Sugar Daddies and Sugar Babies - Barely legal prostitutes in denial and their barely erectile-functioning johns

NoReturn

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Today I discovered /r/AskAnEscort. Let's see what the top posts are!
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What I like about this sub is that while it calls itself "Ask an escort" there is no pretense of "sugar" or a relationship. Everyone is openly discussing the subject as prostitution.
 

Devyn

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Blech. I've found compilations on YouTube:
And from reddit:
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Lol @ younger guys on a fucking prostitution website expecting the whores there to just be throwing themselves at them for free. They drank the Red Pill Kool-Aid and thought having money = "high status" = young, beautiful women will flock to you automatically, like groupies to a rockstar.

I recently saw this clip posted in another thread, it's a dominatrix responding to a video by Coach Red Pill and telling the blunt truth about this kind of stuff:

She's a degenerate whore like the others of course (and I don't agree with everything she says), but at least she doesn't lie to herself as much as they do. It's kind of refreshing, in a way.
 
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NoReturn

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Lol @ younger guys on a fucking prostitution website expecting the whores there to just be throwing themselves at them for free. They drank the Red Pill Kool-Aid and thought having money = "high status" = young, beautiful women will flock to you automatically, like groupies to a rockstar.
"But I have money! What do you mean I need to spend the money?!"

Have some TikToks

This is in response to someone calling her out as an "accountant"

"I'm being oppressed by not being allowed to advertise my coochie on an app for teenagers!"

"I'm being oppressed by not being allowed to stay in the porn industry past a certain age!"

That is a ROUGH 22.
 

Devyn

True & Honest Fan
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"I'm sooo lucky I have to fuck a creepy old man for a car! Get jealous bitches!"
The thought of selling myself for anything--even in exchange for food, shelter or water if I was on the verge of death--makes me feel sick.
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Not all of us.
I personally would rather just kill myself if it ever got to that level of desperation. These young women (and men) who fuck for what amount to status symbol trinkets completely baffle me, it's like they're a different species altogether.
 
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NoReturn

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The thought of selling myself for anything--even in exchange for food, shelter or water if I was on the verge of death--makes me feel sick.
I personally would rather just kill myself if it ever got to that level of desperation. These young women (and men) who fuck for what amount to status symbol trinkets completely baffle me, it's like they're a different species altogether.
There's also this weird "sex worker" superiority complex too. Like "At least I don't have to scrub toilets!" like fucking a stinky old guy with hygiene issues is somehow preferable to pushing a vacuum around an office building at night while listening to podcasts.
 

IAmNotAlpharius

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There's also this weird "sex worker" superiority complex too. Like "At least I don't have to scrub toilets!" like fucking a stinky old guy with hygiene issues is somehow preferable to pushing a vacuum around an office building at night while listening to podcasts.
Shows their priorities and only solidifies their status as a useless slut.
 

NoReturn

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So, New York just decriminalized prostitution.
Manhattan to Stop Prosecuting Prostitution, Part of Nationwide Shift
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Full text:
The district attorney, Cyrus R. Vance Jr., moved to dismiss thousands of cases dating back decades, amid a growing movement to change the criminal justice system’s approach to prostitution.
April 21, 2021

The Manhattan district attorney’s office announced Wednesday that it would no longer prosecute prostitution and unlicensed massage, putting the weight of one of the most high-profile law enforcement offices in the United States behind the growing movement to change the criminal justice system’s approach to sex work.

The district attorney, Cyrus R. Vance Jr., asked a judge on Wednesday morning to dismiss 914 open cases involving prostitution and unlicensed massage, along with 5,080 cases in which the charge was loitering for the purposes of prostitution.

The law that made the latter charge a crime, which had become known as the “walking while trans” law, was repealed by New York State in February.

The announcement represents a substantive shift in the Manhattan district attorney’s approach to prostitution. Many of the cases Mr. Vance moved to dismiss dated to the 1970s and 1980s, when New York waged a war against prostitution in an effort to clean up its image as a center of iniquity and vice.

“Over the last decade we’ve learned from those with lived experience, and from our own experience on the ground: Criminally prosecuting prostitution does not make us safer, and too often, achieves the opposite result by further marginalizing vulnerable New Yorkers,” Mr. Vance said in a statement.

The office will continue to prosecute other crimes related to prostitution, including patronizing sex workers, promoting prostitution and sex trafficking, and said that its policy would not stop it from bringing other charges that stem from prostitution-related arrests.

That means, in effect, that the office will continue to prosecute pimps and sex traffickers, as well as people who pay for sex, continuing to fight those who exploit or otherwise profit from prostitution without punishing the people who for decades have borne the brunt of law enforcement’s attention.

Manhattan will join Baltimore, Philadelphia and other jurisdictions that have declined to prosecute sex workers. Brooklyn also does not prosecute people arrested for prostitution, but instead refers them to social services before they are compelled to appear in court — unless the district attorney’s office there is unable to reach them.

The Brooklyn district attorney, Eric Gonzalez, in January moved to dismiss hundreds of open cases related to prostitution and loitering, and said that he would eventually ask that more than a thousand be dismissed. The Queens and Bronx district attorneys followed in March, moving to dismiss hundreds of prostitution-related cases.

Prosecutions for sex work had already been dropping dramatically over the past decade, said Abigail Swenstein, a staff attorney with the Legal Aid Society’s Exploitation Intervention Project, with occasional spikes, such as one during 2014 when the Super Bowl was held at MetLife Stadium, just outside the city.

She added that the vast majority of her clients over the last two years had been women arrested in massage parlors.

Ms. Swenstein said that Mr. Vance’s move would likely “have reverberations for sex workers and trafficking survivors well outside of New York City,” and that it would make them feel “less stigmatized.” She commended the district attorney for having formulated the policy after talking to sex workers and others with relevant experience.

Mr. Vance’s office had been in the practice of dismissing prostitution cases after sending those charged to mandatory counseling sessions. Going forward, Mr. Vance’s statement said, such counseling sessions would be provided only on a voluntary basis.

Sex workers have been fighting for decriminalization for decades. But the 2019 formation of Decrim NY, a coalition of organizations that support full decriminalization and have worked to lobby lawmakers, represented a turning point for the movement.

In New York City, those calls have grown louder. Last month, Mayor Bill de Blasio and his wife, Chirlane McCray, called on the state to end criminal penalties for sex workers.

“The communities hit hardest by the continued criminalization of sex work and human trafficking are overwhelmingly L.G.B.T.Q., they are people of color, and they are undocumented immigrants,” Ms. McCray said at the time. “Sex work is a means of survival for many in these marginalized groups.”

Declining to prosecute prostitution and other related crimes has also been a focus of the candidates to replace Mr. Vance, who announced in March that he would not run for re-election. The majority have said that they would halt the prosecutions if elected.

Eliza Orlins, a candidate for the office and a former public defender, has been particularly vocal, releasing a comprehensive policy paper on the subject in which she said that she would fight to make it legal in New York to buy and sell consensual sex. Whether to prosecute those who patronize prostitutes has been a subject of consistent debate among feminist organizations.

In an interview on Wednesday, Ms. Orlins said that she was happy to see the shift, but that it had taken too long and that, in continuing to prosecute those who patronize sex workers, the office had not gone far enough.

“Am I glad that someone in a position as powerful as the Manhattan district attorney’s office is finally speaking out and saying that we shouldn’t be prosecuting people for engaging in their jobs? Of course I’m glad,” she said. “But do I think that he deserves to be held out as heroic by the movement when he has not done enough and acted quickly enough? No.”

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Manhattan will stop prosecuting sex workers, marking 'monumental' step for trans advocates
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Transgender advocates in New York are celebrating after the Manhattan District Attorney’s Office announced it will no longer prosecute sex workers.

“Over the last decade we’ve learned from those with lived experience, and from our own experience on the ground: criminally prosecuting prostitution does not make us safer, and too often, achieves the opposite result by further marginalizing vulnerable New Yorkers,” Manhattan District Attorney Cyrus Vance Jr. said Wednesday in a statement.

The DA also announced approximately 6,000 prostitution-related open cases will be dismissed, including 900 cases dating back to the 1970s.

Cecilia Gentili, founder of Transgender Equity Consulting, in the statement called the decision “one of the most significant steps taken Nationally in the effort to stop criminalizing sex work.”

“This resolute action to actively decriminalize sex workers is the kind of change our community has been hoping for, advocating for, for decades,” Gentili said.

Trans people — especially trans women of color — are more likely to engage in sex work: The 2015 National Transgender Discrimination Survey found nearly 11 percent of transgender Americans reported having participated in the sex trade, including almost 40 percent of Black respondents and 33 percent of Latinos.

“For many transgender people, the sex trade can offer greater autonomy and financial stability compared to more traditional workplaces, with few barriers to entry,” the report read. “However, economic insecurity and material deprivation can increase one’s vulnerability to harm and decrease the ability to make self-determined choices.”

Many turned to it after facing rejection, discrimination and harassment in the traditional workforce.

Of the trans sex workers surveyed, almost 70 percent reported losing out on a promotion, being fired or facing other negative workplace outcomes as a result of their gender identity. Those who lost a job due to anti-trans discrimination were nearly three times as likely to engage in the sex trade, the survey found.

Vance described the decision to end prosecutions as an outgrowth of the office’s efforts to connect individuals arrested for prostitution with social services rather than pursue criminal charges.

“Now, we will decline to prosecute these arrests outright, providing services and support solely on a voluntary basis,” he said in the statement.

Vance called the backlog of cases, many going back decades, “a relic from a different New York, and a very real burden for the person who carries the conviction or bench warrant.”

The news comes just months after the New York Legislature repealed a law prohibiting loitering for the purpose of prostitution that critics say was disproportionately enforced against transgender women of color.

More than 5,000 of the cases dismissed this week were related to that statute, nicknamed the “walking while trans” ban.

“When you are an undocumented trans sex worker, having an arrest on your record can impact your efforts at immigration,” said Bianey Garcia, an advocate with the grassroots social justice group Make the Road New York. “It can hurt your chances at getting a job or a place to live.”

Garcia, a former sex worker, said the district attorney’s announcement “is proof the organizing we’re doing, the speaking out — it’s working.”

Vance’s office will continue to prosecute other crimes related to prostitution, including sex trafficking, patronizing sex workers and promoting prostitution, The New York Times reported.

Manhattan joins Baltimore, Philadelphia, San Francisco and other jurisdictions that decline to prosecute sex workers.

Earlier this year, District Attorneys in Brooklyn, Queens and the Bronx also moved to dismiss all outstanding prostitution and loitering-related cases, indicating they will no longer prosecute such charges.

In the late 1990s and early 2000s, trans activist and filmmaker Kristen Lovell was a sex worker in New York City’s Meatpacking District. She called the decision to stop prosecuting “monumental” for the trans community.

“Now, in the land of trans bans, we don’t have to prosecute people for trying to make a living,” she said.

Lovell said she was arrested dozens of times under the repealed “walking while trans” law.

“I’d just get off the subway and I’d be in cuffs,” she said. “We couldn’t even congregate on Christopher Street, an area that has historically been a safe space for our community. ... Being a Black trans woman, you’d be chased out of the neighborhood.”

Police frequently assume transgender women — particularly trans women of color — are engaging in prostitution, according to the 2015 U.S. Transgender Survey, which found a third of Black trans women and 30 percent of multiracial women said an officer had assumed they were sex workers.

“We’ve seen trans people call the police and the first question they’re asked is, ‘What are you doing here? Why are you dressed like that?’ instead of finding out what help they need,” Garcia said. “You just survived a crime, and they’re profiling you.”

The U.S. Transgender Survey also found nearly 9 out of 10 respondents who interacted with the police either while doing sex work or being incorrectly accused of being sex workers reported being harassed, attacked or sexually assaulted by law enforcement.

In a report on violence against the trans community, the National Center for Transgender Equality called police abuse and dangerous conditions fostered by criminalization “the primary threat to the safety of sex workers.”

But ending prosecutions is just the start of repairing the relationship police have with the trans community, Lovell said.

“Trust has to be earned,” she said. “It’s going to take a while to build that. They need to reimagine policing.”

Like others, Lovell supports decriminalizing sex work nationwide. But she also wants more funding to enable trans women to leave the industry.

“For those who want to get out, there needs to be more job training, more mental health services,” she said. “And for those comfortable doing the work, it shouldn’t be demonized. It’s a job like any other.”
 

Hoi Polloi

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How do they always manage to make it all about troons :story:

Seriously though, this reads like they're adopting the Nordic model where prostitutes aren't committing a crime but johns are, which has been effective at reducing prostitution and trafficking in countries where it's been implemented. Much more than full legalisation or decriminalisation ever has, in countries like New Zealand and Germany trafficking increased drastically and pimps and gangs can hide behind a veneer of legality.
 

KifflomKween

Ay up mi cow
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Stem thots. I get the feeling that in a few years we'll be seeing a lot of these.
If you are a female in stem and an older colleage or superior is attracted to you your male peers will be making jokes. If you reciprocate, the younger guys will feel bad and exclude you.
Besides nothing says quality like being an older men who dates younger women.

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Kujo Jotaro

Every Man Dies
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"But I have money! What do you mean I need to spend the money?!"

Have some TikToks
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This is in response to someone calling her out as an "accountant"
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"I'm being oppressed by not being allowed to advertise my coochie on an app for teenagers!"
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"I'm being oppressed by not being allowed to stay in the porn industry past a certain age!"
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That is a ROUGH 22.
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22 going on 35, "I know I wont want to take care of my kids so I need to use my stripper money to pay for the future nanny"
 

Devyn

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Stem thots. I get the feeling that in a few years we'll be seeing a lot of these.
If you are a female in stem and an older colleage or superior is attracted to you your male peers will be making jokes. If you reciprocate, the younger guys will feel bad and exclude you.
Besides nothing says quality like being an older men who dates younger women.


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"it's great"
"It's so great !"
"it's great"
"it feels great"

Lol this bitch is trying so hard to convince herself that what she does isn't completely degrading, it's like her brain shorted out and is stuck in a loop of this one bullshit affirmation
 

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