Steven Bonnell II / Destiny / Destiny.gg - Emotionally Unstable Manchild, Creeps on Teenagers, Incest Supporter

HonestJohn2376

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His rebuttal would be that he plans to genocide obligate carnivores in a way which causes them neither suffering nor premature death. It would involve neutering as it is performed regularly today.

My counter-rebuttal would be that his final solution still causes massive death, which is harmful even if there is no pain. The vegan would have to kill countless mammals, birds, reptiles, and insects to avoid suffering. This would ironically cause untold suffering in nature. Other creatures would overpopulate the planet, leading to mass starvation and extinction of even more animals as food runs out.

This doesn't even touch on omnivores. Because even these animals are "obligate carnivores". Bears, horses, and gorillas will not eat meat, not because they're making a moral commitment but because the opportunity to eat meat does not exist. When the chance presents itself, these animals eat meat as much as any other "obligate carnivore".
 
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GranDuke

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As far as cats go neutering is not as "nice" as it might sound at first. Cats tend to gain more weight after it, which naturally can lead to other health issues.

Either way if your "morality system" justifies genociding entire species (even if they won't feel pain) then you probably should see a shrink.
 

Itterasshai

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My counter-rebuttal would be that his final solution still causes massive death, which is harmful even if there is no pain. The vegan would have to kill countless mammals, birds, reptiles, and insects to avoid suffering. This would ironically cause untold suffering in nature. Other creatures would overpopulate the planet, leading to mass starvation and extinction of even more animals as food runs out.
When it comes to the herbivore population growing out of control, he has mentioned ‘mediating’ creatures. I imagine this would involve neutering some of them. Theoretically, an out; practically, unmanageable.

This doesn't even touch on omnivores. Because even these animals are "obligate carnivores". Bears, horses, and gorillas will not eat meat, not because they're making a moral commitment but because the opportunity to eat meat does not exist. When the chance presents itself, these animals eat meat as much as any other "obligate carnivore".
The vegan guy also brought up an idea of genetically modifying animals, presumably to not eat meat, but this idea is just as unimplementable as total population control through neutering.
 
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BubbleButt

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The vegan guy also brought up an idea of genetically modifying animals, presumably to not eat meat, but this idea is just as unimplementable as total population control through neutering.

And will probably be more inhumane and cause more suffering for animals. But whatever; Meat is murder!
 

HonestJohn2376

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When it comes to the herbivore population growing out of control, he has mentioned ‘mediating’ creatures. I imagine this would involve neutering some of them. Theoretically, an out; practically, unmanageable.


The vegan guy also brought up an idea of genetically modifying animals, presumably to not eat meat, but this idea is just as unimplementable as total population control through neutering.

In other words, vegan guy's philosophy is useless. It fails as a moral code in itself and cannot be put to practice.
 

Itterasshai

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Recently, Destiny and his orbiters have engaged in a bit of online warfare with a particular black streamer collective.
They got suspended on Twitch after talking about ‘fuckin’ coon-ass fuckin’ niggas on this fuckin’ Twitch’. They mentioned such streamers as PrimeCayes, treeoflogic, and Ahrelevant.
They posted a magnificent write-up, arguing that it was not a slur because they were speaking African-American Vernacular English, known as ‘Ebonics’ to the less linguistically-inclined, and in AAVE ‘coon’ has a different meaning than in Standard American English.
The Twitter shit-flinging that followed was rather entertaining.
 

SpergWatcher

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Recently, Destiny and his orbiters have engaged in a bit of online warfare with a particular black streamer collective.
They got suspended on Twitch after talking about ‘fuckin’ coon-ass fuckin’ niggas on this fuckin’ Twitch’. They mentioned such streamers as PrimeCayes, treeoflogic, and Ahrelevant.
They posted a magnificent write-up, arguing that it was not a slur because they were speaking African-American Vernacular English, known as ‘Ebonics’ to the less linguistically-inclined, and in AAVE ‘coon’ has a different meaning than in Standard American English.
The Twitter shit-flinging that followed was rather entertaining.

As much as this group is fucking bonkers, I do hope they create enough drama to make Twitch apply some sort of fucked up decision where they get unbanned on the grounds of them being a special and vulnerable group. That would rustle so many streamer jimmies, but knowing Twitch they'll probably stay silent.
 

Itterasshai

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As much as this group is fucking bonkers, I do hope they create enough drama to make Twitch apply some sort of fucked up decision where they get unbanned on the grounds of them being a special and vulnerable group. That would rustle so many streamer jimmies, but knowing Twitch they'll probably stay silent.
They were not banned. They had been suspended for seven days, and this suspension had expired.
 
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ColdOnes

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The conclusion of this thinking they discussed is that the sheer existence of obligate carnivores is unethical because they cannot help but cause suffering and death to their prey. Therefore, it would be desirable to, shall we say, genocide cats through preventing them from breeding.
Basically this guy did not pay attention to his science class when he was in primary school. Any person who has studied ecosystems and food webs will tell you arbritrarily killing off predators is a terrible idea as it would lead to an explosion of population of herbivores which will compete for shortage of resources and end up destroying a once healthy ecosystem.

When it comes to the herbivore population growing out of control, he has mentioned ‘mediating’ creatures. I imagine this would involve neutering some of them. Theoretically, an out; practically, unmanageable.

The vegan guy also brought up an idea of genetically modifying animals, presumably to not eat meat, but this idea is just as unimplementable as total population control through neutering.
Population control is hard. The species that people try to neuter often has insanely high reproduction rates to ensure survival. Just look at Australia, one century later and the rabbit issue is still a major headache.
 

lemonarm2

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Destiny went too far imo
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