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@CatParty found this article based on an interview that Leslye Headland had with The AV Club which reveals that the writers hired for The Acolyte weren’t fans of the movies.
Seriously Ghostbusters, Walker Trxas Ranger and Powerpuff girls and now this. What's with hiring writers who hate source material of the reboots/Sequels they are in charge of making?
Not a surprise that man is almost 80 years old!! Unlike Clint Eastwood with the Dirty Harry movies. Ford doesn't realized that he is getting too old for this shit yet. He should have done what Eastwood did when he hit 70 and just start to doing less acting and more directing. But no got bust a hip trying to run
 

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Seriously Ghostbusters, Walker Trxas Ranger and Powerpuff girls and now this. What's with hiring writers who hate source material of the reboots/Sequels they are in charge of making?
Beside nepotism, trying to hire the cheapest possible option or making sure that the movie is conforming to the Hollywood spreadsheet, I have no idea.
 

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Seriously Ghostbusters, Walker Trxas Ranger and Powerpuff girls and now this. What's with hiring writers who hate source material of the reboots/Sequels they are in charge of making?

I'll let with this: the answer is that it is easier and better to find a non-fan. These people are willing to take on a property they know nothing about, so that means they will do whatever asked by the higher ups. No one will object to having it be revealed Leia was born a man and only indentified as a Princess because no one will know to object. In that article linked, the showrunner is the undisputed arbiter of reality - they are in complete control and shut anyone they want to down by saying "that's not true in Star Wars" and no one can argue with them about it. Cheap people you have undisputed power over, that's the real reason.

The EXCUSE they are using, which has been used, concept of it has some basis in merit: You want outsider, "non-fan" perspectives. I.E. If we want to attract people outside the Fandom so we can have diverse (collection of paypigs) and inclusive (of all sort of wallets).
If you fill the spiderman writers room full of spiderman superfans, they won't understand why people don't know who Wilbur Day is.

But they are of course fucking it up. You don't fill a room with people who are ambivalent at best and usually hostile to a property. You have maybe one dissenter in the writers room to keep everyone grounded. You need to make a product for your fans first and then try to bring outsiders into the tent.

But of as we've gone over repeatedly, Star Wars fans are long known as the battered wives of consumer populations. doesn't matter how hard Disney rapes the property or talks about canon not mattering, you still have people simping and spending like good paypigs because they need to know how the saga ends (and then also go and buy the toys) or because TCW8/Blando/SJW Batch isn't a total dumpster fire, so they need to let Disney know they're still willing to consoome good media if they'd make it.

That's an important message to send because Kennedy is about to be fired any day. Seriously, she's already completely defanged and removed from any decision making processes. She's under full Disney lockdown. Her office underseige by 18 buff 501st legion storm troopers.
 
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I can't believe James Mangold (the director of Indy 5, for now) tried to spin people criticizing the absurdity of a damn near 80 year old man trying to do action scenes he did in his 30s as "ageism". It's funny that they can't play the race/gender card this time like they did for John Boyega and Kelly Marie Tran because Harrison Ford is a straight white male.

In all honesty a shoulder injury like that at his age could seriously fuck him up. It's a miracle what happened during TFA didn't really mess him up physically either.
 

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It's almost like if you're gonna do an Old Indy movie, you'd want to have him more as an advisor and not be the acrobatic one... Or you'd do the less mentally retarded idea and treat it as serials where you get new Indies like you'd do Bonds.

Not that I'd expect modern Hollyweird to do the new Indiana like how you'd get new James Bond right.
 

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It's almost like if you're gonna do an Old Indy movie, you'd want to have him more as an advisor and not be the acrobatic one... Or you'd do the less mentally retarded idea and treat it as serials where you get new Indies like you'd do Bonds.
Kennedyfilm completely butchered the "wise old mentor trope" with Han in TFA, Luke in TLJ, and Leia in the entire trilogy. You could almost argue Spielberg tried it in Kingdom of the Crystal Skull though. I don't think people would be ok with anyone but Ford being Indy though. I still have no idea why what's-his-face was even chosen for the Soylo movie other than (((nepotism))). That guy was a terrible Han Solo knockoff.
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Also, what is this movie even about? His battle with nursing home staff who are trying to force him to take his pills?
Some people have joked that since its been over 10 years since Indy 4 that it would place the movie in the 1960s, AKA the Civil Rights movement. Taking modern Disney into consideration, make of that what you will.
Exactly he could have done what Clint Eastwood did when he got old and start to direct movies. But instead he told us to fuck off. So if he hurts himself, it's on him.
Personally I find Ford's aloofness kind of grating now. I guess it worked in the 70s when he was a younger man and women found that to be an attractive personality trait, but he kind of comes off like a grumpy old asshole. I doubt he even likes acting anymore. At least Bruce Willis has bills to pay which explains why he's still doing direct to DVD bullshit. Ford has no excuse.
 

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Kennedyfilm completely butchered the "wise old mentor trope" with Han in TFA, Luke in TLJ, and Leia in the entire trilogy. You could almost argue Spielberg tried it in Kingdom of the Crystal Skull though. I don't think people would be ok with anyone but Ford being Indy though. I still have no idea why what's-his-face was even chosen for the Soylo movie other than (((nepotism))). That guy was a terrible Han Solo knockoff.

Some people have joked that since its been over 10 years since Indy 4 that it would place the movie in the 1960s, AKA the Civil Rights movement. Taking modern Disney into consideration, make of that what you will.

Personally I find Ford's aloofness kind of grating now. I guess it worked in the 70s when he was a younger man and women found that to be an attractive personality trait, but he kind of comes off like a grumpy old asshole. I doubt he even likes acting anymore. At least Bruce Willis has bills to pay which explains why he's still doing direct to DVD bullshit. Ford has no excuse.
Well that's on them, because Indy was done with Last Crusade as far as people wanting to do movies with the character and Ford being able to play him. I'm just highlighting the least retarded thing you could do is treat the character like James Bond if you are going to try and revive it, since I'd not be shocked if Ford dies during filming.

Fans might not want it, but fuck man, old Indy doesn't work if you're gonna force him to do action shit. Have him be the wise mentor if you absolutely had to; Spielburg kind of got that, but wanted to also have it be like a young Indy movie too.
 

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I can't believe James Mangold (the director of Indy 5, for now) tried to spin people criticizing the absurdity of a damn near 80 year old man trying to do action scenes he did in his 30s as "ageism". It's funny that they can't play the race/gender card this time like they did for John Boyega and Kelly Marie Tran because Harrison Ford is a straight white male.

In all honesty a shoulder injury like that at his age could seriously fuck him up. It's a miracle what happened during TFA didn't really mess him up physically either.

It's almost like if you're gonna do an Old Indy movie, you'd want to have him more as an advisor and not be the acrobatic one... Or you'd do the less mentally retarded idea and treat it as serials where you get new Indies like you'd do Bonds.

Not that I'd expect modern Hollyweird to do the new Indiana like how you'd get new James Bond right.

Kennedyfilm completely butchered the "wise old mentor trope" with Han in TFA, Luke in TLJ, and Leia in the entire trilogy. You could almost argue Spielberg tried it in Kingdom of the Crystal Skull though. I don't think people would be ok with anyone but Ford being Indy though. I still have no idea why what's-his-face was even chosen for the Soylo movie other than (((nepotism))). That guy was a terrible Han Solo knockoff.

Some people have joked that since its been over 10 years since Indy 4 that it would place the movie in the 1960s, AKA the Civil Rights movement. Taking modern Disney into consideration, make of that what you will.

Personally I find Ford's aloofness kind of grating now. I guess it worked in the 70s when he was a younger man and women found that to be an attractive personality trait, but he kind of comes off like a grumpy old asshole. I doubt he even likes acting anymore. At least Bruce Willis has bills to pay which explains why he's still doing direct to DVD bullshit. Ford has no excuse.
I think Clint Eastwood (sorry to bring him up again) said it best "No one wants to see a old man trying to run" when he was asked why he wouldn't do another Dirty Harry movie. Harrison is making a great example of his point.
 

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It's a miracle what happened during TFA didn't really mess him up physically either.
There was also that plane crash he had a year later. A miracle the guy can still limp around at all. But part of me wonders if Disney will try to turn this around to garner sympathy and pity points...
I can't believe James Mangold (the director of Indy 5, for now) tried to spin people criticizing the absurdity of a damn near 80 year old man trying to do action scenes he did in his 30s as "ageism". It's funny that they can't play the race/gender card this time like they did for John Boyega and Kelly Marie Tran because Harrison Ford is a straight white male.
They should've just had Ford take up the role of old Indy from Young Indiana Jones and just tell his son/daughter or Short Round where to find some amazing treasure if they desperately needed to have Indy in the film (then again we didn't need a new film in the first place...).
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But if they do that they can't kill him off dramatically for shock value I guess and Hollywood just loves killing the original heroes in horrible or lame ways for shock value, especially if it makes the shitty new protag look better by comparison...
 

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Indy 5 is a bomb waiting to happen.

Between Spielberg ditching the director’s chair, obvious internal conflicts within both Lucasfilm and Disney, Ford getting hurt and old, not to mention Mangold acting like a manchild, my bar is very low.

Believe me my niggas, I’m expecting the absolute worst.

There’s no way to spin this into something positive about it.
 

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