseling is also appropriate.

Fistulas may occur owing to trauma or injury and are mostly identified in the intraoperative or immediate postoperative period.7,8,13,29 The most common is a rectovaginal fistula (0.5% e17%).1,7,8 Presentation, even if immediately identified, may include flatus or stool passage from the vagina. Urethral or bladder fistulas are far less common (0.8%e3.9%) and may present with complaints of incontinence, leakage of vaginal liquid, or persistent discharge.8,39 Owing to their presentation timing, it will be less likely that gynecologists providing long-term pelvic health will encounter these scenarios and they should be referred to a surgeon skilled in PIV.7,8
--Sure... How many SRS patients develop a fistula? Nice way to downplay the issue. As long as the butcherers aren't seeing these patients, it's all good.

Additional Considerations (additional? more like new, never before seen complicaitons from experimental surgery)

Voiding complaints are not uncommon in patients after PIV. Some studies report that one-quarter to one-half of patients may experience diverted streams, voiding dysfunction (including overactive bladder and incomplete emptying), and recurrent urinary tract infections (UTIs), in part owing to a shortened urethra.1 Gynecologists should treat uncomplicated UTIs as per standard approach in cisgender female. However, those who have recurrent UTIs should be evaluated by a gender-affirming urologist for urethral stricture.11,40 Gonorrhea or chlamydia can cause urethritis, because the use of urethral mucosa for reconstructive purposes creates environments particularly susceptible to these microbes.26,29 It is appropriate to refer all other voiding concerns to a gender-affirming urogynecologist or urologist.1

"gender-affirming urologist" :story:

Some patients may experience pain associated with residual erectile tissue because it can become engorged with arousal. It may be palpable on a digital examination. Residual erectile tissue would typically be found in the labia majora but may be deeper in the vagina. If the patient is experiencing pain predominately with arousal and no erectile tissue is palpated, a T2-weighted magnetic resonance imaging may confirm its presence.39 If it is present, they should be referred to a surgeon skilled in PIV.

Pelvic pain with dilation or insertional intercourse may also be caused by muscle spasms or vaginismus. The pelvic floor muscles are separated at the time of surgery to create the vaginal canal path. Patients who have undergone PIV may experience pelvic floor dysfunction just as patients with a native vagina, and the pelvic floor musculature may be assessed on an endovaginal digital examination as in cisgender patients. The authors encourage collaborative care with the growing number of gender-affirming pelvic floor physical therapists.41

Neovaginal prolapse may also occur (rates range from 1% to 7.5%) and present early or late. Some surgeons have reported placing suspensory sutures proactively during PIV (including into the Denonvilliers’ fascia or prerectal fascia or through the sacrospinous ligament). However, this is not yet a common practice.42,43 Only surgeons skilled in vaginal prolapse or PIV should attempt these repairs. Consideration may be made for sacrospinous fixation or sacrocolpopexy.1

--Finally, something the gynos don't have to do.

In general, patients should not experience decreased tissue sensitivity because this vaginoplasty technique preserves major sensory nerves.44 However, gender-affirming hormone therapy and orchiectomy may decrease libido in some patients.45 We recommend referring to clinicians skilled in managing gender-affirming hormone therapy or in medical and psychological support for low libido.

Ok? Why would gynos consider their tissue sensitivity and libido? Also, Kevin "amhole" Gibes begs to differ.

The prostate remains in situ after PIV and is located along the neovaginal anterior wall. Just as with routine pelvic examinations, a great deal has changed regarding the necessity for routine prostate screening examination. Current guidelines do not endorse routine examinations in asymptomatic cisgender male patients for the sole detection of prostate cancer.46 Furthermore, antiandrogens and estrogens may reduce prostate cancer risk and benign prostatic hypertrophy (BPH), which may decrease a transfeminine person’s lifetime risk of development.47 In an asymptomatic patient, we do not recommend routine examination. However, for a patient experiencing urinary or other complaints for whom a prostatic evaluation would be recommended, an experienced examiner should perform an endovaginal examination of the prostate, because the new vaginal canal may affect the direct rectal assessment. On the endovaginal examination, the clinician should palpate the posterior aspect of the lateral lobes and the groove of the median sulcus.48 A normal prostate is approximately 2.5 cm in diameter and feels smooth, round, rubbery, and nontender. A boggy, tender, or enlarged prostate may be concerning for infection. In BPH, the prostate is symmetrically enlarged, and there may be obliteration of the median sulcus. Further examination information can be found in any basic textbook of physical examination.48 Because many gynecologists may have less experience with the prostate examination, patients may be referred to another practitioner.

Endovaginal examination of the prostate??? The fuck 🤨 Also, nice end to the paragraph there regarding prostate exams: "look it up yourself".

Conclusion
Gynecologists may provide care for individuals after PIV gender-affirming surgery and thus should learn about the anatomy resulting from such surgeries. This appreciation of anatomy will aid in the provision of the gynecologic examination for transfeminine patients after PIV. By learning to perform this examination, gynecologists can offer a wider spectrum of care and create an affirming environment for a marginalized population.

I hope gynecologists who have to do this are paid a heck a lot more than they are now if they have to be responsible for long term post-op care of amholes. This was an inevitable development tbh. Butcherers wanting to avoid their patients so what's better than shifting that responsibility? The AGPs don't mind, as Kevin said in linked post above, seeing the gynechologist is an euphoric experience :)
 

toilet_rainbow

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I didn't know whether to rate that gynecologist guide as Islamic Content, Lunacy, or Horrifying. "JFC" would've worked best, but that's not a rating. PL but at one point I seriously considered being a OBGYN because I've always been interested in women's health. This is not women's health. This is playing along with a delusion. I feel so sorry for gynos being forced to look at shit filled surgical wounds that are mockeries of true and honest vaginas. I'm pretty sure that if I went down that educational path that I'd lost my medical license over this shit.

That abscess video was nasty. She should've had a doctor do that. Also fuck her for turning fucking r/popping of all things into a political battleground.
 

Crepidodera fulvicornis

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@ash9990 have ye medal for this thoroughly reviewed text, but what the fuck.
Penile inversion VAGINISMUS? some gynos are less experienced in the prostate examination? Gee, I wonder why. Are dentists inexperienced with vagina examination too? The mouth and vagina both have a mucous membrane; problem, doc? *trollface*
Give those fuckers Cusco’s speculum; they are true and honest after all, not some virgin girl who need digital examination; they got their PIV to have PIV, right?

Fuck, I'd refuse to work under such regulations. If you want gynos to risk their job, license and reputation, provide them fully paid education on andro, but hey, we already have general practitioners; you can't be a specialist in different spheres only to care for someone who wants to call their pancreas a uterus.


Fuck, this is pure degeneracy.
 

Sinner's Sandwich

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The gyno guide is just wishful thinking. It's not going to happen the way they want. The gynos are just going to say the mangled troons have to go back to their butchers. Also they don't have to treat troons. They can if they want but no sane person should ever chose that. Just reading this horrible guide is going to make them say "Hell NO!" Also how many "gender affirming" urologists are there? Troon asskisser's plans are garbage as always.

They are probably coming for urologists next so they can "help" ftm troons with armflesh "dicks".
 

remiem

The Lost Temple
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The gyno guide is just wishful thinking. It's not going to happen the way they want. The gynos are just going to say the mangled troons have to go back to their butchers. Also they don't have to treat troons. They can if they want but no sane person should ever chose that. Just reading this horrible guide is going to make them say "Hell NO!" Also how many "gender affirming" urologists are there? Troon asskisser's plans are garbage as always.

They are probably coming for urologists next so they can "help" ftm troons with armflesh "dicks".

I know we all love to talk about the poor gynos and frankly I hope most of them just take money from these exams, take a brief look, and tell them to go back to their surgeon because there's nothing they can do. Make up a 'Troon validation fee' for the time wasted because it's not a vagina and never will be so there's nothing they can do.

Can we take a moment to imagine being a urologist though? their study is the penis. You get a MTF come in whose 'life saving surgery' is literally what your worse case scenario is for 90% of your other patients. They can't really help either because their study is for an organ that is no longer there and has been essentially taxiderm-ed into a gaping hole in their groin.
 

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