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This is something that just came up on my mind, and feel free to call me ridiculous, but it's something I'm seriously considering if people could pull off somehow.

Let's just say something comes up (i.e. the woke pull off starting a communist state, etc) that starts a call for several more pro-capitalism states and reigons to pull out of the United States and form their own country. Would it work somehow, and would it last for very long? Seeing the current state of the Democratic Party, I don't think it would happen, but I just want your thoughts on this.
 

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I've always though there should be lots of states with a variety of governments to give choice, but states tend to centralize and conquer each other. We'll just have to settle with states rights for now
 

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This is something that just came up on my mind, and feel free to call me ridiculous, but it's something I'm seriously considering if people could pull off somehow.

Let's just say something comes up (i.e. the woke pull off starting a communist state, etc) that starts a call for several more pro-capitalism states and reigons to pull out of the United States and form their own country. Would it work somehow, and would it last for very long? Seeing the current state of the Democratic Party, I don't think it would happen, but I just want your thoughts on this.
The US will probably split by through changing Democrat county groups into new states.
 
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It would take a lot for a state to secede. They get a ton of federal benefits for its citizens for staying through programs. However, states should have the option to secede.

If you are a federalist country, and you don’t allow your states to leave the contract, that’s like a marriage where only the wife can’t decide to divorce, and so the husband can mistreat her any way he wants. Have a parade of hookers leave their bedroom, make her a human dishwasher, even forget her birthday.

Anyway it gives states the ability to negotiate because it is in fact a two-way relationship between state and federal. Both strengthenting the other.
 

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This is something that just came up on my mind, and feel free to call me ridiculous, but it's something I'm seriously considering if people could pull off somehow.

Let's just say something comes up (i.e. the woke pull off starting a communist state, etc) that starts a call for several more pro-capitalism states and reigons to pull out of the United States and form their own country. Would it work somehow, and would it last for very long? Seeing the current state of the Democratic Party, I don't think it would happen, but I just want your thoughts on this.
it wouldn't work. pro-capitalist would seem them as nothing more than dictators stealing their wealth.

It wouldn't last half a month. Given it would require much labor to keep their infrastructure afloat and modern commies (white American trust fund kids from upper middle class) are fucking lazy as shit and expect gibs 24/7.

Also we can just manifest destiny their ass and take back the states with ease.
 

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E pluribus unum and "united we stand" not mean anything to you? If you want to destroy what's literally the greatest country on the planet (according to economic and military stats for the past century. the same ones which tell us what the shithole countries are) for some retarded commie or capitalist bullshit then you need to be thrown of a helicopter ASAP. Especially capitalism since killing the US for capitalism is literally what the globalist clique wants since they hate the idea of a single country having 1/4 the entire world's economy and ruling the world since the 1940s.

If you are a federalist country, and you don’t allow your states to leave the contract, that’s like a marriage where only the wife can’t decide to divorce, and so the husband can mistreat her any way he wants. Have a parade of hookers leave their bedroom, make her a human dishwasher, even forget her birthday.

You've confused "federation" with "confederation". Plus secession is for degenerates, like the slave owners in the South who loved to rape their slaves (plus were lazy as shit and didn't care about poor white people) or the modern literal fags behind Calexit.
 

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Shut up, nigger.
Dumb crackers fucked up their own economy by making it a Caribbean/Latin American shithole. Even slave owners knew most other slave owners were a bunch of degenerates. Like the rich guys who did nothing but raped their slaves (when they weren't having other slaves rape them) to get them pregnant just to have more slaves to sell to slave owners who actually could run a plantation. The Confederate States of America was the greatest shithole that never was.
 

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Dumb crackers fucked up their own economy by making it a Caribbean/Latin American shithole. Even slave owners knew most other slave owners were a bunch of degenerates. Like the rich guys who did nothing but raped their slaves (when they weren't having other slaves rape them) to get them pregnant just to have more slaves to sell to slave owners who actually could run a plantation. The Confederate States of America was the greatest shithole that never was.
Lol, like the north was better.
 

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The United States is an indivisible union. The period when we could have balkanized passed in the 1860's with the decisive defeat of the secessionist cause. At this point the US could conceivably entire periods of disunion. Much like China's warring States period. But the union of the American nation will remain paramount and even if we enter a period of civil conflict the goal of all the parties will be the inevitable reunification of the whole under their dominion.

America is in it for the long haul at this point. What we will look like centuries from now is an interesting question though. I expect it will be unrecognizable to us living here now. Hell, if we follow the standard model of Republics, eventually shit will hit the fan and a Monarchy will take over to restore order. If I was a betting man, the odds on best bet will be over the next 500 years the US democratic system will break down into warring factions. However, the vast majority of the US Population is fairly conservative and religious. More importantly though the "manifest destiny" doctrine is very much alive and well in America, and any effort to bring about disunion will run smack into it and empower anyone willing to restore order and the union.

Really far outside bet is restoration of the Union of the British Empire between America, Canada, and the UK under the crown of the house of Windsor. For such a thing to happen though would require major upheaval in all three countries, and the acknowledgement of the American portion as the senior realm.

Honestly would make for some great science fiction writing if we get right down to it

tl;dr, no, America will not balkanize. We can't. We are one American people despite the fervant desire of the Democratic Party to argue otherwise. They will get theirs for it though. Its already beginning.
 

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We could balkanize, but not with the current set of facts on the ground. Things would have to get bad- like, Venezuela bad- before places like Texas and California start saying "fuck it, we're outtie." However, I do think that once the first domino fell it would be a mad dash to the exit; it's been pointed out that one of the main things keeping secessionism from gaining momentum was Lincoln's resolve that nobody gets out of the Union except in a body bag.

Though frankly, I think it's naive to say that the defeat of the Confederacy "settled" the question of secession. How many times did the Irish secede before it actually took? The various Eastern Bloc states? There's a lot of precedent for waiting a few generations and trying again.
 

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Dumb crackers fucked up their own economy by making it a Caribbean/Latin American shithole. Even slave owners knew most other slave owners were a bunch of degenerates. Like the rich guys who did nothing but raped their slaves (when they weren't having other slaves rape them) to get them pregnant just to have more slaves to sell to slave owners who actually could run a plantation. The Confederate States of America was the greatest shithole that never was.
It was worse.

Did you know that during slavery the slave holders would buy male slaves to engage in forced homosexual sex acts?

These male slaves were purchase based entirely on the prerequisite of them possessing a large penis. Black men were routinely raped by their gay slave owners. The process was known as “breaking the buck.”

It involves a strapping Negro slave, who was defiant, was beaten with a whip till bloody in front of his entire slave congregation. The slave owner would cut down a tree and, with the help of the overseer, would then pummel the deviant “buck” into submission. Once the slave was worn down, the master had the other Negro slaves force him over the tree stump where his britches would be removed and he laid fully exposed buttocks, he would remove his own clothing and proceeded to savagely sodomize the buck in front his wife, family, friends, and children.

In order for his plan to take effect, he would require the buck’s male child to watch, front row center, so he too can witness his father’s sexual demise and humiliation. Buck Breaking was the slave master’s very effective tool to keep all young black slaves from ever being defiant and taking revenge. It also frightened the mother’s and wives from ever giving consent to an uprising. Buck Breaking was so successful that it was made into a “Sex Farm” where slave master could travel from plantation to plantation feeding their sadistic, homosexual needs.
 

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I mean personally I think that the federal government has far too much power. The United States should be just that, a union of self-governing and self-funding polities united by their proximity to one another. Unity is overrated.

rich guys who did nothing but raped their slaves (when they weren't having other slaves rape them) to get them pregnant just to have more slaves to sell to slave owners who actually could run a plantation. The Confederate States of America was the greatest shithole that never was.

And it was glorious. Don't impose your yankee values on me.
 
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